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Re: Thomas Kinkade dead at age 54
« Reply #50 on: April 09, 2012, 01:04:18 PM »
Ah, but by your apparent definition, he was. He used the proper materials, and he applied them in a competent and forthwith manner, and he actually had talent by virtue of the fact that most people can't/couldn't create images as competently as he could.


"I'm sick of poor art being held up as awesome because it has "deep meaning"."

Inability to comprehend or conceive the meaning says more about the viewer than it does about the viewed...  ;)
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Re: Thomas Kinkade dead at age 54
« Reply #51 on: April 09, 2012, 01:17:06 PM »
I'm pretty sure that any original Hitler artwork that hits the auction block would fetch a pretty penny.....
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Re: Thomas Kinkade dead at age 54
« Reply #52 on: April 09, 2012, 02:56:42 PM »
There was a good episode of Justified about Hitler's art. Thomas Cole's The Voyage of Life has always impressed me.
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Re: Thomas Kinkade dead at age 54
« Reply #53 on: April 09, 2012, 06:04:39 PM »


In 2010, Andy Fields bought a $5 stash of paintings at a garage sale. When he later took one of the frames apart, he found the above sketch. Turns out, it's likely an Andy Warhol original that the Pop star drew when he was just nine or 10 years old. Fields told reporters that he bought the paintings "from a man who had abused drugs and whose aunt had cared for Warhol in his youth." The portrait is thought to be of singer Rudy Vallee. If it's a Warhol, it's estimated to be worth $2 million. Not a bad score.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/04/man-buys-warhol-sketch-for-5/
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Re: Thomas Kinkade dead at age 54
« Reply #54 on: April 09, 2012, 06:07:00 PM »
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Re: Thomas Kinkade dead at age 54
« Reply #55 on: April 09, 2012, 06:30:11 PM »
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Re: Thomas Kinkade dead at age 54
« Reply #56 on: April 09, 2012, 06:32:01 PM »
I was under the impression that "art" was a work that inpired feeling from the one beholding it. The more it inspires from the masses, the more it hold up as art. Both technique and inspiration for the work is important, but the most important is how the work is veiwed by people.

I wouldn't give the kincaid stuff value as I doubt it inspires anymore then a mild fuzzy wuzzy feeling inside and the need for a nap. People like it because it DOESN'T make them think. Even the modern art you guys rail against is closer to art, as it can inspire pretty impressive leavels of hate.  ;)

Kincaid is a cheat. He doesn't even to try to make his veiwers think about anything, he just paints some sappy thing and people say its pretty and put it on a wall. He produced decor, and crappy decor at that.
Most modern art is "art for art sake" and just want to get shock value and to be "smarter" then the general masses. It is nither inspired or inspiring. It's just pretentious and annoying.

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Re: Thomas Kinkade dead at age 54
« Reply #57 on: April 09, 2012, 07:00:33 PM »
Quote from: RevDisk on April 09, 2012, 12:43:31 PM
And yes, I DO subtract points when the artist has a poor understanding of the materials in which he is working.

Well, you certainly can't say that Piero Manzoni didn't know *expletive deleted*it.

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Re: Thomas Kinkade dead at age 54
« Reply #58 on: April 09, 2012, 07:05:10 PM »
I put Kinkaid on the same level as those awful "precious moments" figurines.
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Re: Thomas Kinkade dead at age 54
« Reply #59 on: April 09, 2012, 07:24:21 PM »
Quote from: bluestarlizzard on April 09, 2012, 06:32:01 PM
I was under the impression that "art" was a work that inpired feeling from the one beholding it. The more it inspires from the masses, the more it hold up as art. Both technique and inspiration for the work is important, but the most important is how the work is veiwed by people.

I wouldn't give the kincaid stuff value as I doubt it inspires anymore then a mild fuzzy wuzzy feeling inside and the need for a nap. People like it because it DOESN'T make them think. Even the modern art you guys rail against is closer to art, as it can inspire pretty impressive leavels of hate.  ;)

Kincaid is a cheat. He doesn't even to try to make his veiwers think about anything, he just paints some sappy thing and people say its pretty and put it on a wall. He produced decor, and crappy decor at that.
Most modern art is "art for art sake" and just want to get shock value and to be "smarter" then the general masses. It is nither inspired or inspiring. It's just pretentious and annoying.



Art doesn't have to make you think. It can simply be beautiful to look at. Which I find this Kinkaids paintings to be.
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Re: Thomas Kinkade dead at age 54
« Reply #60 on: April 09, 2012, 07:38:58 PM »
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Re: Thomas Kinkade dead at age 54
« Reply #61 on: April 09, 2012, 10:19:32 PM »
Quote from: Mike Irwin on April 09, 2012, 01:04:18 PM
Ah, but by your apparent definition, he was. He used the proper materials, and he applied them in a competent and forthwith manner, and he actually had talent by virtue of the fact that most people can't/couldn't create images as competently as he could.


"I'm sick of poor art being held up as awesome because it has "deep meaning"."

Inability to comprehend or conceive the meaning says more about the viewer than it does about the viewed...  ;)

I'm not exactly sure why you jumped to Godwin, or that I am automatically incompetent because I disagree with you on a matter of opinion.

But your last line is why I avoid the art scene.  Because if you disagree, you're stupid, bad or whatnot.  I noticed a very large lack of open mindedness within the art scene and avoid it because of comments like that.

 
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Re: Thomas Kinkade dead at age 54
« Reply #62 on: April 10, 2012, 01:15:22 AM »
Quote from: bluestarlizzard on April 09, 2012, 06:32:01 PM

I wouldn't give the kincaid stuff value as I doubt it inspires anymore then a mild fuzzy wuzzy feeling inside and the need for a nap. People like it because it DOESN'T make them think...



There's plenty of room in life for things that are merely enjoyable. Does chocolate make us think? Or watching dogs act silly? Or just merrily plinking with one's favorite gun? Not necessarily.

It's a good thing to find things that make you think. If a painting can do that for you, have at it. But there's no reason why all art should be about that. 

There may be a lot of reasons why Kinkade is not an artist (I don't pretend to know), but failing to make people think is certainly not one of them.
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Re: Thomas Kinkade dead at age 54
« Reply #63 on: April 10, 2012, 03:38:07 AM »
I'm not sure if I've ever posted this before,  but this is an awesome little virtual tour of one of my favorite museums.


http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/state-tretyakov-gallery/view/?service=0

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Re: Thomas Kinkade dead at age 54
« Reply #64 on: April 10, 2012, 07:03:37 AM »
How silly of me to think that anything OTHER than this could ever be construed to be art...




Yes, that IS an authentic Velvet Elvis, and should be viewed accordingly.
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Re: Thomas Kinkade dead at age 54
« Reply #65 on: April 10, 2012, 08:51:40 AM »
I think we all can agree that art is in the eye of the beholder.

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