Remember the preacher that wanted to burn the Koran?

[Perd Hapley]

Well, he actually did it about two weeks ago, and it hasn't been a big news story. Except in Afghanistan, where 12 people were murdered.

http://www.cbs12.com/news/afghanistan-4731736-protesters-quran.html

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/27401839/detail.html

[cambeul41]

I find “Reverend” Terry Jones and his Quran burning, so-called Christian co-conspirators  and the murderous Muslims to all be loathsome.

My contempt is not for good Christians or good Muslims. (I was for 26 years married into a Thai-Chinese Muslim family, all of whom were fine people.)

[Perd Hapley]

I find “Reverend” Terry Jones and his Quran burning, so-called Christian co-conspirators  and the murderous Muslims to all be loathsome.

My contempt is not for good Christians or good Muslims.

I quite agree. And though it doesn't bring back the twelve dead, I'll add that the folks down in Florida are less loathsome than those who did the killing.

[never_retreat]

Let them kill each other over someone else burning a stupid book in a different country.
It just shows the true level of there intelligence.

[Declaration Day]

Let them kill each other over someone else burning a stupid book in a different country.
It just shows the true level of their intelligence.

Or their lack of value for human life.

Killing people over a burned book?  Savages. 

[Perd Hapley]

Let them kill each other over someone else burning a stupid book in a different country.
It just shows the true level of there intelligence.

Most of the deceased were foreigners in the employ of the U.N., so they're not exactly killing "each other." 

[tincat2]

why doesn't this 'preacher' go to a muslim country and do his act there?

[Perd Hapley]

why doesn't this 'preacher' go to a muslim country and do his act there?

I think somebody here was giving away frequent flyer miles...

[RaspberrySurprise]

why doesn't this 'preacher' go to a muslim country and do his act there?

Because that would be, quite frankly, idiotic in the extreme and he'd likely be dead.

[Jamisjockey]

Last week, Afghan President Hamid Karzai issued a statement calling the burning a "crime against a religion." He denounced it as a "disrespectful and abhorrent act" and called on the U.S. and the United Nations to bring to justice those who burned the holy book and issue a response to Muslims around the world. 

 

Anyone else find this statement bothersome?  It wasn't too long ago that a french fashion designer was charged with the actual crime of racisim, for making racial remarks in public.

Hate crime will become thought crime.  It will become illegal to say certain things against certain religions or peoples.  Mark my words.

[roo_ster]

I thinks folk actions pretty much speak for themselves.

In the Muslim world:

Terry Jones burned a Koran, thereby showing he is insensitive to Muslim sensibilities.

Afghanis hear about it then riot and murder, showing they are savages who ought to be killed like mad dogs.

In the West:

Some dude  burns/pisses on/otherwise desecrates a Bible, showing he is insensitive to Christian sensibilities.

Given it is so common, likely nobody hears about it unless the media wants to rub Christian noses in it.

Christians get upset, say so, and also say the pisser is a jerk.

Some atheists make FSM jokes and ridicule the Christians for being uncoool.

Nobody gets killed.

[Jamisjockey]

I thinks folk actions pretty much speak for themselves.

In the Muslim world:

Terry Jones burned a Koran, thereby showing he is insensitive to Muslim sensibilities.

Afghanis hear about it then riot and murder, showing they are savages who ought to be killed like mad dogs.

Their President calls for freedom of expressive speech of westerners in a country 12,000 miles away be curbed by the UN, so as not to offend their savage ways.
In the West:

Some dude  burns/pisses on/otherwise desecrates a Bible, showing he is insensitive to Christian sensibilities.

Given it is so common, likely nobody hears about it unless the media wants to rub Christian noses in it.

Christians get upset, say so, and also say the pisser is a jerk.

Some atheists make FSM jokes and ridicule the Christians for being uncoool.

Nobody gets killed.

FTFY.

[Perd Hapley]

In the West:

Some dude  burns/pisses on/otherwise desecrates a Bible, showing he is insensitive to Christian sensibilities.

Given it is so common, likely nobody hears about it unless the media wants to rub Christian noses in it.

Christians get upset, say so, and also say the pisser is a jerk.

Some atheists make FSM jokes and ridicule the Christians for being uncoool.

Some Christians laugh along with it, to show they're cool.

Nobody gets killed.

Remedied that for you.

[roo_ster]

Bravo, JJ & fistful.

[Lee]

A group of idiots + another group of idiots = two groups of idiots.  What can you say about what idiots do...other than, "the idiots are doing it again"?

[White Horseradish]

Because that would be, quite frankly, idiotic in the extreme and he'd likely be dead.

Given how idiotic this stunt is to begin with, going the extra moron mile (or 12000 of them) would be quite fitting.

I am getting seriously fed up with people who want to fight for a cause, but only on the condition that they don't have to do any actual fighting. You want to teach the heathens something? Go to them. That's what those old-timey missionaries did. More than a few of them became martyrs, but that's the price of admission.

Burning a book in the safety of your own back yard is stupid, cowardly, and, given how predictable the response is, downright evil. If some enterprising jihadist happens to meet up with Mr. Jones I will not be particularly saddened.

