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The site is at http://www.dccc.org/ Now I am going to give my opinion.
Rush fans pummel Democrat website
Petition rallying opposition to talk radio icon backfires
Rush Limbaugh
A petition by the Democratic National Congressional Committee critical of Rush Limbaugh is backfiring as supporters of the talk radio icon pummel the party website with their own views.
Hundreds of people have signed the petition, which is introduced with the request to "Stand strong against Rush Limbaugh's Attacks – sign our petition, telling Rush what you think of his attacks on President Obama."
But contributors to the comment section of the petition, with few exceptions, have endorsed Limbaugh and his expressed desire for the failure of Obama's policies.
"Why [are] the public servants of the people that were elected by the people attacking a private citizen? Who is next - me?" said one post. "This is all the more reason TO LISTEN to RUSH LIMBAUGH. I HOPE OBAMA'S POLICIES FAIL TOO."
Another contributor wrote: "I also hope this president fails, along with the current Congress. Many of the policies in the making are socialist. Creating a class of Americans dependent on the government is weakening this country and making it vulnerable to attack. We need fewer taxes, fewer regulations, and a lot less government intervention. I support Rush Limbaugh and his right to free speech. He loves this country and wants to keep it strong and a force for good. You seem to want the exact opposite."
The petition cites Limbaugh's recent statement that he hopes Obama fails, but many commenters on the Democrat website point out the radio host has explained he was taken out of context.
"Not that any of you Dems care but this is the rest of what Rush said," said one contributor.
"We're going to have to wait to see what he does. Now if he turns out to be a Reagan, if he adds Reagan to his recipe of FDR and Lincoln – and if he does cut some taxes – if he does not eliminate the Bush tax cuts, I would call that success. So yes, I would hope he would succeed if he acts like Reagan. But if he's going to do FDR – if he's going to do The New New Deal all over, which we will call here The Raw Deal – why would I want him to succeed? Look, he's my president. The fact that he is historic is irrelevant to me now. It matters not at all. If he is going to implement a far-left agenda… Look, I think it's already decided: a $2 trillion in stimulus? The growth of government? I think the intent here is to create as many dependant Americans as possible looking to government for their hope and salvation. If he gets nationalized health care, I mean, it's over, Sean. We're never going to roll that back. That's the end of America as we have known it, because that's then going to set the stage for everything being government owned, operated, or provided. Why would I want that to succeed? I don't believe in that. I know that's not how this country is going to be great in the future; it's not what made this country great. So I shamelessly say, 'No! I want him to fail.' If his agenda is a far-left collectivism – some people say socialism – as a conservative heartfelt, deeply, why would I want socialism to succeed?"
Said another, "I know… it's crazy that a conservative Republican would want liberal Democrats to fail. WEIRD."
Among the other comments responding to the Democrats' request for condemnation of Limbaugh:
Should I stay tuned to this blog in the future for information on the Reeducation Camps?
Did any liberals stand up and say 'I hope George Bush succeeds with his conservative agenda'?
The context is, if President Obama insists on turning this country into a Marxist, Socialist, Communist State, then those of us who believe in Capitalism, Freedom, Liberty, Justice, and the Constitution of the United States of America DO hope his attempts to CHANGE this country fail.
Rush on!
"Barry Soetoro who was adopted by his Indonesian stepfather is not a U.S. citizen and, if he wasn't coddled by the liberal media, his status as an illegal foreign agent would be known today. I too hope he fails because B. Hussein Obama has lied to this country.
I also hope Obama fails. I hope he fails if he continues the path towards nationalization. I hope he fails if he continues the path towards the continued destruction of our personal liberties. I hope he fails if he continues to move towards implementing socialist policies which serve to further weaken this great country. If Obama chooses to uphold the constitution, fight for personal liberties and work against the general entitlement mindset that has and is becoming so commonplace amongst Americans then I hope he succeeds. Limbaugh was exactly right.
Hey, you Socialist Democrats 57 million of us didn't vote for Mr. Obama, and as far as I know he hasn't signed an Executive Order revoking our First Amendment Rights! So, Rush and every one else has a right to voice their opinion and most especially when we don't agree with you and Obama’s socialist policies. You Democrats don't want to just be in charge you want to dictate and dominate everyone in the country can you say Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro.
DITTO RUSH. I too hope Obama’s socialists policies fail.
Silence Rush??? Au contraire!!!! And listen to a thing that spews forth utterances like, 'I won! I'm the President!'?"
