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Vegans can do anything!
« on: May 23, 2016, 10:53:09 AM »
Including die on Mt. Everest:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/woman-who-died-mount-everest-8030378
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A woman who died climbing Mount Everest wanted to complete the mission to "prove that vegans aren't weak".

Maria Strydom fell unwell due to altitude sickness and died from lack of oxygen on Saturday.

She had been climbing with her husband Robert Gropel when she felt ill while descending the summit.

The 34-year-old university lecturer, who lived in Melbourne, Australia, was the second person to die on the world's highest mountain in days.

According to reports, she had previously told of how she wanted to prove that vegans weren't "weak or malnourished".


I guess she didn't consider what happens if she fails...
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Re: Vegans can do anything!
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2016, 10:55:56 AM »
If there's any activity where your body could use a lot of fats and protein...
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Re: Vegans can do anything!
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2016, 11:05:15 AM »
She was probably busy telling everyone that she was a vegan and not breathing enough oxygen like she should've.   =D

My niece is essentially doing a vegan/vegetarian diet right now, but refuses to call it that as she doesn't want to be associated with that crowd. 
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Re: Vegans can do anything!
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2016, 11:59:57 AM »
So Everest is not a safe space, where all my precious notions will be affirmed. Useful info.

I wonder if there are other vegans who've survived the climb, but just haven't been so annoying about it.
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« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2016, 12:06:55 PM »
She was probably busy telling everyone that she was a vegan and not breathing enough oxygen like she should've.

And how she trained for the climb by driving her Prius to the Crossfit gym.

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Re: Vegans can do anything!
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2016, 12:21:03 PM »
She was probably busy telling everyone that she was a vegan and not breathing enough oxygen like she should've.   =D

I am a bad man for laughing at that.
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« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2016, 12:23:31 PM »

I wonder if there are other vegans who've survived the climb, but just haven't been so annoying about it.

I wouldn't be surprised. While I don't consider the vegan lifestyle all that healthy for an omnivore, I'm sure there are supplements and targeted diets that would provide the energy a non-annoying vegan would need to make the climb. No disrespect to the dead, but you have to wonder how much physical prep she did vs social prep.
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Re: Vegans can do anything!
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2016, 12:26:50 PM »
Including die on Mt. Everest:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/woman-who-died-mount-everest-8030378

I guess she didn't consider what happens if she fails...

I'd imagine she had the basic idea, but failed to grasp the meat of the matter.
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Re: Vegans can do anything!
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2016, 12:54:40 PM »
If she died from HAPE (high altitude pulmonary edema) or HACE (high altitude cerebral edema), I wouldn't think her nutrition status had a lot to do with it.
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Re: Vegans can do anything!
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2016, 01:13:33 PM »
The article says she died while "descending the summit." That would seem to imply that she made it all the way up, and that could be why she's shown flashing a "V" sign in the photo with her husband toward the end of the article. Of course, if that photo was taken at the summit, they were at 29,000 feet and not wearing oxygen masks. Small wonder they experienced "altitude sickness." Back when I was young and healthy, I felt light-headed and had other symptoms at the summit of Pike's Peak, and that's only 14,000 feet.

So, if she made it to the summit and died on the way down, did she prove her point, or fail?
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« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2016, 01:25:11 PM »
Hawkmoon, is you even serious, dude? Dying is not a good way to prove one's strength.

I also noticed she was descending. I assumed she turned back short of the summit, but you could be right about her making it all the way. Still died, though, so she didn't prove her point.
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Re: Vegans can do anything!
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2016, 01:35:00 PM »
So, how about all of the carnivores who have crapped out under similar circumstances while mountain climbing?

What does that prove?

That eating meat makes you weak?

Or that there really are some places you shouldn't go and things you shouldn't do? 
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Re: Vegans can do anything!
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2016, 01:41:03 PM »
Dying is not a good way to prove one's strength.

Depends largely on how you die.  For example, if you have a heart attack while doing a victory dance after choking out a polar bear.

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I also noticed she was descending. I assumed she turned back short of the summit, but you could be right about her making it all the way. Still died, though, so she didn't prove her point.

That depends on perspective; she never said she was going to come back alive to prove how strong vegans are, just that she was going to summit Everest.

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Re: Vegans can do anything!
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2016, 02:15:44 PM »
So, how about all of the carnivores who have crapped out under similar circumstances while mountain climbing?

What does that prove?

That eating meat makes you weak?

Or that there really are some places you shouldn't go and things you shouldn't do?  

I think this episode says precisely zero about a vegan diet, and a lot about taking unnecessary risks.

In the news, two others died this weekend on Everest as well. (I think I can safely assume neither one of them were Vegans precisely because I don't know what their preferred diets are.)

Which is why I made a post that Vegans1 can die on Everest... leaving out, of course, just like all the other foolish people who die there.



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Re: Vegans can do anything!
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2016, 04:19:31 PM »
Hawkmoon, is you even serious, dude? Dying is not a good way to prove one's strength.

I'm supposed to be serious? Here, on APS?

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Re: Vegans can do anything!
« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2016, 05:23:30 PM »
Depends largely on how you die.  For example, if you have a heart attack while doing a victory dance after choking out a polar bear.

No. That is the wrong answer.


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That depends on perspective; she never said she was going to come back alive to prove how strong vegans are, just that she was going to summit Everest.


That is also the wrong answer.



So, how about all of the carnivores who have crapped out under similar circumstances while mountain climbing?

What does that prove?

That eating meat makes you weak?

Or that there really are some places you shouldn't go and things you shouldn't do? 

If those meat-eaters made noises about proving the strength of meat-eaters, I suppose they'd look equally foolish. But at least they might have had a few decent meals.

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Re: Vegans can do anything!
« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2016, 05:25:56 PM »
"If those meat-eaters made noises about proving the strength of meat-eaters, I suppose they'd look equally foolish. But at least they might have had a few decent meals."

Yeah... they NEVER do...



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Re: Vegans can do anything!
« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2016, 05:51:16 PM »
BACON!

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Re: Vegans can do anything!
« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2016, 05:56:38 PM »
Well, the Vegan community can check off the "Die on Everest" box.
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Re: Vegans can do anything!
« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2016, 06:13:48 PM »
"But at least they might have had a few decent meals."

Yeah... they NEVER do...



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« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2016, 08:03:19 PM »
The only things I took away from this thread:

(A)  Passionate self-righteous people are a pain in the ass. (Reconfirmed.)

(B)  Summit is now a verb.

WHATEVER YOUR DEFINITION OF "INFRINGE " IS, YOU SHOULDN'T BE DOING IT.

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« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2016, 07:47:32 AM »
Summit has been a verb for a couple of decades now.

Google it. :rofl:
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« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2016, 09:08:04 AM »
Summit has been a verb for a couple of decades now.

Google it. :rofl:


I see eyeballed what you did doingsed there.


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« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2016, 09:25:00 AM »
verbification is stupidifying.
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Re: Vegans can do anything!
« Reply #24 on: May 25, 2016, 11:44:15 AM »
I am sorried, but I never decaded summit.

And I never summited a bicycle or horse.

Nor have I ever desummited either of them.  Ummm, "dissummited" one?
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