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Title: Hawaiian Lawmakers Introduce Resolution Calling For 2A Repeal
Post by: WLJ on March 06, 2019, 03:31:18 PM


Hawaiian Lawmakers Introduce Resolution Calling For 2A Repeal
https://bearingarms.com/tom-k/2019/03/06/hawaiian-lawmakers-introduce-resolution-calling-2a-repeal/

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    BE IT RESOLVED by the Senate of the Thirtieth Legislature of the State of Hawaii, Regular Session of 2019, the House of Representatives concurring, that the United States Congress is urged to propose and adopt a proposed amendment to the United States Constitution pursuant to article V of the United States Constitution to clarify the constitutional right to bear arms; and

    BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the United States Congress is requested to consider and discuss whether the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution should be repealed or amended to clarify that the right to bear arms is a collective, rather than individual, constitutional right; and

    BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that certified copies of this Concurrent Resolution be transmitted to the President Pro Tempore of the United States Senate, Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, Members of the Hawaii congressional delegation, and the Governor.

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SCR&billnumber=42&year=2019

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2019/bills/SCR42_.pdf
Title: Re: Hawaiian Lawmakers Introduce Resolution Calling For 2A Repeal
Post by: Angel Eyes on March 06, 2019, 04:19:13 PM
SCOTUS has already clarified in 2008 that the right to keep and bear arms is an individual, and not a collective, right.

The legislators in question need to have Heller explained to them.
Title: Re: Hawaiian Lawmakers Introduce Resolution Calling For 2A Repeal
Post by: bedlamite on March 06, 2019, 04:26:17 PM
Can somebody introduce legislation to knock hawaii back to a non voting territory?
Title: Re: Hawaiian Lawmakers Introduce Resolution Calling For 2A Repeal
Post by: Ben on March 06, 2019, 04:42:23 PM
Can somebody introduce legislation to knock hawaii back to a non voting territory?

No need. Just let the new green deal go through and they'll have to submit legislation by canoe.
Title: Re: Hawaiian Lawmakers Introduce Resolution Calling For 2A Repeal
Post by: JN01 on March 06, 2019, 04:51:13 PM
No one wants to take your guns.
Title: Re: Hawaiian Lawmakers Introduce Resolution Calling For 2A Repeal
Post by: WLJ on March 06, 2019, 04:57:50 PM
No need. Just let the new green deal go through and they'll have to submit legislation by canoe.

They should have the AOC Solar Powered LA to Hawaii Express Train up and running in a couple of years.
If they can get solar panels to work under water that is.
Title: Re: Hawaiian Lawmakers Introduce Resolution Calling For 2A Repeal
Post by: charby on March 06, 2019, 05:08:35 PM
No need. Just let the new green deal go through and they'll have to submit legislation by canoe.

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Hawaiian Lawmakers Introduce Resolution Calling For 2A Repeal
Post by: Northwoods on March 06, 2019, 09:50:20 PM
SCOTUS has already clarified in 2008 that the right to keep and bear arms is an individual, and not a collective, right.

The legislators in question need to have Heller explained to them.


Hence the call to amend the Constitution and either repeal or heavily modify the 2A to their liking.
Title: Re: Hawaiian Lawmakers Introduce Resolution Calling For 2A Repeal
Post by: HankB on March 06, 2019, 11:57:14 PM
Amend or repeal the 2A, and you establish a precedent that the ENTIRE Bill of Rights may be abolished.
Title: Re: Hawaiian Lawmakers Introduce Resolution Calling For 2A Repeal
Post by: T.O.M. on March 07, 2019, 06:40:27 AM
Play along with me.  Say they are successful at calling a Constitutional Convention and successfully propose repeal of 2A.  Can they get a majority of voters in 33 individual states (2/3 majority) to vote in favor of this and amend the Constitution? 
Title: Re: Hawaiian Lawmakers Introduce Resolution Calling For 2A Repeal
Post by: RoadKingLarry on March 07, 2019, 08:10:20 AM
Play along with me.  Say they are successful at calling a Constitutional Convention and successfully propose repeal of 2A.  Can they get a majority of voters in 33 individual states (2/3 majority) to vote in favor of this and amend the Constitution? 

That's what bothers me about a constitutional convention.  I have no illusions that the results would be the libertarian wet dream come true that it gets touted to be. My belief is that we would end up with a very European Union-esque constitution. Far too many of our politicians are feckless, greedy, power hungry pieces of *expletive deleted*it that would sell their souls for the right reward. All the while selling the rest of the country down the river.
We don't need a new constitution, we need to enforce the one we have.
Title: Re: Hawaiian Lawmakers Introduce Resolution Calling For 2A Repeal
Post by: Pb on March 07, 2019, 09:47:31 AM
HA needs its independence again.
Title: Re: Hawaiian Lawmakers Introduce Resolution Calling For 2A Repeal
Post by: TommyGunn on March 07, 2019, 10:48:32 AM
HA needs its independence again more active volcanos.

FIFY. :laugh:
Title: Re: Hawaiian Lawmakers Introduce Resolution Calling For 2A Repeal
Post by: HankB on March 07, 2019, 11:44:03 AM
. . . Far too many Nearly all of our politicians are feckless, greedy, power hungry pieces of *expletive deleted*it that would sell their souls for the right reward. All the while selling the rest of the country down the river. . . .
FIFY   =(
Title: Re: Hawaiian Lawmakers Introduce Resolution Calling For 2A Repeal
Post by: griz on March 07, 2019, 01:02:58 PM
No need. Just let the new green deal go through and they'll have to submit legislation by canoe.

Don't worry, if we don't have electric airliners soon there's always the high speed underwater rail.
Title: Re: Hawaiian Lawmakers Introduce Resolution Calling For 2A Repeal
Post by: Andiron on March 07, 2019, 03:43:32 PM
That's what bothers me about a constitutional convention.  I have no illusions that the results would be the libertarian wet dream come true that it gets touted to be. My belief is that we would end up with a very European Union-esque constitution. Far too many of our politicians are feckless, greedy, power hungry pieces of *expletive deleted*it that would sell their souls for the right reward. All the while selling the rest of the country down the river.
We don't need a new constitution, we need to enforce the one we have.

Mathew Bracken did a pretty good job speculating on how that would ho in Enemies Foreign and Domestic.
Title: Re: Hawaiian Lawmakers Introduce Resolution Calling For 2A Repeal
Post by: JN01 on March 07, 2019, 06:31:08 PM
Amend or repeal the 2A, and you establish a precedent that the ENTIRE Bill of Rights may be abolished.

Stop trying to encourage them.
Title: Re: Hawaiian Lawmakers Introduce Resolution Calling For 2A Repeal
Post by: bscl on March 07, 2019, 11:49:13 PM
Wow.. Aside from seeing i1639 get passed since moving to WA, I'm glad I don't have to deal with HI politicians anymore.  Although the progressive statists here seem to be in a race to head in the same direction...

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