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Re: U.S. not prepared for Mumbai-like terror attacks
« Reply #50 on: November 24, 2010, 12:55:36 AM »
I thought he chained some of the doors?
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Re: U.S. not prepared for Mumbai-like terror attacks
« Reply #51 on: November 24, 2010, 06:00:30 AM »
I thought he chained some of the doors?

Yes, he chained the doors to the classroom building.  But nobody knew that till SWAT had assembled, stacked and tried to rush the doors.  Then they had to go look for something to cut the chains with.

For a very brief moment there was some effort to teach elementary-school aged kids to throw books at and bum-rush the armed intruder.  Apparently some adult then figured out that teaching the kids how to take down an armed assailant might transfer to taking down a not-popular teacher/administrator so the program died.

Huddle up, folks.  Just like the fishies in the center, you can lessen the chance that YOU will be killed even though someone is going to buy the farm.

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Re: U.S. not prepared for Mumbai-like terror attacks
« Reply #52 on: November 24, 2010, 06:14:52 AM »
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Yes, he chained the doors to the classroom building.  But nobody knew that till SWAT had assembled, stacked and tried to rush the doors.  Then they had to go look for something to cut the chains with.


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Re: U.S. not prepared for Mumbai-like terror attacks
« Reply #53 on: November 24, 2010, 07:00:22 AM »
You mean like how everyone hung out outside the buildings at VT and had the time to get their pretty little tac vests and helmets out of the closet and put them on? One twerp with a Glock and no one student, faculty, or LE actively engaged him.

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Re: U.S. not prepared for Mumbai-like terror attacks
« Reply #54 on: November 24, 2010, 11:18:18 AM »
I was just wondering today, why is the TSA so much crazier with the scans and pat-downs than federal buildings or sporting events?

I had to go to two interviews in a federal building earlier this year (but didn't get the job  ;/ ) and they had the whole security thing.

But the US Marshalls were actually polite and professional about the whole thing.

(something about being armed and polite  ???  =) )
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Re: U.S. not prepared for Mumbai-like terror attacks
« Reply #55 on: November 24, 2010, 11:22:00 AM »
I had to go to two interviews in a federal building earlier this year (but didn't get the job  ;/ ) and they had the whole security thing.

But the US Marshalls were actually polite and professional about the whole thing.

(something about being armed and polite  ???  =) )

Did they touch your body at all?
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Re: U.S. not prepared for Mumbai-like terror attacks
« Reply #56 on: November 24, 2010, 12:39:18 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liviu_Librescu

Memory fades. I'm pretty sure we talked about that guy here too. The point remains, slightly altered. One guy resisted. Purely defensive and quite heroic. It is what leaders should do.  Two others were killed attempting to barricade their room doors. Several rooms were successfully barricaded and no one was killed. . Now what if policy had not restricted him or his adult students from carry? 32 killed, 25 wounded by one idiot. Defensive tactics like barricading didn't stop 30 people from being killed. Offense was unavailable and apparently not in anyone's mind. We're not ready for a Mumbai or Beslan. No one else, young, fit and at close range fought back????  The idiot killed two people several hours earlier and life on the campus went on as normal outside the crime scene tape? That is a peacetime mentality, dead people, no shooter and there is no mass alert?
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Re: U.S. not prepared for Mumbai-like terror attacks
« Reply #57 on: November 24, 2010, 01:29:15 PM »
Did they touch your body at all?

No, they just did the wand thing when the metal detector kept going off.

Apparently, there were metal stays in my knee brace.

The outfit (private contractor working in-house) said that once you get your ID badge, you can walk right through and ignore all the beeping.  So I guess I could carry whatever I wanted into there  =|
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