Where was the DCCC when Bush was being called a killer/Nazi/etc? I guess no one cared when liberals wanted Bush to fail. This site is a joke and so is the DCCC!
So the Dems spent 8 years trashing Bush and openly wishing his policies would fail. Now that Obama is in office, they go after everyone that does not bow at the very sound of his voice.
Rush is right, folks. He is thoughtful, brilliant, forward-thinking, and articulate. I hope Obama’s plans fail, too. If I wanted to live in a socialist country, I would move to one.
In rare support for the Democrats' position, one participant wrote: "Some of the people responses on this blog is just as idiotic as Rush, I mean what part of crisis do they not understand?"
Limbaugh addressed the issue on his program.
"They have an online petition at the DCCC website that has a 19-second clip of me saying I hope Obama fails," he said. "It's taken totally out of context and it's presented as, 'Tell Rush Limbaugh what you think! Here's a message and hit the submit button, and we will send it to Rush.' So it's a flood-my-inbox kind of campaign, and on my website last night, we linked to their home page where you can send the DCCC a message yourself. So we did a reverse petition last night at RushLimbaugh.com. It's still up there. So you go to RushLimbaugh.com, the reverse petition sends them a message from you, and it's been going gangbusters all night."
He also explained why he doesn't want Obama's agenda to succeed.
"I've been listening to Barack Obama for a year-and-a-half. I know what his politics are. I know what his plans are, as he has stated them. I don't want them to succeed," he said. "Look, what he's talking about is the absorption of as much of the private sector by the US government as possible, from the banking business, to the mortgage industry, the automobile business, to health care. I do not want the government in charge of all of these things. I don't want this to work.
"What's new, what is unfair about my saying I hope liberalism fails? Liberalism is our problem. Liberalism is what's gotten us dangerously close to the precipice here. Why do I want more of it? I don't care what the Drive-By story is. I would be honored if the Drive-By Media headlined me all day long: 'Limbaugh: I Hope Obama Fails.' Somebody's gotta say it," he said.
Ten days ago, WND editor and founder Joseph Farah issued a similar call regarding Obama, based on biblical values.
"I want Obama to fail because his agenda is 100 percent at odds with God's. Pretending it is not simply makes a mockery of God's straightforward Commandments," he wrote.
"So you will not see me joining in the ritual of affirming Obama and his mission in public or private prayer this week – or any other week. Instead, I uphold the words of Jesus in Matthew 15:14: 'Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.' And I take warning from Isaiah 9:16: 'For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed,'" said Farah.
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What's his name certainly is doing an effective job of making Limbaugh more popular.
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The best way to marginalize an idiot is to ignore him/her.
The Democrats AND Republicans need to learn this.
(Yes, I went there, Limbaugh IS an idiot.)
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There is nothing unique in calling him an idiot. I hear "______ is an idiot" all the time about any particular personality on either side of the aisle. Some call in to the shows. Everyone has their opinion, but not everyone can get their own radio show. :)
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Did Barry get a check from Rush for all the advertising?
Its gotta be millions worth of publicity, I think Obama
is playing Rush,
OOOOH everyone look at this bad Rush and not what I'm doing what I'm doing behind the curtain
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Limbaugh may be an idiot, but I'd love to have his paycheck... ;)
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Yep, Limbaugh is an idiot, but he's not wrong on this one.
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BHO is smart enough to realize that Rush is de facto President of The Other 150 Million.
Fool? Hardly. Neither of them.
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BHO is smart enough to realize that Rush is de facto President of The Other 150 Million.
Fool? Hardly. Neither of them.
Rush has nothing to lose from this either. Any time he gets more attention, he gets more money. If he wins a battle it can feed his ego and he can gloat, if he loses he can play the victim and rally his supporters around him. I'm not sure what Obama has to gain from this supposed conflict though - he could be trying to fracture the GOP but they seem more united if anything. Personally I think Obama just mentioned Limbaugh in passing and Rush caught it and is milking it for every cent he can and then some.
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This ain't about the money. Rush is positioning himself as a political figure, an political adversary to the current administration. He's going to use it to fight the fairness doctrine when it comes around. He'll claim the fairness doctrine represents political oppression and retaliation, not just a restriction on his ability to be a broadcaster or to run his business.
