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Title: What firearms manufacturere has/had the worst numbering or naming system?
Post by: just Warren on February 01, 2021, 10:48:24 PM
The question is in the title.

What gun maker, current or defunct, has or had the least intuitive way of designating their various makes or models?
Title: Re: What firearms manufacturere has/had the worst numbering or naming system?
Post by: dogmush on February 02, 2021, 04:18:37 AM
Smith and Wesson.
Title: Re: What firearms manufacturere has/had the worst numbering or naming system?
Post by: Boomhauer on February 02, 2021, 06:22:30 AM
Smith and Wesson.

Yep.
Title: Re: What firearms manufacturere has/had the worst numbering or naming system?
Post by: 230RN on February 02, 2021, 06:33:03 AM
Smith and Wesson.

Ummm, maybe, but you sort of get used to that one since it's so common.

The snake Colts have always been amusing to me.  If they really wanted to analog deadliness, they should have named them Mamba, Krait, Cobra (OK, they already got that one), Terciopelo, and other such-like names.

That's what I think anyhow, and the hell with the advertising department.

Terry, 230RN

REF:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dangerous_snakes
Title: Re: What firearms manufacturere has/had the worst numbering or naming system?
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on February 02, 2021, 10:56:13 AM
Glock is pretty bad too.

So is Sig.

And Taurus.
Title: Re: What firearms manufacturere has/had the worst numbering or naming system?
Post by: WLJ on February 02, 2021, 11:17:18 AM

And Taurus.

PT-111 which had Gen 1, 2, and 3
Taurus then releases a new PT-111 that they call the PT-111 Gen 2 or the G2. Wait wut?
Title: Re: What firearms manufacturere has/had the worst numbering or naming system?
Post by: charby on February 02, 2021, 11:33:39 AM
Ummm, maybe, but you sort of get used to that one since it's so common.

The snake Colts have always been amusing to me.  If they really wanted to analog deadliness, they should have named them Mamba, Krait, Cobra (OK, they already got that one), Terciopelo, and other such-like names.

That's what I think anyhow, and the hell with the advertising department.

Terry, 230RN

REF:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dangerous_snakes

Then a competitor could of had the Mongoose Revolver.
Title: Re: What firearms manufacturere has/had the worst numbering or naming system?
Post by: Nick1911 on February 02, 2021, 11:51:34 AM
I don't feel like any of them are particular intuitive.  But, model names are intended as marketing, not as simple product descriptors.  So, that makes sense.

Title: Re: What firearms manufacturere has/had the worst numbering or naming system?
Post by: 230RN on February 02, 2021, 12:04:53 PM
^,^
No way. Mongooses are too cutesy.

https://cdn.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/mongoose-2380385_960_720.jpg

But look at the claws on that little one.

^
:)  Of course, Nick1911, but if they wanted aggressive, dangerous animals, they could have used even more aggressive, dangerous snakes.  :)

I am also amused at car names, but they seem to have run out of fearsome animals they could link their models to.  So now I guess they're using place names, as in the Nissan Murano. I mean,why not call a car a Nissan Colorado Springs?

Amirite?

But the funniest product names are drug names, which frequently consist merely of alternating random consonants with random vowels.

Maybe they should name guns that way, too.

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ANNOUNCING THE NEW HARD-HITTING LOCK-BUSTING. MEPAGO .357 MAGNUM !

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Terry, 230RN
Title: Re: What firearms manufacturere has/had the worst numbering or naming system?
Post by: K Frame on February 02, 2021, 12:12:58 PM
I really liked it when S&W had model names. That gave them some class...

Combat Masterpiece... Terrier... Centennial... New Century... Military and Police...

Yeah, those were neat.

The whole thing with the switch to model numbers as the primary designation, yeah, I could see that, but I wish that they had laid out blocks of numbers for each frame size... say.... 1-30 for J frames, 31-70 K frames, etc.

The semi-auto numbers were so bad in the 1990s that S&W had to come out with a circular slide rule.
Title: Re: What firearms manufacturere has/had the worst numbering or naming system?
Post by: WLJ on February 02, 2021, 12:13:56 PM
No way. Mongooses are too cutesy.

https://cdn.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/mongoose-2380385_960_720.jpg

But look at the claws on that little one.

So are Koalas until one get angry
Title: Re: What firearms manufacturere has/had the worst numbering or naming system?
Post by: HeroHog on February 02, 2021, 01:11:46 PM
Then a competitor could of had the Mongoose Revolver.
Tom McEwin special?
Title: Re: What firearms manufacturere has/had the worst numbering or naming system?
Post by: MechAg94 on February 02, 2021, 03:24:01 PM
I have heard complaints about Sig making significant changes to the internals of guns with no change in the model number such as a P365A1 or something. 

I figured S&W liked the number names of the revolvers since they could stamp that in there with the serial number. 

I am indifferent as long as I can describe what I have without too much verbage.  Sort of like saying I have a CZ75 SP01 Phantom.  That is descriptive, but it is a mouthful. 
Title: Re: What firearms manufacturere has/had the worst numbering or naming system?
Post by: RoadKingLarry on February 02, 2021, 03:55:47 PM
I really liked it when S&W had model names. That gave them some class...

Combat Masterpiece... Terrier... Centennial... New Century... Military and Police...

Yeah, those were neat.

The whole thing with the switch to model numbers as the primary designation, yeah, I could see that, but I wish that they had laid out blocks of numbers for each frame size... say.... 1-30 for J frames, 31-70 K frames, etc.

The semi-auto numbers were so bad in the 1990s that S&W had to come out with a circular slide rule.

I wish I still had my Distinguished Combat Magnum. (586)
Title: Re: What firearms manufacturere has/had the worst numbering or naming system?
Post by: HankB on February 04, 2021, 07:53:41 AM
I have heard complaints about Sig making significant changes to the internals of guns with no change in the model number such as a P365A1 or something. 
The SIG P210 being sold now is considerably different inside than the classic version which earned so much respect over the years. But as far as that goes, the recently re-introduced Colt Python is different internally from the original . . . although there seems to be a growing consensus that it's actually an improvement.

Aside from numbering, the worst naming I can recall was Charter Arms' marketing of a couple of small revolvers as Bonnie & Clyde . . . naming guns after murderous bank robbers wasn't a very good marketing or PR move.
Title: Re: What firearms manufacturere has/had the worst numbering or naming system?
Post by: lee n. field on February 04, 2021, 06:09:10 PM
The question is in the title.

What gun maker, current or defunct, has or had the least intuitive way of designating their various makes or models?

Walther is confusing.  And their website is, not good.
Title: Re: What firearms manufacturere has/had the worst numbering or naming system?
Post by: Devonai on February 04, 2021, 07:49:51 PM
S&W's 3rd-gen system is really straightforward, until it isn't.