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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Fitz on October 21, 2014, 06:38:39 PM
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Presented without comment, as unfortunately my current feelings on the subject are not fit for APS
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/10/21/michael-savages-disgusting-rant-ptsd-and-depres/201248
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He's also on record as being vehemently anti Second Amendment. Whatever his thoughts on the border he's still a Berkeley lib at heart.
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Considering the source of the article, I'll take it with a grain of salt, though I already have no respect for davage.
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He's also on record as being vehemently anti Second Amendment. Whatever his thoughts on the border he's still a Berkeley lib at heart.
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Really? Last I heard from Savage he seemed very PRO 2A.
His newest book out is titled, IIRC, something like "How to Stop the Coming Civil War." I don't think that is the exact wording but it atleast conveys the theme.
Savage is hard for me to take. I think he's a very smart individual, but he seems awfully self-absorbed in almost a maudlin way. "I don't wanna talk about this topic today." OK fine -- DON'T. "I can't say 'ebola' or 'Obama.' " You just DID. If you want to talk about whether college degrees are still worth anything then TALK ABOUT THAT!! *CLICK!* Off goes the radio.
I like Rush.
I like our morning guy -- you guys don't know him but he's repetitive ... but I can take him.
I sorta like Mark Levin.
Michael Savage? I can take him for 5 minutes.
As for the linked article, yea, Savage can be tough on PTSD and other things. I didn't see the author charge Savage with hypocrisy which seems to me the most defensible complaint one might have on him, but, then I think the author of the screed is probably also a maudlin complainer.
He listens to Savage~~
And "misery loves company."
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Considering the source of the article, I'll take it with a grain of salt, though I already have no respect for davage.
I agree, so I just skipped all the editorializing and just read the transcript. Assuming they haven't edited the transcript (and as much as I hate media matters it does not appear they did).
Savage publicly called for banning "assault rifles."
http://jpfo.org/articles-assd/zelman-open-letter-msavage.htm
http://jpfo.org/articles-assd/michael-savage.wnd.htm
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..... Savage publicly called for banning "assault rifles."
http://jpfo.org/articles-assd/zelman-open-letter-msavage.htm
http://jpfo.org/articles-assd/michael-savage.wnd.htm
OK, I note those are a few years old. I wonder if Savage has altered his belief about "assault weapons" since then. Bill O'Rielly of Fox News had his views on the second amendment altered by what happened during Katrina in New Orleans.
But I am not going to bust my buns to find out what Savage has changed abvout his philosophy -- if I really followed him more on the radio, maybe I'd care more.
But I don't. So I don't care. :-*
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I flatly don't believe any politician or entertainer who "changes their mind" when it's expedient for them. Many conservatives agreed with me when the person in question was John Kerry, but changed their tune when it was Mitt Romney. Strange how that works.
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I dunno.... As far as O'Rielly is concerned I can see how viewing what happened in "Nawlins" could get him to rethink his position.
As for Mitt Romney ..... you're gonna have to be a bit more specific though I take it you might be refering to him being against Obamacare as national policy when he put a similar program in place in Massachusetts. While I can point out he defended that as being a state thing and was against it as national policy, I well understand the cynicism that many people felt about that.
As for Savage .... I still am not giving a damn.
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If savage was talking about police and ptsd, I would agree with him. Its pretty much standard procedure gor police to claim ptsd and go on permanent disability if there is any possibilty that they are about to be investigated for brutality or a bad shoot, or if they are just lazy slugs.
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I dunno.... As far as O'Rielly is concerned I can see how viewing what happened in "Nawlins" could get him to rethink his position.
As for Mitt Romney ..... you're gonna have to be a bit more specific though I take it you might be refering to him being against Obamacare as national policy when he put a similar program in place in Massachusetts. While I can point out he defended that as being a state thing and was against it as national policy, I well understand the cynicism that many people felt about that.
As for Savage .... I still am not giving a damn.
He was the architect of Obamacare, his whole "I love socialist medicine!" when he was in MA attitude rather undermines his "I hate socialist medicine!" stance when he was running for the WH.
Ditto his signing an AWB in MA.
Ditto his pro-abortion stance changing when it became politically convenient.
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As much as it disgusted me that the Republican Party put Mitt "ORomneycare" Romney on the ballot (and they did lose my vote, on that one), I must protest any comparison between Mitt and Michael Savage. Savage is just
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He's a shock jock attention whore. Not even worth further comment.
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I can't stand his damn voice, let alone his bullshit radio show.
