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Title: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: Ben on July 09, 2021, 07:37:15 PM
The FBI apparently set up a fake store that sold secure encrypted phones. Ostensibly to catch organized crime guys.

I know we here (including me) have in the past discussed trading our phones in for Google free secure phones. Now it appears you really have to research who you would by one of those from. They also supplied a secure messaging app with it, so even those are suspect now unless thoroughly researched.

https://gizmodo.com/the-fbis-fake-encrypted-honeypot-phones-are-showing-up-1847252989
Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: Grandpa Shooter on July 09, 2021, 09:00:41 PM
Big Brother is everywhere these days.  Welcome to 1984.  Public spy cameras, smart TV's, tracking cell phones, you name it, they can and will do it.
Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: HankB on July 10, 2021, 12:04:43 AM
Sounds like there's potential to have a lot of fun with an "encrypted" phone you know - know! - is being monitored.
Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: WLJ on July 10, 2021, 12:15:15 AM
Right now some FBI agent is looking in my phone and muttering to himself "More *expletive deleted*ing cat photos"
Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: RoadKingLarry on July 10, 2021, 10:32:03 AM
Sounds like there's potential to have a lot of fun with an "encrypted" phone you know - know! - is being monitored.

Get a couple of friends and start planning the alien invasion and discussing interdimensional travelers.
Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: HankB on July 10, 2021, 01:27:03 PM
Get a couple of friends and start planning the alien invasion and discussing interdimensional travelers.
Better to keep things down to earth and make it plausible - drop names. ("Hunter" . . . "Mr.Big" . . . "You mean Hunter's Daddy?" . . . "If you overpay for a painting, it's not a bribe" . . . "Nancy from California and Chuck from New York" . . . )
Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: RocketMan on July 10, 2021, 02:26:09 PM
Better to keep things down to earth and make it plausible - drop names. ("Hunter" . . . "Mr.Big" . . . "You mean Hunter's Daddy?" . . . "If you overpay for a painting, it's not a bribe" . . . "Nancy from California and Chuck from New York" . . . )

It wouldn't do any good.  You would just be informing the FBI about what they need to cover up next.
Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: TommyGunn on July 10, 2021, 06:39:52 PM
"Open channel D."    =D   [tinfoil]
Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: RoadKingLarry on July 10, 2021, 06:41:32 PM
The chair has a long mustache.
Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: RoadKingLarry on July 10, 2021, 06:44:22 PM
Climb Mount Niitaka
Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: Jim147 on July 10, 2021, 07:14:53 PM
The chair has a long mustache.

How many lights does the chair see?
Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: HankB on July 10, 2021, 07:39:27 PM
The chair has a long mustache.
John is against the wall?

Wonder how many of this forum's youngsters got "Open Channel D" or "Climb Mount Niitaka" without resorting to Google . . .
Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: 230RN on July 10, 2021, 07:47:35 PM
Sounds like there's potential to have a lot of fun with an "encrypted" phone you know - know! - is being monitored.

Sounds to me like that would have the same consequences as joking about boombs in an aerodrome or some other things.  "Just for fun" doesn't go as far as it used to.

  :tinfoil: The misspelling was deliberate.  :cool:

I seem to rek'lect when it was illegal for the U.S. government to spy on U.S. citizens so the U.S. enlisted Great Britain to do the actual spying and report back to the U.S.

Where there's a kill, there's a way.

Terry, 230RN
Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: MechAg94 on July 10, 2021, 11:23:37 PM
John is against the wall?

Wonder how many of this forum's youngsters got "Open Channel D" or "Climb Mount Niitaka" without resorting to Google . . .
I am sure I have come across that in a past movie or documentary, but it wasn't a detail that ever stood out.
Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: 230RN on July 10, 2021, 11:34:56 PM
I am sure I have come across that in a past movie or documentary, but it wasn't a detail that ever stood out.

Well, for other readers of the forum, the thing is, it's been repeated a lot on this board, especially around June 6, D-day, but it has spread to anytime coding or secrecy is involved.

It refers to the coded messages the BBC was sending to the French underground.  "John (Jean) has a long moustache" was one of the phrases and "The chair is against the wall" was another.  The movie was "The Longest Day."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Longest_Day_(film)

Terry, 230RN

Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: MechAg94 on July 10, 2021, 11:39:51 PM
I was talking about "Climb Mount Niitaka". 

The others sounded like some variation of Red Dawn quotes.   =)
Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: WLJ on July 10, 2021, 11:43:37 PM
I was talking about "Climb Mount Niitaka". 


Coded message sent to the Kido Butai (Japanese 1st air fleet) to proceed with the Pearl Harbor attack. And no I did not need to look that up.
Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: MechAg94 on July 10, 2021, 11:46:51 PM
Coded message sent to the Kido Butai (Japanese 1st air fleet) to proceed with the Pearl Harbor attack. And no I did not need to look that up.
I already looked it up.  I didn't want to spoil everyone else's fun.   =)
Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: WLJ on July 10, 2021, 11:59:49 PM
I already looked it up.  I didn't want to spoil everyone else's fun.   =)

I figure anyone who didn't know and wanted to already looked it up.

