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Title: Cheese George! Cheeeese!
Post by: Ben on May 29, 2022, 10:30:33 AM
The US govt storage facility for 1.4 billion pounds of cheese:

https://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/hundreds-of-feet-below-missouri-sits-a-14billionpound-store-of-government-cheese/

https://youtu.be/7u2zc9JE8Kk
Title: Re: Cheese George! Cheeeese!
Post by: MillCreek on May 29, 2022, 10:42:33 AM
If a block of Tillamook extra sharp cheddar starts to get moldy after two weeks in my fridge, I wonder what is the life expectancy of the cheese in Missouri?
Title: Re: Cheese George! Cheeeese!
Post by: Bogie on May 29, 2022, 10:44:31 AM
Funny, but I don't remember government cheese as being nasty... We had some when I was in college...
Title: Re: Cheese George! Cheeeese!
Post by: WLJ on May 29, 2022, 10:50:51 AM
Of course they drag climate change into the article.
Almost shocked Trump wasn't
Title: Re: Cheese George! Cheeeese!
Post by: Bogie on May 29, 2022, 10:52:02 AM
And subtly dump on those horrible farmers out in flyover country.
 
Those farmers should just be like everyone else, and go to the store for their food.
Title: Re: Cheese George! Cheeeese!
Post by: Ben on May 29, 2022, 11:00:08 AM
Of course they drag climate change into the article.
Almost shocked Trump wasn't

It's almost comical. On the one hand, cow farts are destroying the planet. On the other hand, a lot of the left is now pushing to turn tilled land into no-till cow pastures, because no-till grazing sequesters carbon and reduces fertilizer use (the cattle provide their own). I mean, the latter is actually a somewhat sane approach as it does end up being good for the land and still keeps a meat industry going, versus the "cows are evil" vegan approach. Full disclosure, I do no-till grazing.


Title: Re: Cheese George! Cheeeese!
Post by: zxcvbob on May 29, 2022, 11:20:58 AM
Funny, but I don't remember government cheese as being nasty... We had some when I was in college...

It was good stuff.  (We got a 5# brick of it I think during Reagan)  Like deluxe American cheese, but a little dryer and sharper.
Title: Re: Cheese George! Cheeeese!
Post by: RocketMan on May 29, 2022, 12:21:01 PM
If a block of Tillamook extra sharp cheddar starts to get moldy after two weeks in my fridge, I wonder what is the life expectancy of the cheese in Missouri?

It's government cheese.  The life expectancy is measured in thousands of years.


Speaking of Tillamook cheese, I can get Tillamook dairy products way over here in Hickory, NC.  I grab some extra sharp Cheddar slices for sandwiches now and again at the local Food Lion.
Title: Re: Cheese George! Cheeeese!
Post by: 230RN on May 29, 2022, 01:22:14 PM
And subtly dump on those horrible farmers out in flyover country.
 
Those farmers should just be like everyone else, and go to the store for their food.

:rofl:

Priceless!

funny, I was wondering just last week what happened with all that goobermink cheese from a couple of years ago.

What brought it up was finding some mold on a block of cheddar which overstayed its welcome in my fridge.

Without delving into it back when it was all in the news, I kinda half figured they maybe irradiated it for preservation.

Ben opined:

"It's almost comical. On the one hand, cow farts are destroying the planet. On the other hand, a lot of the left is now pushing to turn tilled land into no-till cow pastures, because no-till grazing sequesters carbon and reduces fertilizer use (the cattle provide their own). I mean, the latter is actually a somewhat sane approach as it does end up being good for the land and still keeps a meat industry going, versus the "cows are evil" vegan approach. Full disclosure, I do no-till grazing."

It's only comical if you make the unwarranted assum[ption that those folks are rational, logical beings.

They are not.  They are herd animals themselves.

Terry, 230RN


Title: Re: Cheese George! Cheeeese!
Post by: Boomhauer on May 29, 2022, 01:40:18 PM
So basically they just buy it up and do nothing with it or what? I’ll take some we love some cheese around here
Title: Re: Cheese George! Cheeeese!
Post by: lee n. field on May 29, 2022, 01:43:46 PM
Funny, but I don't remember government cheese as being nasty... We had some when I was in college...
 

I remember it being a low grade Velveeta knock-off.
Title: Re: Cheese George! Cheeeese!
Post by: Jim147 on May 29, 2022, 01:54:08 PM
 

I remember it being a low grade Velveeta knock-off.