Don't really care for OReilly or Beck either.
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What killed me, when I used to listen to him, were the empty-headers that would call him up, and tell him he was the most brilliant man on the planet, and the only one who understands the everything. :facepalm:
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He was the architect of Obamacare, his whole "I love socialist medicine!" when he was in MA attitude rather undermines his "I hate socialist medicine!" stance when he was running for the WH.
Ditto his signing an AWB in MA.
Ditto his pro-abortion stance changing when it became politically convenient.
I think Romney's association with Obamacare has been highly exaggerated. Not saying I like it.
As for signing an AWB, yeah, Massachusetts has become a rather blue state.
There's the rub.
Would he have been Reagan, Part II?
No.
But he would have been light-years better than what we have now.
Still trying to give a damn about Savage.
Failing.
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In my occupation and with former employers and even family, I have run into a lot or really smart people. Some with more than one (verified) PhD. The really smart ones don't usually bring up their education in the course of conversation or even during "teachable moments". The butt heads, like the fore-mentioned radio personality, often do so.
It is also important to remember that "air personalities" regardless of their political persuasion, are there to sell product and make money. They are entertainers, not philosophers.
Russ
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I think Romney's association with Obamacare has been highly exaggerated.
Probably. Any association was unacceptable in 2012.
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Still trying to give a damn about Savage.
Failing.
If you don't give a damn, why do you continue to remind us that you don't give a damn?
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I think Romney's association with Obamacare has been highly exaggerated. Not saying I like it.
As for signing an AWB, yeah, Massachusetts has become a rather blue state.
There's the rub.
Would he have been Reagan, Part II?
No.
But he would have been light-years better than what we have now.
Still trying to give a damn about Savage.
Failing.
I think he might have been significantly worse. With a Democrat in the White House the GOP is willing to put up a fight. With Romney, I'm willing to bet Sandy Hook et al would have led to some "common sense gun safety" legislation that would've been whipped through. It's bipartisan!
You sure do talk a lot for a guy who keeps bragging about how little he cares.
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As much as it disgusted me that the Republican Party put Mitt "ORomneycare" Romney on the ballot (and they did lose my vote, on that one), I must protest any comparison between Mitt and Michael Savage. Savage is just
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The only point of comparison was that I don't trust either of them.
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He's a shock jock attention whore. Not even worth further comment.
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I used to think he was smart when he wasn't yelling, but realized when he wasn't yelling, he was just talking about how great he was.
I seem to remember that late in the Iraq War he was talking about how he was RIGHT and if they had only followed his advice, the insurgency would be done. What he did say is his only suggestion before was to nuke the entire place. He rewrites his own history so he believes he was always right.
(I used to have a 1 hour commute at 5 PM. My favorite radio show was always getting preempted by baseball games and Savage was the only other thing to listen to. I usually lasted no more than 15 minutes.)
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If you don't give a damn, why do you continue to remind us that you don't give a damn?
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It was an afterthought. :angel:
I think he might have been significantly worse. With a Democrat in the White House the GOP is willing to put up a fight. With Romney, I'm willing to bet Sandy Hook et al would have led to some "common sense gun safety" legislation that would've been whipped through. It's bipartisan!
I don't see the GOP putting up a really good fight as it is. I think General Custer did a better job of "fighting" at the Little Bighorn. Getting GOP into power is not enough; RINOS will sell out every trip of the train.
What we need (and do not have) are conservatives who will fight.
You sure do talk a lot for a guy who keeps bragging about how little he cares.
Yea.... I'm quit the blabbermouth. OTOH what I really don't care about is Michael Savage. In general I think I would mostly agree with him (except on gun control if what I've read from posted links is still valid) but his ... "shtick" varies from the irritating to the intolerable.
He was on the radio years ago and I gave him a chance then. I don't know how or why he came back, or what happened to Sean Hannity (another mediocre radio blabbermouth [popcorn] ) to allow Savage to usurp his 2-5PM CST hours.
But, yeah, I'll blab on and on on many subjects .... :angel: :laugh:
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Not too surprised. Savage often (always?) runs off at the mouth, and this isn't a particularly rare viewpoint - he's just willing to admit it in public. Fact is, people who've never experienced something have little capacity to understand how that thing works, and this lack of experience rarely stops them from having an opinion (especially a strong one) on the subject.
I would love for Savage to explain how Audie Murphy was a spineless whiny little weakling, what with how he admitted his PTSD issues to the whole country.