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Barack Hussein Obama, the newly-inaugurated President of the United States, Commander-in-Chief of the most powerful military force the world has ever known, is not facing down the President of Iran, one of the terrorists who invaded the US Embassy in Tehran. He is not confronting Kim Jong-Il, dictator of the nuclear-armed state of North Korea; he isn't engaging with Vladimir Putin, who wants to rebuild a new Soviet Empire.
No, he's waging verbal jihad . . . AGAINST A TALK SHOW HOST!!
AND THE TALK SHOW HOST IS WINNING!
What a way to enlarge your enemy . . . and diminish yourself.
I love it. =D
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No, he's waging verbal jihad . . . AGAINST A TALK SHOW HOST!!
Says who? Limbaugh says so because it get's him attention. Obama mentioned Limbaugh once in passing and Rush is running with it. He's doing a great job turning it into a story and this DCCC is helping him - but it's not Obama that's waging a war.
Unless I missed some news stories of Obama attacking Limbaugh?
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This ain't about the money. Rush is positioning himself as a political figure, an political adversary to the current administration. He's going to use it to fight the fairness doctrine when it comes around. He'll claim the fairness doctrine represents political oppression and retaliation, not just a restriction on his ability to be a broadcaster or to run his business.
He was pretty much a political figure during the Clinton years too. I figured when Obama got elected, Rush was going to be back to what he was in the 1990's.
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That's right on.
Barack wrangles with Rush instead of our real enemies for the same reason that feminists march in Berkeley and not in Riyadh or Teheran.
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He's going to use it to fight the fairness doctrine when it comes around. He'll claim the fairness doctrine represents political oppression and retaliation, not just a restriction on his ability to be a broadcaster or to run his business.
The Fairness Doctrine is all about silencing the Conservative radio voice. The way it will silence them on the air, if passed, is by REQUIREING that there be a rebuttal to everything that the radio broadcasters says that may be controversial.
For some reason, I don't know why, the powers to be thinking that conservative talk radio is unjustly shutting out the Liberal radio. The trouble that Liberal radio has putting shows on is simply that not very many listen to them, and advertisers won't buy time on their shows. It is still a free market, at this time.
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I see Rush becoming a political contender if the Fairness Doctrine actually becomes reality.
Hopefully a Senator from FL.
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The way it will silence them on the air, if passed, is by REQUIREING that there be a rebuttal to everything that the radio broadcasters says that may be controversial.
That sounds terrible. Care to link to the bill that's proposing this?
All this sounds even more speculative than the AWB that hasn't been proposed. The only difference is that it's Limbaugh propagating it and not the people selling hicap mags for twice as much. Seems to be the same idea though.
I see Rush becoming a political contender if the Fairness Doctrine actually becomes reality.
I agree. He has more to gain from a Fairness Doctrine than just about anyone. Look how much attention he gets just from the fear of it being proposed.
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Says who? Limbaugh says so because it get's him attention. Obama mentioned Limbaugh once in passing and Rush is running with it. He's doing a great job turning it into a story and this DCCC is helping him - but it's not Obama that's waging a war.
Unless I missed some news stories of Obama attacking Limbaugh?
Obama ragged on Sean Hannity a number of times during the campaign, which is about the same thing. I figured he had learned from Howard Dean, that railing against Limbaugh is not helpful, but apparently not.
And if you care to look at the, um, thread title, it's not so much Obama that is attacking Rush, as the DCCC, who have a petition out against him. Which doesn't cost Rush any sleep, but it does qualify as an attack.
As for Rush's need for attention, whatever. He obviously likes to get into the political discussion. I guess you can try to twist that into some kind of personal moral failing if it helps you with your own personal issues.
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Obama ragged on Sean Hannity a number of times during the campaign
I missed those apparently - searching on google only gets me youtube of Obama appearing on Hannity. Any links would be appreciated.
And if you care to look at the, um, thread title, it's not so much Obama that is attacking Rush, as the DCCC, who have a petition out against him.
I realize that, which is why I specifically mentioned the DCCC as helping Rush gain attention. If you'll notice the post I quoted, it framed it as a battle between Obama and Limbaugh, which I don't believe exists.
I guess you can try to twist that into some kind of personal moral failing if it helps you with your own personal issues.
I guess I could but I don't believe I have.
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Sometimes I don't understand the tendency of some of the people at any one time to label media personalities as idiots or whatever. No matter who is saying something or what they are saying, some part of the crowd will never like it. If George Washington came back to life and did interviews, there would be those here and elsewhere who thought he was an idiot for whatever reason. :)
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I missed those apparently - searching on google only gets me youtube of Obama appearing on Hannity. Any links would be appreciated.
