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Don Corleone contest
« on: April 27, 2011, 01:24:24 AM »
If it were remade:
Pacino? Could he pull it off now?
DeNiro? mmm. A little closer, I think.
Joe Pesci? If he would calm down I think he would make a perfect Don Corleone.
Ray Liotta: Maybe.

I can't think of a modern actor with the presence to pull it off. Look at Monkeyleg's avatar... that's a dude you don't want to mess with. Who can look that menacing without being a neanderthal?
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Re: Don Corleone contest
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2011, 02:03:30 AM »
"Fiore"?

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Re: Don Corleone contest
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2011, 02:10:56 AM »
"Fiore"?


Dumb idea I had, Monkeyleg. Fiore=flower. Don Corleone says that right after he speaks with Luca.
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Re: Don Corleone contest
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2011, 10:38:35 AM »
If it were remade:
Pacino? Could he pull it off now?
DeNiro? mmm. A little closer, I think.
Joe Pesci? If he would calm down I think he would make a perfect Don Corleone.
Ray Liotta: Maybe.

I can't think of a modern actor with the presence to pull it off. Look at Monkeyleg's avatar... that's a dude you don't want to mess with. Who can look that menacing without being a neanderthal?


Give Javier Bardem about 20 years and he'll be good for it, I think

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Re: Don Corleone contest
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2011, 11:17:07 AM »
1) It would be a huge mistake to remake the movie. It's too much of a cultural icon to tamper with.

2) It would be impossible for anyone to play Don Corleone without everyone instantly comparing him to Brando. Marlin Brando transformed himself into Vito Corleone. It's one of those performances where you forget the actor, and the actor completely becomes the character. I have the same reaction to Al Pacino in "Scarface". A complete transformation. (Interesting trivia: the studio wanted to give Danny Thomas the role of Vito Corleone).

3). If there were another Mafia movie made that required a heavyweight character like Vito Corleone, Al Pacino would be the first obvious choice, but he couldn't do it, as his past roles would interfere. Robert DeNiro is not a very multi-dimensional actor, and this role would require dimension. Ray Liotta is not a very good actor. Joe Pesci's voice is too high, and he's too short. He could maybe play Little Nicki Scarfo (the NJ mob boss from the 1980's).

Now, I'll try from memory to cite the dinner scene with Tom Hagan and movie producer Woltz.

Woltz: "Why didn't you tell me you worked for the  don, Tom? I thought you were some two-bit hood Johnny Fontaine was running to try to muscle me."

Tom Hagan: "I don't like to use his name unless it's necessary. Now the don is Johnny Fontaine's godfather, and to the Italian people that's a very religious and sacred ____."

Woltz: "Tell the don he should just ask for anything else, this is one favor I can't offer him."

Tom Hagan: "The don never asks for a second favor when he's be refused a first, understood?."

Woltz: "You don't understand. That part is perfect for him. It would make him a big star. And I'm gonna run him out of the business, and let me tell you why.

Johnny Fontaine ruined one of Woltz International's most valuable proteges. For five years we had her under acting lessons, dancing lessons, singing lessons. I spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on her. I was going to make her a star.

 And let me be even more frank, just to show you that I'm not a hard-hearted man, that it's not just dollars and sense: she was young, she was beautiful, she was innocent. She was the greatest piece of **expletive deleted*** I've ever had, and I've had them all over the world.

The along comes Johnny Fontaine with his olive oil voice and guinea charm, and she threw it all away. She threw it all away to make me look ridiculous! And a man in my position can't be made to look ridiculous! So you get the hell out of here! And you tell that goomba if he tries any rough stuff, I ain't no band leader. Yeah, I heard that story."

Hagan: "Mr. Woltz, thank you for dinner and a very pleasant evening. If your car could take me to the airport. Mr. Corleone is a man who wants to hear bad news immediately."


