TSA VIPR Teams Searching Cars/Trucks

[Fly320s]

Don't worry, you can always retain your 4th amendment rights by walking to see your friends/family in that town 30 miles over.

As long as you don't walk on public roads, right of ways, or sidewalks. 

What logical difference exists between a bus or train and a personal vehicle? What makes one more "reasonable" and outside the warrant requirement?

Personal property springs to mind.

[KD5NRH]

You will get more sober responses if you bring up Tom Clancy's move of stopping and detonating a tanker full of gasoline on I-5 where it passes under buildings in Seattle.

Ship full of anything nasty in the Houston Ship Channel could be even worse.  The channel runs pretty much right into downtown, and the prevailing winds would carry an airborne contaminant right to an insane number of people.

[red headed stranger]

Don't worry, you can always retain your 4th amendment rights by walking to see your friends/family in that town 30 miles over.

I'm sure somewhere between those two towns you would get stopped for looking suspicious. 

[Jamisjockey]

Imagine what a 3-5 man element armed with small arms could do at a sporting event, convention or even a going away or welcome home ceremony for military unit?

Mall, or the security checkpoint at an airport. 
All one has to do is turn to the types of attacks they've pulled off in the past in isreal.  A shootout at a mall would be disastorous to our economy.

Like Chris said, if they could, they would. 

[nigmalg]

Personal property springs to mind.

You would have to make the argument that your book bag is subject to search anywhere until and unless you enter your own vehicle. It's saying that the method for your transportation dictates the reasonableness of a search. Nothing about your book bag changed having moved from a bus to your vehicle.

But I admit this is more rhetorical than a inquisitive. "Reasonableness" of TSA checkpoints at airports has been justified because of the method of transportation. My point is there is NO legal threshold to cross when moving the searches into ANY form of public transportation or private transportation on public roadways.

Expect suspicion-less sidewalk, car, bus, and train searches in your immediate future.

[Tallpine]

Expect suspicion-less sidewalk, car, bus, and train searches in your immediate future.

I expect that will be an interesting day.

[Fly320s]

I expect that will be an interesting day.

Yes, but the ever encroaching bubble of precedent will be close behind.  First, the planes were screened, then the ships, then the trains, then the buses, then commercial trucking, then private vehicles on public roads...

[zxcvbob]

And then next they'll be driving x-ray vans around and peeking thru the walls of your house (not to mention the radiation) searching for drugs, guns, and kinky sex acts not approved by DHS nor the Commissioner of Baseball.

[seeker_two]

And then next they'll be driving x-ray vans around and peeking thru the walls of your house (not to mention the radiation) searching for drugs, guns, and kinky sex acts not approved by DHS nor the Commissioner of Baseball.

I imagine lead sheeting prices will go through the roof then.... 

[MicroBalrog]

I imagine lead sheeting prices will go through the roof then.... 

Probable cause.

[RoadKingLarry]

Some of the better foil backed insulation in the walls should handle the X-rays pretty well.
Or if they really start doing that foil cut outs in various interesting shapes to give them something to wonder about.

[Regolith]

If I ever win the lottery....1-2 yard thick concrete walls.  With rebar reinforcement.  I even get to use the excuse that it's environmentally friendly, since a wall that thick is a pretty good insulator.

I'd like to see them get a return through that. 

[erictank]

Probable cause.

Lack of which hasn't stopped 'em yet, the bastards.

[MicroBalrog]

If I ever win the lottery....1-2 yard thick concrete walls.  With rebar reinforcement.  I even get to use the excuse that it's environmentally friendly, since a wall that thick is a pretty good insulator.

I'd like to see them get a return through that. 

Build a traditional underground house. I can share plans.

[Tallpine]

Yes, but the ever encroaching bubble of precedent will be close behind.  First, the planes were screened, then the ships, then the trains, then the buses, then commercial trucking, then private vehicles on public roads...

Then no longer at that awkward stage