How about a little related trivia? Included with the message was the date the PH attack was to occur on, what was the date in the message?
Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: Hawkmoon on July 11, 2021, 02:08:07 AM
I figure anyone who didn't know and wanted to already looked it up.

How about a little related trivia? Included with the message was the date the PH attack was to occur on, what was the date in the message?

I know the answer but, like Stringfellow Hawke's pilot buddy in Airwolf, I ain't sayin'."
Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: RocketMan on July 11, 2021, 08:19:46 AM
Got all the references.  I guess that makes me an "Olde Pharte".
Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: Andiron on July 11, 2021, 10:08:51 AM
In the spirit of fairplay/not looking it up,  what was "Open Channel D"?

 Got the rest because I'm an old movie/history channel nerd.
Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: 230RN on July 11, 2021, 10:39:39 AM
I already looked it up.  I didn't want to spoil everyone else's fun.   =)

Oh, was tht supposed to be one of those "I know something you don't know" seekrits?  Sorry.  Loose keyboards sink ships. 

D'ja get that one?  Huh?  Huh?  D'ja get it? <elbow dig> <elbow dig>

I didn't get the Channel D one, had to look it up.  I did not like that show, so didn't watch it enough to catch that one.

Sorry to spoil everyone's fun.  Now you know why I don't get invited to parties.

Terry, pooper thereof, 230RN

Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: WLJ on July 11, 2021, 10:42:24 AM
Sorry
Edit: For spoiling the Climb Mount Niitaka bit
Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: 230RN on July 11, 2021, 10:58:11 AM
Sorry

Yeah.  LIked your cat remark.  All the FBI gets lately from my phone with Son2 is conversation about the 6.5 Creedmoor rifle he is building.

He was surprised to learn what Creedmoor meant and that I actually worked at Creedmoor State Hospital in 1963, which is what it ultimately became after they closed down the shooting range due to increasing population density out there on Long Island.

Claim to fame:  It was only a bus ride for me to get to Creedmoor Hospital, where the National Matches used to be held. <pats own back>

Terry, 230RN
Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: HankB on July 11, 2021, 01:33:45 PM
In the spirit of fairplay/not looking it up,  what was "Open Channel D"?

 Got the rest because I'm an old movie/history channel nerd.
Those words were the way Napoleon Solo - The Man From U.N.C.L.E. - began his radio calls. (His radio was built into a pen.)
Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: Andiron on July 11, 2021, 01:37:30 PM
Ah,  never saw that one. 
Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: 230RN on July 11, 2021, 11:13:19 PM
Posted on wrong thread. Duh, me.
Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: HeroHog on July 11, 2021, 11:27:06 PM
Those words were the way Napoleon Solo - The Man From U.N.C.L.E. - began his radio calls. (His radio was built into a pen.)

I LOVED "The Man From U.N.C.L.E."! I even had the gun/briefcase toy.

Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: Bogie on July 12, 2021, 12:30:12 AM
I did too! I wish I still had it. I think I  had it because of my father...
Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: HeroHog on July 13, 2021, 08:13:24 PM
Illya Kuryakin (David McCallum) was my favorite.
Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: HankB on July 13, 2021, 09:26:56 PM
Illya Kuryakin (David McCallum) was my favorite.
Didn't he look a lot like a young Dr. Mallard ("Ducky") on NCIS?
Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: Hawkmoon on July 13, 2021, 09:34:29 PM
Didn't he look a lot like a young Dr. Mallard ("Ducky") on NCIS?

Strictly a coincidence, I'm sure.
Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 13, 2021, 10:25:57 PM
Illya Kuryakin (David McCallum) was my favorite.

Did you see "Mosquito Squadron"? I just came across it on Youtube, and kind of enjoyed it.
Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: Jim147 on July 13, 2021, 10:42:20 PM
Driving home tonight I saw the city or rodeo board was installing internet on the town square. I'm thinking at the end of the month there will be one or two FBI surveillance vans set up on that wifi. I need to see what I have here.
Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: BobR on July 14, 2021, 12:20:18 AM
Driving home tonight I saw the city or rodeo board was installing internet on the town square. I'm thinking at the end of the month there will be one or two FBI surveillance vans set up on that wifi. I need to see what I have here.

Stingray, Cellhawk, they have been listening for years. Don't know why the felt the need to push a phone.

bob
Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: HeroHog on July 14, 2021, 04:48:00 AM
Didn't he look a lot like a young Dr. Mallard ("Ducky") on NCIS?
Naaaaaaaw, Illya Kuryakin was MUCH younger...
Title: Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
Post by: JTHunter on July 15, 2021, 11:29:07 PM
Climb Mount Niitaka

TORA! TORA! TORA!
A good movie.
  =D