PSA AR15 for $328.

[Pb]

Complete Glock clone lowers for $50.  I'm not sure how they are doing this.

I remember when AK-47s were cheap and AR15s were expensive.

https://palmettostatearmory.com/daily-deals-new.html?avad=234121_d31bda039&utm_source=Avantlink&utm_medium=Referral&utm_campaign=cl

[sumpnz]

I weep for my state.

[K Frame]

I weep for my state.

[WLJ]

Yeah, me too.
Maybe that was posted in the wrong thread?

[Ben]

WA has an "assault weapons" ban.

[Nick1911]

That link doesn't work for me, btw.  Good thing too, I don't need any more guns

[WLJ]

Ah! He's in Washington.
That sucks
Beautiful state, sucky laws

[Pb]

That link doesn't work for me, btw.  Good thing too, I don't need any more guns

Works for me now.

[Tuco]

Is a PSA AR a serviceable rifle? Are they know to be reliable?
Because a 350 dollar AR is pretty attractive.
A 350 dollar AR that requires a few simple mods is an unreliable rife.

Any experiences?

[WLJ]

Is a PSA AR a serviceable rifle? Are they know to be reliable?
Because a 350 dollar AR is pretty attractive.
A 350 dollar AR that requires a few simple mods is an unreliable rife.

Any experiences?

PSAs are usually considered decent rifles.

[Ben]

I got the, I forget if it was called the freedom rifle or classic rifle kit, built it around a $50 Anderson lower, and it has just worked.

It was actually my first build. The parts aren't top quality, but the parts are, in general, good quality, and work. Now that I've built more rifles, there are a few parts I would change out having found personal favorites in things like triggers and selectors, but for a basic AR, PSA has great deals and the parts are decent quality. JMO.

[MillCreek]

I weep for my state.

You don't weep alone.

[Tuco]

psa is breddygud

Thanks guys!  Don't know exactly what I will do with that info, but thanks!

[Ben]

Thanks guys!  Don't know exactly what I will do with that info, but thanks!

I reckon everybody needs at least one PSA AR. If nothing else, as a beater or loaner for friends learning to shoot or the zombie apocalypse. Plus the whole "mail order rifle kit for cheap" sticks it to the man and to David Hogg. 

[WLJ]

I reckon everybody needs at least one PSA AR. If nothing else, as a beater or loaner for friends learning to shoot or the zombie apocalypse. Plus the whole "mail order rifle kit for cheap" sticks it to the man and to David Hogg. 

And if you have trouble assembling it shoot Hogg a message. He's the expert on everything

[Tuco]

As far as anyone knows I've never built and troubleshot ARs.
But a store bought one or three looks attractive.

[dogmush]

Is a PSA AR a serviceable rifle? Are they know to be reliable?
Because a 350 dollar AR is pretty attractive.
A 350 dollar AR that requires a few simple mods is an unreliable rife.

Any experiences?

The cheap PSA's are a solid entry level AR.  It won't be amazing, but it'll be reliable, if a over-gassed, and it'll shoot ball ammo to about 4 ish MOA.  The barrel's nitrided on the freedom series not chrome lined, and not the FN Cold Hammer Forged barrels of their more expensive stuff.

PSA uses a Carpenter 158 bolt and a full inspected M16 bolt carrier on even their cheap builds, so that's good. 

The trigger group will be mil spec ish, and probably a little crunchy, but perfectly serviceable.  Plastic mil-spec iish furniture.

From what I've seen, The springs wear out a faster than the really nice brands, and since the tolerances are a little looser the whole gun will wear out a little faster.  I have a freedom series upper I built from a kit, and while I don't shoot it as much as my main guns, I can see it wearing a little faster.  In real world terms, just going by my estimates of wear, I'd expect one of the $350 Freedom series guns to need you to look at the extractor spring and extractor buffer, the buffer spring, and maybe the ejector spring and bolt gas rings somewhere around 5000-7000 rds.  They run them over gassed for reliability with all kinds of cheap ammo, so it's a little harder on the bolt parts. I'd also want to keep an eye on the bolt carrier key for the same overgassing reason

But it'll be a serviceable, if plain jane, gun up to then, and those parts are pretty trivial to replace if they do go bad.

If it's all you can afford for HD, or you want a spare gun, I wouldn't hesitate to grab one.  If you think you are going to get in to serious shooting (several thousand rounds a year, matches, carbine courses, stuff like that) I would say you'd be better served getting a nicer gun.  Both because the gun will last longer and be more pleasant to shoot, and because you'll end up swapping a lot of parts off that freedom series M4 to bring it up to modern fighting rifle snuff, so you won't save that much in the end.

[K Frame]

WA has an "assault weapons" ban.

Ah. There's the missing bit of information we needed to understand the context.

[JTHunter]

I weep for my state.

Imagine what it is like in IL-ANNOY with "Jabba" as governor.   

[MechAg94]

PSA has the $90 nickel boron BCG as well.  They and others have lots of AR parts pretty cheap the last few months.  I have even seen sales on Daniel Defense and Geissele rifles this week.  I guess the AR market is at a low point.  Now is the time to get what you want if you haven't already. 

I got one of these a few weeks ago.  It was $550 and is now the cheapest AR I own.  Shot pretty well for the few rounds I shot. 
https://www.classicfirearms.com/anderson-mfg-a4-rifle-length-gas-system-ar-15-dissipator-semi-auto-5-56-nato-16-bbl-a2-front-sight-flip-up-rear-6-position-30-rd-b2-k850-a016/

[French G.]

Damn. I have zero need to finish my second Glock mag carbine. But they have cheap 9mm uppers.

[Ben]

Man, now I'm thinking about a PSA rifle kit buy for the Anderson lower I have laying around. Especially because as mentioned, ARs are cheap again right now. I, like many, was kicking myself about not buying more bulk ammo when ammo was in a dirt cheap "cycle" just before the covids. I can certainly see ARs getting expensive again soon, with the politics and such.

Though all my high end AR-ish rifles right now are PWS piston guns. I've also been thinking about either building or buying a mid-high end DI AR - maybe just grabbing an off the rack BCM and calling it good, or building another lower and putting a BCM upper on it.

[MechAg94]

PSA AR-10.  Complete Upper:  $370.  Complete lower:  $170

https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-gen3-pa10-16-mid-length-nitride-308-win-1-10-classic-upper-with-bcg-ch-black.html?avad=190366_d31c624a9&utm_source=Avantlink&utm_medium=Referral&utm_campaign=el


https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-gen3-pa10-308-complete-classic-ept-lower-receiver.html?avad=190366_b31c99179&utm_source=Avantlink&utm_medium=Referral&utm_campaign=el

[dogmush]

^^^

Just be aware that large frame ARs don't have a Spec"  and PSA .308 stuff is only guaranteed to work with PSA .308 stuff. You won't be able to play AR legos quite as freely with that gun.

[MechAg94]

^^^

Just be aware that large frame ARs don't have a Spec"  and PSA .308 stuff is only guaranteed to work with PSA .308 stuff. You won't be able to play AR legos quite as freely with that gun.

Sure, which is why you would get both the upper and lower from PSA.  The same can be said for an AR-10 platform from another company.  If you want to play with upgrades, that is another question.  This just lets someone get into a semi-auto 308 on the cheap.