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Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: Oleg Volk on April 11, 2005, 09:53:18 AM
I need to mow a 0.2 acre sloped lot. My options are: used 6HP Sears gas mower for $110 or getting an electric mower. I dislike the smell of gas and the engine noise, but I am dubious about the utility of a battery or a corded electric model. Please advise what to get.
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: Harold Tuttle on April 11, 2005, 09:56:32 AM
i have been running the same corded electric black & decker for 12 years

for a small lots its fine & its very quiet

you will learn the zen of drag cord flipping
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: charby on April 11, 2005, 10:05:12 AM
I mowed a 1/4 acre yard one time with a electric mower..  never again damn cord slowed me down.

I use a 2 cycle lawnboy Silver series and love it.

You could check out this mower on your small lot. Its electric and mows by itself. http://www.ie.husqvarna.com/node1533.asp
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: mtnbkr on April 11, 2005, 10:17:00 AM
I mow a postage stamp yard (front is 10ft wide and 30ft long, give or take a few, back is twice as wide) in NoVa with a corded electric mower.  It does the job just fine.  Occasionally, the cord gets in the way, but not often enough to bother me.  I can mow at any time of the day and not disturb my neighbors.

Oh, I use a Black and Decker mower.  I've had it for 3 years now and it's still running strong.

Chris
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: client32 on April 11, 2005, 11:22:58 AM
I can't do the acre to sq foot conversion at the moment, but if it is small enough, what about a manual mower (reel mower).

A google search should turn up options.
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: mtnbkr on April 11, 2005, 11:30:57 AM
I tried the reel mower thing myself when I first got my house.  It works fine IF you keep the grass cut.  Get behind schedule with your mowing and you're going to have a time getting it to cut properly.  Also, if your yard isn't smooth, you're going to have problems.  A reel mower would work great on a putting green, but isn't very practical for most yards or schedules.

I used mine for a season and a half and ended up selling it at a yard sale for $20.

Chris
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: cfabe on April 11, 2005, 11:42:00 AM
If you can deal with the cord, electric would be okay, I wouldn't get a battery operated one. Personally I'd get the gas push mower, but I don't mind the fumes. Wear some hearing protection and the sound shouldn't be too bad.
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: Tallpine on April 11, 2005, 11:50:59 AM
For that small a yard, I would get a brand new Briggs & Stratton powered 20" mower.   Much lighter and easier to use than the big one you are looking at, and probably about the same price.  Look for the sales that Ace or other h/w stores run this time of year.

Change the oil every season and it will probably last about 10 years (or more).

Or ... I got one of those high wheel 6hp mowers new for about $200 on sale a few years ago.  Harder to mow around flowers and trees but better if the ground is rough.

I used an electric ONCE ... couldn't stand the dang cord.

Best idea: get one of those little minature horses :-)
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: cdma on April 11, 2005, 12:02:54 PM
I'm not a fan of yard work and, like most tasks, trying to save money in the short run on sub-standard equipment makes the task that much more unpleasant.

I'd start by looking at the Honda Harmony II line of mowers. They start in the high $300s, but last for years. and are excellent mowers. They're also good mulchers if you want that. Depending on how severe your slope is, the additional expense of a powered mower may be well worth it. However, if your lot has many obstacles that you'll need to manuever around, the added weight of a self-powering mechanism will be an impediment.

I never was a fan of electrics; I never could master cord management. They are relatively quiet, though, which is a plus.
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: XLMiguel on April 11, 2005, 03:33:15 PM
Corded electirc mowers are a PITA, and they don't do well when the grass is thick & high.  Still, it's a small lot, so it's up to you on your tolerance for dragging the cord around.  How much manuerving do you have to do around trees, shrubs, beds?  Less/fewer is better if you have to deal with a cord.

If you can get along with gas, a 4 HP 20" would do ya fine, <$150 new.

Plan B - any neighborhood kids around with an entrepanueral bent or work ethic?
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: Waitone on April 11, 2005, 03:35:07 PM
Goats, think goats.
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: possenti on April 11, 2005, 03:43:24 PM
Whatever is the cheapest.  The more money you save is more money for ammo and gun stuff!
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: TarpleyG on April 11, 2005, 03:45:18 PM
Do what I do and pay a lawn service $16 per cut to do it for you.  Hell, for $16, I can't afford NOT to have them do it.  I can't do it that cheap myself.

Greg
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: roo_ster on April 11, 2005, 04:35:15 PM
$110 for a 6HP mower is pretty cheap.

The electrics are nice for the reasons mentioned above...and are a PITA for the reasons mentioned above...

