Post by: Perd Hapley on October 26, 2006, 03:35:29 AM
You?
Post by: TarpleyG on October 26, 2006, 03:51:34 AM
Greg
Post by: Werewolf on October 26, 2006, 03:53:29 AM
Who are you referring to?
Post by: BryanP on October 26, 2006, 04:00:33 AM
The pill-head part doesn't bother me. Other than the hypocrisy he's evidenced on the subject in the past.
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 26, 2006, 04:15:26 AM
Hey, Brian, your radio has a volume control. I've never noticed that he's louder than other radio hosts, but keep in mind he's partially deaf. I also remember how he used to say that anyone abusing prescription pain-killers should be shot in the forehead without trial. Hypocrite.
Post by: Moondoggie on October 26, 2006, 04:24:26 AM
Guys in the office listened to him every day once upon a time (early 90's).
I lost interest mostly because it takes him forever to get to the point.
Post by: ilbob on October 26, 2006, 04:43:05 AM
I do. Listen to him whenever possible.
You?
You?
I used to listen to him all the time. He was hilariously funny when lampooning the dems and libs when they were in power. That is/was his forte.
I listen to him less these days because he is just not as good as when the Clintons were in office. They just provided so much material that he almost couldn't help being good.
I find it odd that people claim all kinds of things about his political views that just plain are not so. He is very clearly not a big fan of many of W's policies, other than the WOT, and makes it no secret.
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 26, 2006, 05:09:00 AM
I find it odd that people claim all kinds of things about his political views that just plain are not so. He is very clearly not a big fan of many of W's policies, other than the WOT, and makes it no secret.
I don't think it's odd - it's pretty common in political discourse. I think some people are so put off by W, and are so convinced he is guilty of various conspiracies, that they can't interpret Limbaugh's defense of him as anything but bought-and-paid-for schilling or slavish devotion to authority. The same was true of Clinton.
Post by: Dannyboy on October 26, 2006, 05:21:44 AM
Post by: grampster on October 26, 2006, 05:24:53 AM
Something that Rush does that is valuable to me is how he exposes the MSM's tendency to spin, create or manipulate information to create in issue that does not necessarily exist. We now have a counter point to that with talk radio, blogs, and the creation of alternative news outlets on cable. I think Rush was the moving force behind all of that.
A prime example of this manipulation is the Michael J Fox incident. The MSM is portraying Rush as an insensitive boob who is picking on a sick guy. I actually was listening to Rush when he began taliking about this political ad.
Rush made a couple of valid points. He said Mr. Fox was either off his meds or was acting. Mr. Fox himself has admitted when he makes appeals on behalf of his illness, he does stop his meds so that people can see the devastation of his disease. Mr. Fox is an actor. That is what he does. Rush's point is that it is one thing to be go public to promote a thing, but it is quite another when one uses one's illness to promote a political viewpoint, especially if that viewpoint is not accurate, but is rather political propaganda. His ads are that; inaccurate and propaganda. Rush went on to say that Mr. Fox might be being exploited by the democrats. He also was very clear in that everyone would like to see devastating diseases conquered and Mr. Fox, specifically, be cured. Rush imho opinion is sensitive to Mr. Fox's problem, but pointed out Mr. Fox, in how the ad was construced, alluded to the fact that republicans apparently don't want to see diseases cured or worse.
In my view, after listening to Rush's comments when he said them, and listenting to the ad, Mr. Fox, imho, insulted a lot of Americans with what he alluded to in his ad.
In other words, what is being said about Limbaugh by the MSM and the usual media suspects is not what he said, nor how he said it. I heard it with my own ears. Rush also said that what they are saying about him, would be said in the way that he said he would be portrayed by them. They did not disappoint him.
Rush may have his faults, but understanding leftists and statists and is not one of them. He is always spot on in that regard. I think we need to be reminded of what leftists and statists stand for from time to time. It's too easy to believe the lie.
Post by: Fly320s on October 26, 2006, 05:31:39 AM
I'll listen to Limbaugh if I can't find a Boortz station around me, but Boortz is my main man. He's libertarian in politics, if you're interested.
Post by: StopTheGrays on October 26, 2006, 05:37:16 AM
I also remember how he used to say that anyone abusing prescription pain-killers should be shot in the forehead without trial. Hypocrite.