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Re: Don Corleone contest
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2011, 12:32:58 PM »
Joseph Gannascoli could do it



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Re: Don Corleone contest
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2011, 05:19:06 PM »
Leonardo DiCaprio








































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Re: Don Corleone contest
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2011, 05:22:53 PM »
As the official board Italian American I will give this my utmost considerastion and get back to you.  :-*
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Re: Don Corleone contest
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2011, 05:42:40 PM »
You've all seen photos of me. I should at least be an extra! :lol:
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Re: Don Corleone contest
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2011, 08:14:55 PM »
We'll make you a capo.  ;)
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Re: Don Corleone contest
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2011, 08:17:58 PM »
I still got nuttin'. Pacino, deniro, pesci, meh, I'm tire of seeing those guys play gangsters all the time. We need a fresh face.
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Re: Don Corleone contest
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2011, 08:30:54 PM »
I still got nuttin'. Pacino, deniro, pesci, meh, I'm tire of seeing those guys play gangsters all the time. We need a fresh face.
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Re: Don Corleone contest
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2011, 08:56:35 PM »
On the other pole, I'm seeing Luca Brazzi as a young man.


SADShooter was about the fourth person who said this, so does this qualify me for a role?  :lol:

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Re: Don Corleone contest
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2011, 08:59:27 PM »
Sylvester Stallone.

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Re: Don Corleone contest
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2011, 10:36:41 PM »

SADShooter was about the fourth person who said this, so does this qualify me for a role?  :lol:

Yes. Yes, it really does. :lol:
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Re: Don Corleone contest
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2011, 10:54:42 PM »
Coincidentally enough I just watched a Jewish guy we all know do an imitation of Brando/Corleone and I believe he COULD pull it off. You're going to love this, Gilbert Gottfried.  Now that'd be a fresh face for a mob guy. ;)
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Re: Don Corleone contest
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2011, 10:57:49 PM »
Larry Corriea. =D
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Re: Don Corleone contest
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2011, 11:49:39 PM »
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You're going to love this, Gilbert Gottfried.  Now that'd be a fresh face for a mob guy.

He should stick to ducks.

With a bit of styling (makeup and hair to make him look Italian) work, I could see Russell Crowe doing it. He has the bredth of talent, and I think he could do it.

As for Italian-looking guys, none come to mind. The guy who played Billy Bats (sp?) in "Goodfellas" comes to mind, but he's not a great actor, and he's already typecast as a mob guy.

I would put money on Dustin Hoffman being able to do a great job, but he looks more Jewish than Italian (probably because he's Jewish).

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Re: Don Corleone contest
« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2011, 05:51:24 AM »
I'm tellin' ya, Gottfried is the next Vito Corleone.  :laugh:
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Re: Don Corleone contest
« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2011, 08:19:45 AM »
I would put money on Dustin Hoffman being able to do a great job, but he looks more Jewish than Italian (probably because he's Jewish).

But then you would have to look at Dustin Hoffman.  =|
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Re: Don Corleone contest
« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2011, 08:52:15 AM »
Definite drawback.  :lol:

BTW Jews and Italians have been passing off as each other forever. Can you say Arthur Fonzerelli? Best story I heard was gramps, who was always dapper in the Vegas / Telly Savalas kind of groove, smoked Benson & Hedges, All class.  ;/

anyhoo, he was on a plane sitting next to a wealthy looking Jewish woman who seemed very interested in him until she found out he was Italian and not Jewish.  :lol:
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Re: Don Corleone contest
« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2011, 05:04:39 PM »
I was gonna nominate Monkeyleg, but then realized that's just an avatar

You you think Joe Piscapo looks old enough now to pull it off?  (if he could play the part straight)
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Re: Don Corleone contest
« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2011, 06:00:46 PM »
I've been spending too much time thinking about this. I agree wholeheartedly that a remake is a horrific idea, and cultural cannibalism is far too endemic already.

That said, finding an actor capable of the simultaneous gravitas and latent menace of Brando is a really fascinating challenge. I submit for your consideration an unconventional notion inspired  by Monkeyleg's post above.

Robert Duvall.

Discuss.
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Re: Don Corleone contest
« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2011, 07:01:54 PM »
Too Irish looking.  =D
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Re: Don Corleone contest
« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2011, 12:30:51 AM »
How about...  Ciarán Hinds?

He's the fellow that played Julius Caesar in Rome.