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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Ben on December 09, 2011, 10:18:20 AM
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Apparently, according to the story, the Smart pickup will be introduced for those who don't think the Smart car is manly enough and who want something more utilitarian. What will the Smart pickup do? It will carry two Smart bicycles in the back.
Call me when it can haul a yard of gravel.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/09/smart-to-unveil-tiny-for-us-electric-pickup-at-north-american-in/
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I'd still like to see a Ranger/S-10 size pickup with a 2.x liter turbodiesel around 150hp and 250ft-lbs. Something like that might even get close to 30mpg.
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No thank you. Might as well buy an old CJ-8 or Suburu Brat.
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Wonder if the pickup will go airborne and spin wildly in a collision the way the little clown car did in the insurance institute's tests . . .
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that could be a fun weekend escape vehicle, or a way to commute to within a cities bicycle range and then park for free on the edge
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I want a full-sized half ton pickup with a supercharged 3 liter diesel engine. I don't think a normally-aspirated 3.5 to 3.8 liter would be strong enough, but I could be mistaken. It needs to be able to haul a yard of gravel or load of firewood, or pull a small boat or trailer, or cruise 75 mph down the highway. Doesn't need to be able to do all those things at the same time.
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That vehicle in no way meets any definition of pickup truck I have ever come across. It doesn't even have a bed right? Just the back in contoured with a super proprietary bike rack?
Following that, wouldn't it be more in the same market space as say a Geo Tracker (but less versatile) rather than any sort of vehicle with a pickup bed?
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Looks like a clown car giving birth to its love children sired by the clown's unicycle.
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I'd still like to see a Ranger/S-10 size pickup with a 2.x liter turbodiesel around 150hp and 250ft-lbs. Something like that might even get close to 30mpg.
Here you go (http://www.toyota.co.uk/cgi-bin/toyota/bv/generic_editorial.jsp?navRoot=toyota_1024_root&CampaignID=&fullwidth=true&noLeftMenu=true&forceText=%3Cnone%3E&edname=CC2-Hilux-specification&zone=Zone+NG+Hilux&id=CC2-Hilux-specification) 252ft/lbs and 38mpg. Not turbo'd though. Sadly getting one into this country could prove expensive. Thank the EPA for the inability to get good small diesels here.
I've heard rumors that the F150 might get a small eco-boost diesel in the next couple years. That'd be awesome.
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So you can't even get a normal bicycle into it. The back is built only for the Smart bicycles. FAIL, if you wanted to attract the bicycling community.
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Apparently, according to the story, the Smart pickup will be introduced for those who don't think the Smart car is manly enough and who want something more utilitarian. What will the Smart pickup do? It will carry two Smart bicycles in the back.
Call me when it can haul a yard of gravel.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/09/smart-to-unveil-tiny-for-us-electric-pickup-at-north-american-in/
A growed up 4 wheeler.
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Here you go (http://www.toyota.co.uk/cgi-bin/toyota/bv/generic_editorial.jsp?navRoot=toyota_1024_root&CampaignID=&fullwidth=true&noLeftMenu=true&forceText=%3Cnone%3E&edname=CC2-Hilux-specification&zone=Zone+NG+Hilux&id=CC2-Hilux-specification) 252ft/lbs and 38mpg. Not turbo'd though. Sadly getting one into this country could prove expensive. Thank the EPA for the inability to get good small diesels here.
I've heard rumors that the F150 might get a small eco-boost diesel in the next couple years. That'd be awesome.
I want me a nice 1/2 ton turbo diesel.
A few years back, both GM & Ford were looking at such, but they decided on diesels that were too large, in the 4.5L range. 3.0-3.5L is the sweet spot.
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I want me a nice 1/2 ton turbo diesel.
A few years back, both GM & Ford were looking at such, but they decided on diesels that were too large, in the 4.5L range. 3.0-3.5L is the sweet spot.
That's just it - I may pull heavy trailers from time to time, but I don't need to go up hills at 70 mph.
That's what passing lanes are for :lol:
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And THAT is why the people who inhabit Germany will always be inferior to us- they cannot understand the whole concept of a 'pickup truck.'
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That's gheyer than two boys *expletive deleted*ing.
I'd still like to see a Ranger/S-10 size pickup with a 2.x liter turbodiesel around 150hp and 250ft-lbs. Something like that might even get close to 30mpg.
It makes so much sense, would be quite efficient, and would be actually useful...so the EPA says "*expletive deleted*ck you, you can't have it!"...which is why we don't get the high MPG diesels that the Europeans have.
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That's gheyer than two boys *expletive deleted*ing.
It makes so much sense, would be quite efficient, and would be actually useful...so the EPA says "*expletive deleted* you, you can't have it!"...which is why we don't get the high MPG diesels that the Europeans have.
The EPA doesn't want us to have high mpg vehicles. The EPA wants us to walk :mad:
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Wonder if the pickup will go airborne and spin wildly in a collision the way the little clown car did in the insurance institute's tests . . .
Are there youtube videos of this?
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That's gheyer than two boys *expletive deleted*ing.
It makes so much sense, would be quite efficient, and would be actually useful...so the EPA says "*expletive deleted* you, you can't have it!"...which is why we don't get the high MPG diesels that the Europeans have.
Ron Paul would dismantle the EPA. [popcorn]
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Here you go (http://www.toyota.co.uk/cgi-bin/toyota/bv/generic_editorial.jsp?navRoot=toyota_1024_root&CampaignID=&fullwidth=true&noLeftMenu=true&forceText=%3Cnone%3E&edname=CC2-Hilux-specification&zone=Zone+NG+Hilux&id=CC2-Hilux-specification) 252ft/lbs and 38mpg. Not turbo'd though. Sadly getting one into this country could prove expensive. Thank the EPA for the inability to get good small diesels here.
