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Re: Probing the APS bank of knowledge
« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2012, 06:57:38 PM »
Ah, this thread takes me back to writing my master's thesis back in 82 on the quantitative analysis of barbituates in urine using GC/MS.  Now, most of these tests are all automated: load the sample into the cassette, press 'test' and walk away.
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Re: Probing the APS bank of knowledge
« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2012, 07:51:10 PM »
I'm on a few rehab sites and this bath salt stuff can ROYALLY *expletive deleted*ck you up.  BAD, BAD, BAD stuff....
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Re: Probing the APS bank of knowledge
« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2012, 08:39:08 PM »
I'm on a few rehab sites and this bath salt stuff can ROYALLY *expletive deleted* you up.  BAD, BAD, BAD stuff....

Funny how the legal stuff is worse for you than the illegal stuff.
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Re: Probing the APS bank of knowledge
« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2012, 10:54:27 PM »
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Skilled chemists can make synthetic cannabinoids that are not illegal but still have psychoactive effects just by changing a couple of molecules.

In a former place of employment, I used to run prep-HPLCs to purify Delta-9 THC that the guys in the lab next door made synthetically. On a shift I was yielding about 200gm of 99.5%+ Delta-9 which we then mixed with ethanol. The stuff smelled divine.
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Re: Probing the APS bank of knowledge
« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2012, 11:07:37 PM »
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It's expensive, because the hair essentially is vaporized in a gas chromatograph. The machine is expensive, and it's labor intensive, because a lab tech has to walk through the whole process with each sample. Granted, computers do a lot of the heavy lifting and analysis now, but it's still some "real lab work".

The hair samples would probably run in a LC Mass Spec machine which cost upwards of $100,000 and usually need an attachment called a PhD level Analytical chemist to run which costs even more.
Yes, its very expensive and very labor intensive work.
We used to have a PhD Chemist from India who ran our LC-MS and GC-MS machines would talk your ears off for hours about how she did the analysis if you had time to listen.  =D
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Re: Probing the APS bank of knowledge
« Reply #30 on: March 20, 2012, 11:09:39 PM »
In a former place of employment, I used to run prep-HPLCs to purify Delta-9 THC that the guys in the lab next door made synthetically. On a shift I was yielding about 200gm of 99.5%+ Delta-9 which we then mixed with ethanol. The stuff smelled divine.

That's interesting.  Assuming that your process was stripping out aromatic esters, that implies that the THC-Delta-9 actually has a scent.  (Honest question) Is that true?

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Re: Probing the APS bank of knowledge
« Reply #31 on: March 20, 2012, 11:11:33 PM »
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That's interesting.  Assuming that your process was stripping out aromatic esters, that implies that the THC-Delta-9 actually has a scent.  (Honest question) Is that true?

Yes, it had a nice smell to it.

Edit: It didn't hurt that it was mixed with ethanol either which has a very pleasant smell to me as well.
The THC smelled a bit like weak turpentine or pine-sol.
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