Here's a possible solution:  buy the 6HP gas mower AND a reel mower, as they are really cheap, too.  If you stay on top of it, you don't break out ol' smelly & noisy that often.  If you let it go two weeks, you'll thank yourself for having a gas-powered mower.

What did I do?  I have a smaller than .2 acre lawn & bought a 21" 6HP self-propelled mower at Costco.  The cool thing is that the motor is a Honda, but I did not pay a Honda price, as it was produced by MTD.

Welcome to yard work.  At first I dreaded it, but now I see the parodies of suburban guys on their mowers or doing landscaping and feel a tinge of solidarity and (I seem to have a mote in my eye, sniff, sniff) a little pride.
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: kudu on April 11, 2005, 04:38:45 PM
1/5 of an acre is not a small lot in my opinion, it's not big, but a decent size.  A corded mower is quiet, but is it worth the hassle of the cord dragging up and down a hill.  Get a decent gas mower, maybe self propelled, some of the better ones run pretty quiet and don't have as bad fumes.
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: Standing Wolf on April 11, 2005, 05:45:13 PM
I bought an electric mower and a very long cord shortly after I bought my house.

As trusted, it was easier on the ears than a gas model. The cord was something of a bother; once I learned to mow away from rather than toward the house, however, it wasn't so bad. A year after I bought it, I discovered "mulching" the cut grass was altogether the wrong thing to do in Colorado: it's so dry here, the clippings don't decompose, but clog up the lawn.

I bought a Honda gas-powered motor. I never run it without first putting on a pair of shooting muffs. All my neighbors know I'm a gun nut, and anyway, I carry openly about half the time when I'm in the yard. It's self-propelled, so it handles the inclined back yard better than the electric model. Dumping the bag is a bother, but the lawn is healthier now. Changing the oil is another bother, as is remembering to fill the gas can at the station. Other than the hassles, the mower is a champion.
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: grampster on April 11, 2005, 05:48:32 PM
Get a Honda, 4stroke, self propelled.  End of Story.
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: nico on April 11, 2005, 06:07:10 PM
I cut my yard with a 6hp self propelled Troy bilt mulching/bagging/side eject mower and it works pretty well.  If you don't cut it once a week during the summer, you have to use a bag, but it's still not bad.  

I also cut my grandmother's lawn with a Craftsman electric mower and I absolutely hate it.  She has a few small trees in her yard and a deck and I have to screw with the cord every couple of minutes.  If you're cutting a clear patch of land, I think it'd work fine though.
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: Guest on April 11, 2005, 07:04:15 PM
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Get a Honda, 4stroke, self propelled.  End of Story.
Yes.
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: DustinD on April 11, 2005, 10:47:11 PM
I use a self propelled gas mower with hearing protection. I wear hearing protection for shooting and riding my motorcycle (noisy winds whipping through ear canals cause hearing damage) so it is no biggy for me to wear protection for mowing.
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: Peter Ratner on April 12, 2005, 12:30:57 AM
Waitone said "Goats, think goats."

If you're gonna go with critters use sheep - goats will et everything they can reach (even getting up on their hind legs), and don't particularly like grass. Sheep are much better at mowing grass, and tastier too.
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: Leatherneck on April 12, 2005, 04:44:14 AM
I've repaired mowers for about 20 years as a hobby for friends and neighbors. Probably about 15-20 per year on average. In all that time, I've never had a single electric mower in the shop.

Two problems account for 90% + in the gas mowers:
1. Low/no oil,
2. Bad gas in the springtime.

So if you're fond of changing oil, storing gasoline, noise, smell, etc go with the gas mower.

TC
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: BryanP on April 12, 2005, 05:59:44 AM
For a lot that small, I would second the earlier recommendations for a push reel mower. They work surprisingly well.
 You can get them for about $100 at Lowes.



The only problem with the battery powered models is runtime, but again with a .2 acre lot I don't think that will be an issue.
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: mtnbkr on April 12, 2005, 07:03:26 AM
Bryanp, the model you show in your picture is the exact one I had.  It's not worth the hassle, especially with a sloping yard.  They're a PITA unless your yard is a putting green.

I really wanted mine to work out, but it just wasn't happening.  Roots, ruts, too tall grass, etc all make it difficult to use.  When conditions were right, it worked very well, but that was seldom.

Chris
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: Wildalaska on April 12, 2005, 07:54:04 AM
Get one of those 12HP Sears tractors, paint it desert camo, put some knobby tires and a roll bar on it, Mount a GE Mini Gun on the front, park it in the driveway and get yer neighbors to cut the grass

WildittakesavillageAlaska
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: BryanP on April 12, 2005, 07:57:27 AM
mtnbkr,

I used one as a teenager, but the yards I mowed were very putting-greenish, so that's probably why I didn't mind.