[Perd Hapley]

You want to teach the heathens something? Go to them. That's what those old-timey missionaries did. More than a few of them became martyrs, but that's the price of admission.

They're still doing it, and some of them still end up martyrs. Real martyrs, of course; not martyr complex dolts like Mr. Jones.


"Going the extra moron mile..." I resemble that remark, but it is definitely sig-worthy.

[Phantom Warrior]

Given how idiotic this stunt is to begin with, going the extra moron mile (or 12000 of them) would be quite fitting.

I am getting seriously fed up with people who want to fight for a cause, but only on the condition that they don't have to do any actual fighting. You want to teach the heathens something? Go to them. That's what those old-timey missionaries did. More than a few of them became martyrs, but that's the price of admission.

Burning a book in the safety of your own back yard is stupid, cowardly, and, given how predictable the response is, downright evil. If some enterprising jihadist happens to meet up with Mr. Jones I will not be particularly saddened.

I think this is sort of tangential to your argument but it is pretty tasteless to equate people that willingly put their lives on the line to spread the Gospel with someone making a tasteless, low risk political (?) point.

Also, you have to put your life at risk before you can exercise free speech now?

[White Horseradish]

I think this is sort of tangential to your argument but it is pretty tasteless to equate people that willingly put their lives on the line to spread the Gospel with someone making a tasteless, low risk political (?) point.

I did not at all equate them. Either I was unclear, or you misunderstand. They are doing it right. Jones is doing it wrong. He is hiding in safety behind the backs of soldiers and, what's worse, is willingly putting other people at risk for his beliefs.

Also, you have to put your life at risk before you can exercise free speech now?

No. However, putting the lives of others at risk to exercise your right to free speech is a crappy thing to do.  Personal responsibility and teaching by example are concepts Mr. Jones would do well to get acquainted with.

[roo_ster]

Pyro Pastor is not in any way responsible for anyone's deaths.  Look to the savages who committed the murders to fix blame.

If, someplace in the US of A, Somedude said "Look, some wogs in BFEistan are burning Old Glory!  Quick, let us go out and murder us some local wogs!" and then proceeded to kill them some local wogs in a rage, the responsibility for the murders lies at Somedude's feet.

To think otherwise is to assume foreigners have no moral agency.

[roo_ster]

http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/117927/

Post well worth your time  ^^^.  I couldn't make it up if I tried.

Did you know that Harry Reid and Lindsey Graham want to impose restrictions on speech that hurts religious people's feelings? 



Glenn ends with this:
"We’re led by cowards and fools. But at least by opening their mouths, they removed all doubt."

[Bigjake]

Yawn.

Another ahole along the likes of that Phelps creature.   

A pox on both of them.

[HankB]

Pyro Pastor is not in any way responsible for anyone's deaths.  Look to the savages who committed the murders to fix blame.

If, someplace in the US of A, Somedude said "Look, some wogs in BFEistan are burning Old Glory!  Quick, let us go out and murder us some local wogs!" and then proceeded to kill them some local wogs in a rage, the responsibility for the murders lies at Somedude's feet.

To think otherwise is to assume foreigners have no moral agency.

I think Pyro Pastor's actions are childish . . . and protected under the 1st Amendment.

But pointing the finger at him for overseas Moslem mayhem, and the actions contmplated by Harry Reid and Lindsey Graham, is an indication that political correctness has crossed the line into dhimmitude, and it's becoming deeply ingrained. 

[Hawkmoon]

All this just leaves me wondering -- what do Moslems do with Bibles when they overrun Christian schools and facilities? Do they treat the Christian Bible with the same respect they demand for the Q'uran, or do they burn, tear up, shoot, trample and otherwise sully the Christian holy book?

If they do any of the above, they have no right to complain when anyone does it to THEIR holy book.

And, lest anyone claim that the Moslem holy book is somehow more holy and more sacred than the Christian holy book, I was raised in a fairly ordinary, run-of-the-mill Christian family. No raving fundamentalists, no "Bible thumpers," no missionaries. My mother was Episcopal, my father was Congregationalist. And we were raised that nothing superseded the Bible. If a bunch of books were stacked on a table, nothing could be placed on top of the Bible.

I think that approach would probably cover trampling in mud, etc.

Just another example of why the "Religion of Peace" ... isn't.

[zxcvbob]

All this just leaves me wondering -- what do Moslems do with Bibles when they overrun Christian schools and facilities? Do they treat the Christian Bible with the same respect they demand for the Q'uran, or do they burn, tear up, shoot, trample and otherwise sully the Christian holy book?

If they do any of the above, they have no right to complain when anyone does it to THEIR holy book.

And, lest anyone claim that the Moslem holy book is somehow more holy and more sacred than the Christian holy book, I was raised in a fairly ordinary, run-of-the-mill Christian family. No raving fundamentalists, no "Bible thumpers," no missionaries. My mother was Episcopal, my father was Congregationalist. And we were raised that nothing superseded the Bible. If a bunch of books were stacked on a table, nothing could be placed on top of the Bible.

I think that approach would probably cover trampling in mud, etc.

Just another example of why the "Religion of Peace" ... isn't.

It wasn't that many years ago that the Taliban destroyed ancient Buddhist statues in... Afghanistan?