Author Topic: Objects in Space (Read 13319 times)

Perd Hapley · « **on:** April 09, 2010, 10:51:28 PM »

I just had this really weird thought about Noah's Ark floating in space.....

Now that you've had some time to digest that, it brought up the question I sometimes ponder but never actually research, about how various inanimate objects would be affected by the vacuum of outer space. What would happen to wood, for example? Or if you did strap corpses to your mock-Reaver vessel, what would happen to them in space?

Thank you.

RocketMan · « **Reply #1 on:** April 09, 2010, 11:08:03 PM »

Umm...desication?

MechAg94 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 09, 2010, 11:28:59 PM »

Quote from: RocketMan on April 09, 2010, 11:08:03 PM

Umm...desication?

Do you think he is trying to make jerky or something?

Gowen · « **Reply #3 on:** April 09, 2010, 11:32:59 PM »

Is anyone else seeing/not seeing the pic that Fistfull posted?

PTK · « **Reply #4 on:** April 09, 2010, 11:36:48 PM »

Quote from: MechAg94 on April 09, 2010, 11:28:59 PM

Do you think he is trying to make jerky or something?

Space jerky.

Quote from: scanr on April 09, 2010, 11:32:59 PM

Is anyone else seeing/not seeing the pic that Fistfull posted?

There isn't one.

sanglant · « **Reply #5 on:** April 09, 2010, 11:48:13 PM »

oh there's a pic, i vote we ban him for it.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #6 on:** April 10, 2010, 12:34:31 AM »

Quote from: scanr on April 09, 2010, 11:32:59 PM

Is anyone else seeing/not seeing the pic that Fistfull posted?

I was just giving you some time to wonder why on earth I was thinking such a bizarre thought, but here's the closest picture I could find to the ark in space. I'm hoping Tuttle will oblige us with something.

sanglant · « **Reply #7 on:** April 10, 2010, 01:16:42 AM »

i suspect the wood would freeze and split where on the dark side, and char and fall apart on the bright side, the bodies would be freeze dried on the first and charbroiled on the second.

wait, does that mean there's a dark side of the ark? if so....

if the board your on starts posting different threads,, i'll see you on the dark side of the ark....

kgbsquirrel · « **Reply #8 on:** April 10, 2010, 03:04:02 AM »

The fluids in the body would begin immediately boiling as soon as atmospheric pressure was lost with corresponding expansion and laceration/fracturing of the surrounding tissues until the thermal loss overtakes that process causing the remaining fluids to freeze. Oh wait, did you not want a serious answer? *whistles innocently*

PTK · « **Reply #9 on:** April 10, 2010, 03:05:01 AM »

Quote from: kgbsquirrel on April 10, 2010, 03:04:02 AM

The fluids in the body would begin immediately boiling as soon as atmospheric pressure was lost with corresponding expansion and laceration/fracturing of the surrounding tissues until the thermal loss overtakes that process causing the remaining fluids to freeze. Oh wait, did you not want a serious answer? *whistles innocently*

You're gross sometimes, Bill.

kgbsquirrel · « **Reply #10 on:** April 10, 2010, 03:07:17 AM »

Quote from: PTK on April 10, 2010, 03:05:01 AM

You're gross sometimes, Bill.

No, gross is visualizing what happens to a persons skeleton in vacuum when the bone marrow locked inside suddenly expands in volume several times over.

PTK · « **Reply #11 on:** April 10, 2010, 03:07:48 AM »

Dude.

sanglant · « **Reply #12 on:** April 10, 2010, 03:13:13 AM »

what, you didn't know how jerky was made?

but really
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIK4DVLHf7Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfI0NKl-Kq0

S. Williamson · « **Reply #13 on:** April 10, 2010, 03:20:49 AM »

Quote from: kgbsquirrel on April 10, 2010, 03:07:17 AM

No, gross is visualizing what happens to a persons skeleton in vacuum when the bone marrow locked inside suddenly expands in volume several times over.