I've always thought someone should make small (12" cut) self-propelled remote-controlled lawn mowers.  You could market them with snap-on plastic shells to make them look like the vehicle of your choice.  The NASCAR crowd would eat it up.
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: grampster on April 12, 2005, 06:17:25 PM
I rescind my former recomendation and defer to Mr. Wildstillnopicofthepinkhighheelsforthcomingalaska.cheesy
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: Mabs2 on April 12, 2005, 08:02:55 PM
I still haven't figured out why those old fashion manpowered lawnmowers are so expensive.
Am I missing something?
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: Sylvilagus Aquaticus on April 12, 2005, 08:43:48 PM
Pave it and paint it green.  You'll be more pleased with the results. You could 'mow' it with a leaf blower.

Regards
Rabbit.
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: mack on April 13, 2005, 06:42:28 AM
Oleg, sounds like manual labor to me....hire a nice kid in the neighborhood to cut the grass.....mack
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: Stickjockey on April 13, 2005, 10:42:20 AM
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You can get them for about $100 at Lowes.
Let me check, but I think I've got one I'll send you for $50.00 and shipping.
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: Greg Levy on April 13, 2005, 02:40:27 PM
Quote from: Waitone
Goats, think goats.
Hmm...I was thinking it was time for kids, myself.

On the idea of a Push Reel Mower...I bought one because most of my yard is trees and shrub, with only a 15 X 20 foot section of grass.  I HATE IT!!!!  It works good, until I find a pine cone or a small tree branch.  Anything other than grass, and it stops like you hit a brick wall.  Nothing like having to rake BEFORE and AFTER you mow.  

If I had it to do over again, I would have bought something else...

Quote from: Stickjockey
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You can get them for about $100 at Lowes.
Let me check, but I think I've got one I'll send you for $50.00 and shipping.
Heck..I've got one just for the cost of shipping.  Then I can tell the wife it was stolen, and get something better.

greg
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: mtnbkr on April 14, 2005, 06:02:00 AM
heh.  When I sold my reel mower at a yard sale last year, the guy that bought it lived across the street.  He had just moved in and the grass was rather tall (it was mid spring).  I was mildly amused by the guy trying to cut grass that would choke a gas mower with this reel mower.  Needless to say, I never saw him use it again.

Chris
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: mfree on April 15, 2005, 06:19:29 AM
This raises a good point.... the grass in my backyard is *extremely* tall, and all I've got is a piddly 3hp push mower with rusty blades. I don't own any more yard equipment than that (seems to be just fine for the front 1/4 acre). So, I'm in the market for something cheap that'll handle it this once and be useful on down the line in other pursuits.

What's the ramifications of getting a little tiller and just chopping it all under and starting from scratch with clover? If it's too bad I'll just spend a day out there with an electric string trimmer and a rake...
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: charby on April 15, 2005, 06:48:50 AM
Quote from: mfree
What's the ramifications of getting a little tiller and just chopping it all under and starting from scratch with clover? If it's too bad I'll just spend a day out there with an electric string trimmer and a rake...
Pissed off neighbors and rabbits eating and breeding like crazy in your yard.
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: mtnbkr on April 15, 2005, 06:51:36 AM
I'd sharpen the blad on that mower, set it at max height, and take it slow.  After the first pass, cut only half width "rows" and take it slow.  Once you get one cut, rake, then mow again on a lower setting.  By this point, you can take larger "bites" and move faster.

I had to do this the other day with my electric mower.  I have a much smaller yard though.

Tilling it under and starting over might work, but it may also open your lawn up for a weed invasion.  As long as you keep a nice thick carpet of grass, it's hard for weeds to get a foothold, but by tilling it, you'll open it up for every weed seed dropped by the breeze, birds, or animals.  I had no weeds at all in my front yard until a drought and my laziness let a large thin patch appear (lawn pattern baldness?).  From there on, it's been a battle to keep weeds out.  I'm almost back to my previous state, but it's taken a lot of chemicals and manual weeding.

Chris
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: mike on April 23, 2005, 07:03:44 AM
"think" Artifical turf!:o
Title: Lawn mower advice please
Post by: mfree on April 26, 2005, 10:46:24 AM
I managed to get it all lashed down with the little 3.5 horse mower, but the back yard looks nasty... like a lawn full of standing green straws, due to the thickness of the grass stems. Will it recover?

Will I care? :-D

Only thing I really care about now is that the lawns are growing past what I consider regular cutting length in *4 days*.... what the heck kind of grass is this!