We got a big delivery of 5 pound blocks of it last year. I was working on something in there after pickup day and they gave me one. It was just like Velveeta.
Title: Re: Cheese George! Cheeeese!
Post by: Perd Hapley on May 29, 2022, 02:08:47 PM
Who's George?

https://youtu.be/C7rzSslub6U
Title: Re: Cheese George! Cheeeese!
Post by: MechAg94 on May 29, 2022, 03:36:12 PM
Maybe they should send that to the Ukraine.
Title: Re: Cheese George! Cheeeese!
Post by: zxcvbob on May 29, 2022, 03:39:27 PM
We got a big delivery of 5 pound blocks of it last year. I was working on something in there after pickup day and they gave me one. It was just like Velveeta.

It has really gone downhill then.  It used to be processed like Velveeta, but with a lot more cheese and a lot less water and salt.  Old English loaf, if you remember that, was pretty close.
Title: Re: Cheese George! Cheeeese!
Post by: K Frame on May 29, 2022, 04:14:57 PM
I remember people lining up for gov cheese during the worst of the 1970s economy.

Distributions didn't start until Reagan kicked it loose in the 1981, but we were still deep in the 70s recession economy.

Ever wonder how the US ended up with so much cheese to hand out in the 1980s?

https://www.history.com/news/government-cheese-dairy-farmers-reagan

The Scout camp where I worked in 1983 had racks of that stuff that we used liberally in the mess hall.

It actually wasn't terrible tasting.

Title: Re: Cheese George! Cheeeese!
Post by: WLJ on May 29, 2022, 04:17:32 PM
Let them eat cheese
Title: Re: Cheese George! Cheeeese!
Post by: BobR on May 29, 2022, 04:37:58 PM
When I worked on the rez in Montana a few of my coworkers would give me their cheese. They always had an excess of it at home. They would also give me all of the burbot they caught, the looks of it made it so they didn't want to eat it. Their loss. :)

bob
Title: Re: Cheese George! Cheeeese!
Post by: bedlamite on May 29, 2022, 05:14:44 PM
It's government cheese.  The half life expectancy is measured in thousands of years.



FTFY
Title: Re: Cheese George! Cheeeese!
Post by: RoadKingLarry on May 29, 2022, 05:44:43 PM
We used to get government cheese from my grandparents back in the '70s. I'm not sure how they were getting it, might have been because they were drawing social security.
Either way I remember it as being fairly decent cheese, very similar to standard American Cheese.
Title: Re: Cheese George! Cheeeese!
Post by: RocketMan on May 29, 2022, 06:29:01 PM
We used to get government cheese from my grandparents back in the '70s. I'm not sure how they were getting it, might have been because they were drawing social security.
Either way I remember it as being fairly decent cheese, very similar to standard American Cheese.

Standard American Cheese is not real cheese.  It is a cheese-like substance that is an affront to all that is holy in the culinary world.
Title: Re: Cheese George! Cheeeese!
Post by: Perd Hapley on May 29, 2022, 07:37:08 PM
Standard American Cheese is not real cheese.  It is a cheese-like substance that is an affront to all that is holy in the culinary world.

A fan of Swiss cheese, I see.
Title: Re: Cheese George! Cheeeese!
Post by: Fly320s on May 29, 2022, 08:01:57 PM
Standard American Cheese is not real cheese.  It is a cheese-like substance that is an affront to all that is holy in the culinary world.

If you are refering to Kraft Singles cheese product, you are right.  Real American Cheese is different and better and it is real cheese, by definition.
Title: Re: Cheese George! Cheeeese!
Post by: K Frame on May 29, 2022, 08:29:34 PM
"Mais non! American cheese is not cheese! the cheese police cry out. And they have a point. American cheese—even the "fancy" stuff you can get sliced at the deli counter—is not exactly cheese. But here's the thing. Saying "American cheese is not cheese" is like saying "meatloaf is not meat."

From  https://www.seriouseats.com/whats-really-in-american-cheese
Title: Re: Cheese George! Cheeeese!
Post by: Bogie on May 29, 2022, 10:51:41 PM
American Cheese is made to melt better/faster. FWIW, and Fistful will recognize the name - I do a Christmas Santa photo with the brothers from the Hautly Cheese family every year.
 
My favorite is a tossup between 2021 and 2018, with a slight edge for 2021. Yeah, we heard banjos...

http://www.shaunhautly.com/santa-photos
Title: Re: Cheese George! Cheeeese!
Post by: Perd Hapley on May 29, 2022, 11:43:57 PM
American Cheese is made to melt better/faster. FWIW, and Fistful will recognize the name - I do a Christmas Santa photo with the brothers from the Hautly Cheese family every year.
 
My favorite is a tossup between 2021 and 2018, with a slight edge for 2021. Yeah, we heard banjos...

http://www.shaunhautly.com/santa-photos

When you say cheese, say "Hautly" and smile.
Title: Re: Cheese George! Cheeeese!
Post by: Bogie on May 29, 2022, 11:59:23 PM
The "rule" for the photo is that all the stuff has to pretty much come from attic or garage or just get grabbed. Painting is allowed.