*crunchsplat*

What I've gotta wonder, though, is would the skin actually rupture like a hot dog in the microwave? IIRC, bones, etc. are porous what with the marrow producing blood and all, and the tear ducts/nose/mouth/nethers... wouldn't the fluids merely seep from them instead (like poking holes in the aforementioned hypothetical hot dog)?

kgbsquirrel · « **Reply #14 on:** April 10, 2010, 03:24:25 AM »

Quote from: Dionysusigma on April 10, 2010, 03:20:49 AM

*crunchsplat*

What I've gotta wonder, though, is would the skin actually rupture like a hot dog in the microwave? IIRC, bones, etc. are porous what with the marrow producing blood and all, and the tear ducts/nose/mouth/nethers... wouldn't the fluids merely seep from them instead (like poking holes in the aforementioned hypothetical hot dog)?

I'm not sure. We should test.. FOR SCIENCE!! Anybody got a fresh cadaver and a vacuum chamber they aren't currently using?

S. Williamson · « **Reply #15 on:** April 10, 2010, 03:27:28 AM »

Seems NASA already has.

NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART OR PeTA PEOPLE:
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/atmosphere/q0291.shtml

... but very interesting nonetheless.

Summary: You puff up like a marshmallow, but the real danger is lack of oxygen.

Mabs2 · « **Reply #16 on:** April 10, 2010, 01:37:52 PM »

Quote from: fistful on April 10, 2010, 12:34:31 AM

I'm hoping Tuttle will oblige us with something.

PFFT

lupinus · « **Reply #17 on:** April 10, 2010, 01:45:32 PM »

I imagine drying out and otherwise perfect preservation. As it's oxygen dependent microbes that are the reason for decay, in space where there is no oxygen or other gases there would effectively be no organic decomposition and any damage would be purely physical. Cooking either through heat or radiation, impact from asteroids or other space debris, etc.

Mabs2 · « **Reply #18 on:** April 10, 2010, 07:38:55 PM »

This thread is quiet now because none of you can believe how completely and utterly I have destroyed Tuttle's reputation as an image manipulator. Look upon my work and weep. Weep because Tuttle has fallen. But moreso, weep because I have taken his place.
You do not yet know tyranny.

S. Williamson · « **Reply #19 on:** April 10, 2010, 07:42:49 PM »

/cue lamentations of women and children

Headless Thompson Gunner · « **Reply #20 on:** April 10, 2010, 07:50:21 PM »

Quote from: fistful on April 09, 2010, 10:51:28 PM

Now that you've had some time to digest that, it brought up the question I sometimes ponder but never actually research, about how various inanimate objects would be affected by the vacuum of outer space. What would happen to wood, for example? Or if you did strap corpses to your mock-Reaver vessel, what would happen to them in space?

Thank you.

Thermal cycling (I assume your object is rotating, alternating between sun and shade) would quickly break down most materials, including wood and flesh. Dessication and outgassing would also be major problems for many materials. Radiation would do a number on most materials, too.

Mabs2 · « **Reply #21 on:** April 10, 2010, 08:04:25 PM »

It doesn't matter how long or how a corpse would become nothing when floating in space because the armies of Hell on their way to Earth from Phobos will pick up all corpses and reanimate them for use in their horrifying army.

Amateurs.

This is probably what the horrible Daemon piloted ship would look like cruising through space.

Be warned, it's graphic.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #22 on:** April 10, 2010, 11:17:37 PM »

Mabs, you are the dumbest tyrant ever. I am not afraid of you. You are dumb.

S. Williamson · « **Reply #23 on:** April 11, 2010, 12:37:54 AM »

Quote from: fistful on April 10, 2010, 11:17:37 PM

Mabs, you are the dumbest tyrant ever. I am not afraid of you. You are dumb.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcY090XV284#t=9m45s

230RN · « **Reply #24 on:** April 11, 2010, 12:56:37 AM »

Dionysusigma would seem to be right about the hot-dog-in-the-μwave popping.

The vapor pressure of water is 47 mm Hg at body temperature -- about 1 psia. Assuming a fresh, warm corpse, the blood would start evaporating quickly, maybe even boil, and try to fill the body cavity to that 1 psia with nothing pushing back. Maybe a little less because of the salt in the body's fluid, maybe a little more because the gases (N2) dissolved in the fluids would start to come out of solution, like "the bends."

Man, what a f@rt that would be! Might even be enough to throw the corpse out of orbit!

Say, if Noah took only two of each animal, what did he feed the lions after the two lambs/sheep were eaten?

And he must've had one heck of a ventilation and stall-cleaning problem, yes?

Terry, 230RN

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Author Topic: Objects in Space (Read 13319 times)