Have a link or anything to support that? He may have said something like that about people who abuse illegal drugs but I cannot prove that either.
Post by: The Rabbi on October 26, 2006, 05:37:59 AM
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 26, 2006, 05:40:05 AM
I also remember how he used to say that anyone abusing prescription pain-killers should be shot in the forehead without trial. Hypocrite.
Have a link or anything to support that? He may have said something like that about people who abuse illegal drugs but I cannot prove that either.The MSM does not care what Limbaugh said about MJ Fox or what he meant. Any criticism of someone like Fox or Sheehan or the family of 11 Sept. victims fits the MSM's template of mean-spiritedness. This is the only way they can interpret it. Or it could be that they are creating a scandal for their own pocket-books. Perhaps both.
What is really ironic is that Rush (the supposed propagandist) has been instrumental in creating skepticism about all information media, himself included. How many people were blindly accepting what Dan Rather had to say, before Rush and other talkers called him into question? There were accusations of media bias before, but Rush made it mainstream.
Post by: cordex on October 26, 2006, 06:28:19 AM
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He's never said anything like that about anyone.
Nope. His position on drugs was limiting to being strongly opposed to legalization, supportive of existing laws, and supportive of increasing enforcement of drug laws amongst white-collar users.I don't care much for the guy, but every now and again he'll say something very worthwhile.
Post by: Sergeant Bob on October 26, 2006, 06:32:32 AM
He's a pretty good showman and he's just downright funny (a hell of a lot funnier than Al Franken and his group of sycophants ever thought of being).
When I first listened to him I couldn't stand his self agrandization and arrogance, then I grew a sense of humor.
Post by: Mannlicher on October 26, 2006, 06:54:43 AM
Post by: HankB on October 26, 2006, 07:16:34 AM
It doesn't matter that it's actually true, it gets repetitious.
Unless he was deliberately being satirical, I've yet to hear Rush deliberately put out false information . . . unlike dominant media icons such as Dan "Forged Documents from a Dead Man" Rather and Tom "Exploding Pickups and Assault Weapons" Brokaw.
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 26, 2006, 07:37:16 AM
When I first listened to him I couldn't stand his self agrandization and arrogance, then I grew a sense of humor.
You do have to listen a while to understand the joke.I listen to him less these days because he is just not as good as when the Clintons were in office. They just provided so much material that he almost couldn't help being good.
They're still providing material. Limbaugh submits that leftists are loonier when they are out of power. I started this thread because when Blackburn was testing the new security features, he kept claiming that all of us are "doing what the fat pill-head tells us to."
I thought I'd see what APS members thought about FPH. You may now return to your regularly-scheduled groupthink.
Post by: Declaration Day on October 26, 2006, 09:06:22 AM
I don't fault him for the painkiller "scandal". People make mistakes. Atleast he was man enough to admit it.
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 26, 2006, 09:13:18 AM
I listen to him less these days because he is just not as good as when the Clintons were in office. They just provided so much material that he almost couldn't help being good.
They're still providing material. Limbaugh submits that leftists are loonier when they are out of power.
Post by: wingnutx on October 26, 2006, 09:47:53 AM
Hugh Hewitt has a great show, and so does Dennis Prager. Liddy & Hill are pretty good.
I listen to a lot of NPR, too.
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 26, 2006, 11:07:00 AM
I thought I'd see what APS members thought about FPH. You may now return to your regularly-scheduled groupthink.
Post by: Standing Wolf on October 26, 2006, 04:51:47 PM
Post by: Modifiedbrowning on October 26, 2006, 04:59:40 PM
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I also remember how he used to say that anyone abusing prescription pain-killers should be shot in the forehead without trial. Hypocrite.
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He's never said anything like that about anyone.
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I guess my sarcasm meter isn't turned on tonight. I also missed the reference to Rosie. Mea Culpa.
Post by: Ron on October 26, 2006, 05:17:51 PM
He is just another voice offering his opinion, I think his analysis is often spot on.
The ones denouncing Rush are usually leftists or those repeating what they have heard about him when not having listened to him themselves.
Post by: BakerMikeRomeo on October 26, 2006, 09:56:24 PM
~GnSx
Post by: Gewehr98 on October 27, 2006, 07:08:48 AM
I though Rosie was off her lithium meds for now...