Listen to the first two or three minutes of Sean Hannity's first (or is it second?) hour. He has a compilation of 'em.
If George Washington came back to life and did interviews, there would be those here and elsewhere who thought he was an idiot for whatever reason.
If George Washington was on youtube, what would they say?
"He looks like Tony the Tiger XD"
"Old man go get your Viagra and STFU"
"That wig is sooo gay"
"Wat r u liek 100 lol"
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I pretty much hate all talk radio talking heads.
I have a nagging respect for Sean Hannity on the right, and Thom Hartmann on the left
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Obama never really seemed to run against McCain, a lot of the campaign
was running against Bush, Rush and Hannity.
I guess he still is, Rush/Hannity is an easier softer target than the real enemies of the USA.
The left actually hates the USA more then they hate Irans leadership
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The left actually hates the USA more then they hate Irans leadership
I love how people can say this with a straight face.
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I love how people can say this with a straight face.
Why? It's true? I have MET leftists who totally excuse the fact that Iran executes gays, even. They've tried to show me slideshows of how peaceful Iranians are and how horrible we are to want to attack them.
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I have a nagging respect for Sean Hannity on the right
Respect him for what? Having the best hair? Being the biggest tool? ??? I'm just stunned that anyone could call Limbaugh an idiot, yet respect a dim-wit like Hannity.
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I see Rush becoming a political contender if the Fairness Doctrine actually becomes reality.
Hopefully a Senator from FL.
Nah, he'll just move to internet distribution. The mechanisms are already in place with the podcasting that he's already doing, and the way has already been pioneered, mostly notably by MST3K having morphed into RiffTrax.
The Fairness Doctrine will do nothing more than put a lot of radio stations out of business and taking jobs with them, both direct and indirect. GG Washington. Again.
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Rush wouldn't take the paycut or the restrictions of a Senate seat.....I'd sooner bet him to take over the RNC and run things behind the scenes & still stay behind the mike....
....but then, Glenn Beck has been running circles around Rush lately. If Obama goes after him, the war is on.... :cool:
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....but then, Glenn Beck has been running circles around Rush lately. If Obama goes after him, the war is on....
Lou Dobbs, CNN and HLN has been saying a lot lately, also. Can you believe that CNN is still keeping Lou on there.
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....but then, Glenn Beck has been running circles around Rush lately.
Like a toddler running around crazy, while the adult in the room stands still?
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Like a toddler running around crazy, while the adult in the room stands still?
As the last election showed....sometimes crazy works.... =D
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I love how people can say this with a straight face.
Pretty easy with Noam Chomsky, Howard Zinn, and their disciples are making the case for it.
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Respect him for what? Having the best hair? Being the biggest tool? ??? I'm just stunned that anyone could call Limbaugh an idiot, yet respect a dim-wit like Hannity.
Oh, dont get me wrong, not because of the content, but delivery.
He's very likable while being a twerp.
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Like a toddler running around crazy, while the adult in the room stands still?
Being the "adult" isn't necessarily a good thing. I dislike both Beck and Rush, but Beck > Rush. Slightly.
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Y'know, maybe there is something to 'reverse psycology' after all. Didn't Zero say some things about guns and gun owners that led to one of (if not THE) biggest gun-run in history? Now he's come out against El Rushbo and see what has happened.
I wonder if we could trick him into saying something derogatory about capitalism or patriotism or ...
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I wonder if we could trick him into saying something derogatory about capitalism or patriotism or ...
We need to trick Obama to do that? :angel:
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I rather enjoy listening/watching Beck and Hannity. I tune in Rush from time to time as well. Guess I'm an oddball.
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I rather enjoy listening/watching Beck and Hannity. I tune in Rush from time to time as well. Guess I'm an oddball.
That's not too odd.
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Being the "adult" isn't necessarily a good thing. I dislike both Beck and Rush, but Beck > Rush. Slightly.
I don't see how you can make a comparison. Rush actually engages in political analysis and commentary, while Beck - well, what does Beck do? I usually can't take enough of his fuzzy rambling to actually stick around and see if he has a point. That's when he's not trying to change my life with his Christmas sweatshirt or whatever.
