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Title: Another hero dog dies protecting her family
Post by: MillCreek on June 27, 2022, 04:46:00 PM
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation/family-dog-dies-protecting-kids-from-mountain-lion-in-colorado/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=owned_echobox_f&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR1bYTGQOy58eddrdhi-WJg1kkj4FHnqzU0BaDPWQPWWzGhoSdyO4kAV7mo#Echobox=1656361270

I am trying to be calm and not judge the dog owners, but opening windows and throwing things at the cougar?  If this was my house, there would have been at least one mag dump into the cougar trying to eat my dog.
Title: Re: Another hero dog dies protecting her family
Post by: Hawkmoon on June 27, 2022, 04:53:50 PM
I can't post my thoughts about people who live in cougar territory and who don't have a freakin' GUN!
Title: Re: Another hero dog dies protecting her family
Post by: charby on June 27, 2022, 05:43:27 PM
I can't post my thoughts about people who live in cougar territory and who don't have a freakin' GUN!

Not everyone is able to own a firearm or wants to own/carry a firearm.


Title: Re: Another hero dog dies protecting her family
Post by: gunsmith on June 27, 2022, 07:43:11 PM
 I got a paywall.

However, from the sound of it, they were not smart enough to own a gun
Title: Re: Another hero dog dies protecting her family
Post by: zxcvbob on June 27, 2022, 08:14:15 PM
The dog had a job to do and did it without hesitation the best it could.  Good dog.  The owner, not so much.  But it sounds like after the kids were safely in the house, the dog attacked the cougar, not the other way around.  That wasn't necessary, but Dog didn't know that, I guess.
Title: Re: Another hero dog dies protecting her family
Post by: 230RN on June 27, 2022, 09:08:18 PM
Side thought:

Charby said,

"Not everyone is able to own a firearm or wants to own/carry a firearm."

Colorado is now a blue state.

It is a blue state because of all the blue people.

I wonder how many of these blue people have discovered that they can't own firearms.

Surprise, surprise!

Also, it would be darned hard to pick your target if the cougar and dog are fighting.  Be practical about it.  I've often thought a fixed-blade knife might be more effective in case of a personal attack by a lion.

Or even a canned boat horn.

Terry, 230RN
Title: Re: Another hero dog dies protecting her family
Post by: Bogie on June 27, 2022, 09:24:41 PM
Reminds me of all the tales about "brave teachers who died protecting children."
 
They weren't protecting anyone. And they may have been brave. But they were stupid and unarmed, and likely WANTED to be unarmed.
 
Dog couldn't have done anything about it, but people could have.
Title: Re: Another hero dog dies protecting her family
Post by: French G. on June 27, 2022, 10:46:40 PM
Reminds me of all the tales about "brave teachers who died protecting children."
 
They weren't protecting anyone. And they may have been brave. But they were stupid and unarmed, and likely WANTED to be unarmed.
 
Dog couldn't have done anything about it, but people could have.

If they tried to stop entry to their room and died between the gunman and the kids they absolutely are heroes. Did a lot more than a fire team worth of cops with rifles.
Title: Re: Another hero dog dies protecting her family
Post by: Bogie on June 27, 2022, 11:28:29 PM
And if they had previously lobbied to be defenseless?
Title: Re: Another hero dog dies protecting her family
Post by: MechAg94 on June 27, 2022, 11:49:23 PM
Not everyone is able to own a firearm or wants to own/carry a firearm.
Spear?
Bow?
Black Powder?
Knife/Machete? 

Lots of weapons potentially available IF they put some thought into it (which they probably didn't).  Gotta be willing to use them which might be a problem for some.
Title: Re: Another hero dog dies protecting her family
Post by: 230RN on June 28, 2022, 12:42:08 PM
Spear?
Bow?
Black Powder?
Knife/Machete? 

Lots of weapons potentially available IF they put some thought into it (which they probably didn't).  Gotta be willing to use them which might be a problem for some.

Scissors?
Hot coffee?
Letter opener?
Heavy book?
Sheaf of loose papers?

Your chances may only go from zero to one in a hundred, but that's better than zero.
Title: Re: Another hero dog dies protecting her family
Post by: RoadKingLarry on June 28, 2022, 01:17:26 PM
The dog had a job to do and did it without hesitation the best it could.  Good dog.  The owner, not so much.  But it sounds like after the kids were safely in the house, the dog attacked the cougar, not the other way around.  That wasn't necessary, but Dog didn't know that, I guess.

The best defense is a good offense.
Title: Re: Another hero dog dies protecting her family
Post by: lee n. field on June 28, 2022, 01:58:07 PM
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation/family-dog-dies-protecting-kids-from-mountain-lion-in-colorado/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=owned_echobox_f&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR1bYTGQOy58eddrdhi-WJg1kkj4FHnqzU0BaDPWQPWWzGhoSdyO4kAV7mo#Echobox=1656361270

I am trying to be calm and not judge the dog owners, but opening windows and throwing things at the cougar?  If this was my house, there would have been at least one mag dump into the cougar trying to eat my dog.

Just the thing for me to see, the week my daughter, SIL, and brood go to Denver to visit, and do some primitive camping.
Title: Re: Another hero dog dies protecting her family
Post by: HankB on June 28, 2022, 07:11:53 PM
Scissors?
Hot coffee?
Letter opener?
Heavy book?
Sheaf of loose papers?

Your chances may only go from zero to one in a hundred, but that's better than zero.
Baseball bat?
Tennis racket?
Rolling pin?
Broomstick?
Hammer?

Some people see virtue in being unarmed, even if the law hasn't disarmed them. These people are called victims, statistics, or Darwin award winners.
Title: Re: Another hero dog dies protecting her family
Post by: JTHunter on June 29, 2022, 12:45:14 AM
There was an article posted on another gun forum about a CA DNR officer/director (??) who lost his job because he went to Montana where it was legal to do so and bagged a nice sized lion.
All because it isn't legal to kill lion in CA.
  :facepalm:  [barf]
Title: Re: Another hero dog dies protecting her family
Post by: T.O.M. on June 29, 2022, 11:13:59 AM
First time I visited a good friend at their family "ranch" in Northern AZ, I was surprised to see the kids outside playing, and a couple of adults standing by watching with slung rifles.  They educated me about lions stalking children.  Gotta say, M1 Garand rifles are probably a decent choice for most predators in that part of the world.  Both two and four leg varieties.
Title: Re: Another hero dog dies protecting her family
Post by: gunsmith on June 29, 2022, 11:59:16 PM
There was an article posted on another gun forum about a CA DNR officer/director (??) who lost his job because he went to Montana where it was legal to do so and bagged a nice sized lion.
All because it isn't legal to kill lion in CA.
  :facepalm:  [barf]

 yeah, he was the chief or something, i was in SF at the time - everyone was angry as heck-they all believed they are endangered .
 the guy tried to claim he ate the lion meat but no one bought the story , including me, ppl do not hunt cats for meat, do they?
 lions are everywhere now in cali, not endangered at all