I've heard rumors that the F150 might get a small eco-boost diesel in the next couple years. That'd be awesome.
Mahindra almost brought one over, and I've heard those same rumors about the F-150 for about 5 years now since they first announced plans for the 2009 model year. I'll believe it when I see it.
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I had some friends that took old 20/30's vintage cars, cut off the tops and shortened the bodies and frames so the rear wheels were right behind the front and only seat. They called them "whoopee wagons" and I think this is what they drove around the mountains before jeeps became more commonly available.
Sadly, I missed out on all that fun and those chopped cars were rusting relics by my time with them.
The Dumb Car could have been a really fun toy ;/
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Cut the pan and remove the doors from a VW cabrio and you can sit in the back seat and drive:
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I like that. Gives me ideas for a project when I get home.
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Cut the pan and remove the doors from a VW cabrio and you can sit in the back seat and drive:
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Is that real? It's kind of cute.
But, I think a 2cv would be a fun car to fart around with, too.
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I don't know whether to yawn or barf.
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Mahindra almost brought one over, and I've heard those same rumors about the F-150 for about 5 years now since they first announced plans for the 2009 model year. I'll believe it when I see it.
I saw a bunch of Mahindra pickups when visiting my wife's family in South America a year ago. They are NOT Ranger-size. They're nearly as big as an F-150, and about as ugly as warts on a toad.
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Is that real? It's kind of cute.
Works with busses too. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwAXZ2mXQlQ)
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that could be a fun weekend escape vehicle, or a way to commute to within a cities bicycle range and then park for free on the edge
Weekend escape? Maybe for one person, with luggage in the passenger seat. With two people, luggage goes in the back, and you need a secure, weather-proof box in the back. Otherwise, you must wait for the weather to cooperate, and you either don't stop until you get to where you're staying the night, or you put your luggage inside the vehicle when you do.
I have played the latter game with my pitifully small, but much larger than the Smart pickup there, Tacoma. It is frustrating. I would kill severely beat someone with a large fish to get back into a full-size pickup.
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That's gheyer than two boys *expletive deleted*ing while watching a Twilight marathon.
FTFY
I'd be interested in a 1/2 ton pickup with a turbo-diesel, long bed, 2 door extended cab and 4X4, manual 5 speed transmission.
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FTFY
I'd be interested in a 1/2 ton pickup with a turbo-diesel, long bed, 2 door extended cab and 4X4, manual 5 speed transmission.
A 2500 HD (or 250 Super Duty as Ford calls it), in my opinion, is worth the extra few thousand dollars for the beefier frame, drivetrain, and monster brakes, even if you aren't sure you'll need them.
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Doctor friend of mine calls those teeny little cars ODV's. Organ Donor Vehicles. =D
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Are there youtube videos of this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j9RqljSJAQ&feature=related
Offset head-on at 40MPH with a Mercedes.
Notice the clown car doesn't just decelerate in the crash, it changes direction, goes airborne, and spins. (IIRC, they said it spun 540 degrees in the air.)
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A 2500 HD (or 250 Super Duty as Ford calls it), in my opinion, is worth the extra few thousand dollars for the beefier frame, drivetrain, and monster brakes, even if you aren't sure you'll need them.
It ain't the purchase price - it's the $4/gal diesel, or whatever it gets up to by next year or the year after. :(
I'd still like a pickup - even a half ton - that could get 30-40 mpg. =)
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I'd get one to put in back of my truck....that way, instead of a spare tire, I'd have a spare vehicle to get me down the road....
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j9RqljSJAQ&feature=related
Offset head-on at 40MPH with a Mercedes.
Notice the clown car doesn't just decelerate in the crash, it changes direction, goes airborne, and spins. (IIRC, they said it spun 540 degrees in the air.)
The emblem around 1:30 was a nice touch
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It ain't the purchase price - it's the $4/gal diesel, or whatever it gets up to by next year or the year after. :(
I'd still like a pickup - even a half ton - that could get 30-40 mpg. =)
$4/gal diesel partially due to the newer "clean burning" fuel formulation + DPFs or urea filters so your truck can run on the clean diesel = lower MPG.
Hooray for EPA.
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$4/gal diesel partially due to the newer "clean burning" fuel formulation + DPFs or urea filters so your truck can run on the clean diesel = lower MPG.
Hooray for EPA.
*expletive deleted*ck the EPA
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I want a full-sized half ton pickup with a supercharged 3 liter diesel engine. I don't think a normally-aspirated 3.5 to 3.8 liter would be strong enough, but I could be mistaken. It needs to be able to haul a yard of gravel or load of firewood, or pull a small boat or trailer, or cruise 75 mph down the highway. Doesn't need to be able to do all those things at the same time.
I don't follow diesels all that closely. That said, I have not heard of a diesel, regardless of [on-highway legal]application, that was made in the last 20 years that wasn't turbocharged.
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I don't follow diesels all that closely. That said, I have not heard of a diesel, regardless of application, that was made in the last 20 years that wasn't turbocharged.
Smaller diesels aren't always turbocharged. The Yanmar 3 cyl in my JD 955 is normally aspirated.
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I don't follow diesels all that closely. That said, I have not heard of a diesel, regardless of application, that was made in the last 20 years that wasn't turbocharged.
This one isn't, 2010 Kioti CK20S
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