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I'm puzzled why the president took Limbaugh on . . . . now. I can see him doing so when the pieces are in place but now seems a little early. One possibility is his stimulus bill bill may be in trouble. By trouble I mean no republican support. Obama will get the bill passed but if there is no republican support he can't claim bipartisanship. In other words Obama get the turkey hung around his neck. In any case the battle was going to break out at some point. I just wonder if Obama slipped up with his comments. Not out of the question since he is quite limited in his expressiveness when off the prompter.
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I don't see how you can make a comparison. Rush actually engages in political analysis and commentary, while Beck - well, what does Beck do? I usually can't take enough of his fuzzy rambling to actually stick around and see if he has a point. That's when he's not trying to change my life with his Christmas sweatshirt or whatever.
Beck can be pretty funny sometimes. In fact, he's downright hilarious at times. But I agree, Limbaugh knows politics better than anyone else in media. His political commentary is far more insightful than Beck's, or just about anyone else's.
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I'm puzzled why the president took Limbaugh on . . . . now. I can see him doing so when the pieces are in place but now seems a little early. One possibility is his stimulus bill bill may be in trouble. By trouble I mean no republican support. Obama will get the bill passed but if there is no republican support he can't claim bipartisanship. In other words Obama get the turkey hung around his neck. In any case the battle was going to break out at some point. I just wonder if Obama slipped up with his comments. Not out of the question since he is quite limited in his expressiveness when off the prompter.
Rookie mistake is my guess. Obama has no particular skill for political strategy.
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I'd have to agree with that. Politicians taking on a media personality with 15 uncensored hours a week to state their case is not smart. On the other hand, the rest of the media is focused on him and not any Congressional Republicans.
I actually listen to Medved more lately since I can listen to the internet radio at work in the late afternoon more often. He actually interviews some leading leftists on his show and actually debates people who disagree rather than just talk over them. When asked questions, he has read the book and states facts much better than most others. His occasional "conspiracy day" shows are really great.
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An interview with Rush, about the Democratic ads that are running against Limbaugh in some states.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCdoeynljb0
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I don't see how you can make a comparison. Rush actually engages in political analysis and commentary, while Beck - well, what does Beck do?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QPyQw9_eMs
This is a typical Rush moment, I take it? He's seriously comparing people who lost their jobs to people are killed?
e actually interviews some leading leftists on his show and actually debates people who disagree rather than just talk over them.
It's people to his right that Medved truly hates.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QPyQw9_eMs
This is a typical Rush moment, I take it? He's seriously comparing people who lost their jobs to people are killed?
Typical Rush brilliance, yes. But no, he didn't make the comparison you suggest. He's talking about media coverage, not making a direct comparison between lost jobs and war dead. An even more apt comment that he made was, "I support the President [Obama], I just don't support his policies." :lol:
As a rule of thumb, if you don't like something Rush said, it probably means it went over your head. That's not to say I agree with every single thing he says, but it's a good rule of thumb.
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OMG!
Glen Beck is better than electricity and sliced bread!
He will listen to criticism and change his opinion, unlike most others doing the same job he does.
He used to be pretty lukewarm when it came to RKBA but he researched it after his fans sent in their comments, and now he is one of the few visible people out there for our side.
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I love how people can say this with a straight face.
when Mahmoud Ahmadinejad came to speak at Columbia, he was treated with respect and got applauded, GW wouldn't have gotten that, the minutemen were attacked.
I was a left wing protester for longer then I have been nominally conservative, I lived with the left and was part of the left.
They have an insane hatred of the country that protects their right to be left wing kooks.
I remember demonstrations calling for the death of the hostages during the Iran Carter fiasco, the left used to fly the Viet cong flag during that conflict.
I have seen so many demo's here in San Francisco,yup, they really hate the USA and would rather the USA destroyed
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It's people to his right that Medved truly hates.
QFT
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QPyQw9_eMs
This is a typical Rush moment, I take it? He's seriously comparing people who lost their jobs to people are killed?
No. It's called satire.
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Rush's style takes some time to get used to. His humor especially takes a while to grasp. His jokes always somehow manage to make a clever point, while at the same time torquing off everyone who doesn't take the time to understand or think it through (that would include lefties by default). As a result you get regular listeners who catch the full insight of the joke and think he's brilliant for it. You also get a whole lot of screaming loons who say he's an idiot or a bigot or whatever, because they get caught up in the surface meaning and never manage to see all the way through to the real point.
I think fistful is right. If you think one of Limbaugh's shticks is idiotic, chances are the joke's on you for not catching the man's real point.