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Title: Do you know the most common reason for a denial of gun purchase?
Post by: Pb on January 01, 2019, 06:51:50 PM

Do you know the most common reason for a denial of gun purchase?
The answer suprised me, that is for sure.
It isn't even very close.

https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/active_records_in_the_nics-indices.pdf/view

Title: Re: Do you know the most common reason for a denial of gun purchase?
Post by: TommyGunn on January 01, 2019, 07:41:26 PM

 :facepalm:   Who'da guessed THAT?? ??  ??     ??     ??

Title: Re: Do you know the most common reason for a denial of gun purchase?
Post by: cordex on January 01, 2019, 07:46:47 PM

Yeah, but we are clearly winning the war on drugs.

Title: Re: Do you know the most common reason for a denial of gun purchase?
Post by: Ben on January 01, 2019, 08:13:18 PM

I was actually surprised at that as well. To somewhat veer a thread (again), that's also an interesting number to potentially extrapolate a total illegal population. I could be wrong, but I'm guessing the percentage of the total illegal population that will walk into a gun store and do the paperwork is pretty low.

I didn't see a timeframe for the collected records, but that's an awfully large number.

Title: Re: Do you know the most common reason for a denial of gun purchase?
Post by: cordex on January 01, 2019, 08:34:49 PM

Is that the transactional history of rejects or the list of people who would be rejected if they tried?

Title: Re: Do you know the most common reason for a denial of gun purchase?
Post by: RoadKingLarry on January 01, 2019, 08:44:47 PM

DAMN YOU NRA!

Title: Re: Do you know the most common reason for a denial of gun purchase?
Post by: MillCreek on January 01, 2019, 09:27:09 PM

I would have thought that domestic violence and substance use (most notably marijuana) would have ranked much higher. My neighbor the gunsmith/FFL says a fair number of people check the substance use box due to legal marijuana in Washington state, and are surprised and horrified when they are declined forever more.

Title: Re: Do you know the most common reason for a denial of gun purchase?
Post by: 230RN on January 01, 2019, 09:35:11 PM

Given the present-day composition of people in the general population, I'd be surprised if illegal/unlawful aliens weren't at the top of just about any sample drawn in the U.S.

I'm not grinning when I say that.

Good evidence to support the $5B the President wants for a wall.

Terry, 230RN

Title: Re: Do you know the most common reason for a denial of gun purchase?
Post by: MechAg94 on January 01, 2019, 10:16:22 PM

I have heard a few people say the highest cause of rejected background checks is false positives, meaning legal, but name is close someone on ban list.  I am not sure where that came from.

Title: Re: Do you know the most common reason for a denial of gun purchase?
Post by: zxcvbob on January 02, 2019, 12:45:36 AM

I get delayed every time I buy a gun.  Usually if I put my SSN on the form the delay is just a few minutes, but last time it was 4 days.  :mad:  I think that means they didn't even process that one and the time ran out.

Title: Re: Do you know the most common reason for a denial of gun purchase?
Post by: K Frame on January 04, 2019, 08:36:54 AM

My question is...

How many of those instances in which a prohibited person attempted to purchase a firearm resulted in prosecution?

Title: Re: Do you know the most common reason for a denial of gun purchase?
Post by: slugcatcher on January 04, 2019, 09:07:29 AM

Quote from: MechAg94 on January 01, 2019, 10:16:22 PM

I have heard a few people say the highest cause of rejected background checks is false positives, meaning legal, but name is close someone on ban list.  I am not sure where that came from.

That has actually happened to me twice before I bought my handgun license. 

Title: Re: Do you know the most common reason for a denial of gun purchase?
Post by: MillCreek on January 04, 2019, 10:03:51 AM

^^^I now give my SSN, since a couple of times I had a substantial delay because someone with my first and last name is apparently in the system as some sort of miscreant.

Title: Re: Do you know the most common reason for a denial of gun purchase?
Post by: Scout26 on January 04, 2019, 10:29:07 AM

Quote from: Mike Irwin on January 04, 2019, 08:36:54 AM

My question is...

How many of those instances in which a prohibited person attempted to purchase a firearm resulted in prosecution?

Not very many.  Probably not more then triple digits.  Maybe even just double digits.

Title: Re: Do you know the most common reason for a denial of gun purchase?
Post by: Ron on January 04, 2019, 10:51:27 AM

Did NICS fail to get the memo that diversity is our strength?

How are these proto US citizens going to protect themselves from the roving gangs of White Nationalists?

Title: Re: Do you know the most common reason for a denial of gun purchase?
Post by: brimic on January 04, 2019, 11:00:23 AM

Also, because its 2018 2019...

https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/atf-genderqueer-gun-purchasers/

Title: Re: Do you know the most common reason for a denial of gun purchase?
Post by: Scout26 on January 04, 2019, 07:12:42 PM

On the other hand....

https://www.concealedcarry.com/law/marijuana-concealed-carry-and-firearm-ownership/