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Title: Got Home Invaders? Use Wasp Spray
Post by: Ben on September 19, 2014, 10:23:26 PM
Hmm. Will the wasp spray make the home invaders even meaner, like it does the wasps?

http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/articles/2014/9/nbc-offers-repellent-advice-on-appeasing-home-invaders.aspx
Title: Re: Got Home Invaders? Use Wasp Spray
Post by: zxcvbob on September 19, 2014, 11:50:56 PM
I see NBC doesn't have a comments link.

It's actually illegal to use insecticides for purposes other than the label.  Might be okay as an improvised weapon, but he's talking about premeditation... (oven cleaner is a *lot* nastier and doesn't have that problem; it just doesn't have the range)

Gather everybody and get out??  Ridiculous.  Gather everybody and hunker down with a rifle.  Even better if your floorplan allows for it, position yourself low at the top of the stairs with a rifle and shoot them as they try to come up.  (You could probably hold off a SWAT team like that.)
Title: Re: Got Home Invaders? Use Wasp Spray
Post by: Boomhauer on September 19, 2014, 11:56:00 PM
Every time I see wasp spray suggested as a defense spray I want to choke a bitch.

It is not nearly as effective as the internet gun boards would have you believe, according to real life reports.

It's one thing not to mention using a firearm, it's quite another to suggest using ineffective methods. That's just idiotic.

Title: Re: Got Home Invaders? Use Wasp Spray
Post by: bedlamite on September 20, 2014, 12:20:09 AM
Yeah, wasp spray doesn't work on people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ylxnFxKqoc

Title: Re: Got Home Invaders? Use Wasp Spray
Post by: Triphammer on September 20, 2014, 12:25:25 AM
Does it work better if you spray it INTO the bullet holes?
Title: Re: Got Home Invaders? Use Wasp Spray
Post by: brimic on September 20, 2014, 01:32:56 AM
http://videodelivery.nbcnews.com/now/bypass/mp4/3aaae01e-e0f4-439d-aa7a-8d5e3e774105/00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000/8c913e59-c00a-4d37-925b-27b6ed698fcc/97807e48-ec86-43c0-aac1-28ef01bdb396/0/0/256/2091837753/tdy_rossen_invaders_140908.mp4?sid=128

The person giving the advice claims he was a detective for 22 years... 22 years as an interior decorator maybe.
Title: Re: Got Home Invaders? Use Wasp Spray
Post by: Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas on September 20, 2014, 02:23:17 AM
Oven cleaner, on the other hand, would probably work quite well.
Title: Re: Got Home Invaders? Use Wasp Spray
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on September 20, 2014, 02:43:49 AM
Pb blast.   Don't ask how I know


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Title: Re: Got Home Invaders? Use Wasp Spray
Post by: KD5NRH on September 20, 2014, 02:51:50 AM
My favorite wasp spray is starter fluid with a lighter. They can get as mad as they want once their wings are burned off.  Might not want to take time to set that up if there's a burglar though.

I have sprayed a few wasp nests in the woods with #4 shot, though. That's pretty effective too.
Title: Re: Got Home Invaders? Use Wasp Spray
Post by: MicroBalrog on September 20, 2014, 03:10:08 AM
Treat them like Royalty, you say? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_the_Romanov_family) No problem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_II_of_Russia#Assassination) Roger Wilco. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empress_Elisabeth_of_Austria#Assassination)
Title: Re: Got Home Invaders? Use Wasp Spray
Post by: griz on September 20, 2014, 08:28:33 AM
What always strikes me in advice such s this is the underlying premise that self defense is OK, but only if you don't actually plan for it.  I guess they think that if you intentionally buy something that would be effective* you are looking for trouble, while being forced in to defending yourself is OK.


*never mind that they bought the wasp spray for that purpose, it has other non-defensive uses
Title: Re: Got Home Invaders? Use Wasp Spray
Post by: HankB on September 20, 2014, 10:50:52 AM
Remember, this is NBC, the network that lied about "cop killer bullets", that lied about "exploding GM pickups", that lied about Clinton's AWB . . . NBC "news" people aren't reporters, they're lobbyists for the left.

I've noticed that some brands of wasp spray today are less effective than what I could buy years ago . . . however, Chinese wasp spray is more effective than anything you can buy locally in most places . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_Bo2ro60ro (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_Bo2ro60ro)
Title: Re: Got Home Invaders? Use Wasp Spray
Post by: Tallpine on September 20, 2014, 10:56:52 AM
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position yourself low at the top of the stairs with a rifle and shoot them as they try to come up.  (You could probably hold off a SWAT team like that.)

Gee, that never occurred to me  :angel:
Title: Re: Got Home Invaders? Use Wasp Spray
Post by: HankB on September 20, 2014, 11:34:01 AM
. . . Even better if your floorplan allows for it, position yourself low at the top of the stairs with a rifle and shoot them as they try to come up.  (You could probably hold off a SWAT team like that.)
Only if your floorboards are bulletproof.  :O
Title: Re: Got Home Invaders? Use Wasp Spray
Post by: dogmush on September 20, 2014, 11:42:15 AM
Only if your floorboards are bulletproof.  :O

Your subfloor isn't AR500? What's wrong with you?
Title: Re: Got Home Invaders? Use Wasp Spray
Post by: vaskidmark on September 20, 2014, 12:07:15 PM
Actually had some sheets leaning up against the wall at the head of the stairs back when I lived in a place with stairs.  Just long/wide enough to cover the vital parts when I was lying down.

If it were not for the poor marksmanship of the average cop (including the swatters) the armor would not be necessary.  They are taught to shoot at people parts that are visible, but to never-ever shoot through stuff someone may be hiding behind.  (Or so says the curriculum for the local academy.)

stay safe.
Title: Re: Got Home Invaders? Use Wasp Spray
Post by: Tallpine on September 20, 2014, 01:13:29 PM
Only if your floorboards are bulletproof.  :O

2x6 TnG at a flat angle ... almost maybe  =|
Title: Re: Got Home Invaders? Use Wasp Spray
Post by: MechAg94 on September 20, 2014, 05:10:20 PM
I used to clear out the wasps at the gun range a few years ago.  Most name brand wasp sprays work fine if you hit them.  That is mainly paper wasps and the little yellow jackets.  Only ones it didn't seem to affect were dirt dobbers, but they usually don't bother people.  The biggest problem is the wasps scatter whe you hit the nest and some often scatter right at you. 

However, I have never tried it on the big wasps/hornets that make those nests in the ground.  Don't see those down here too much. 
Title: Re: Got Home Invaders? Use Wasp Spray
Post by: MechAg94 on September 20, 2014, 05:11:59 PM
All that said, I agree it is dang near criminal to suggest ineffective self defense methods when effective methods are nearly as cheap as wasp spray. 
Title: Re: Got Home Invaders? Use Wasp Spray
Post by: French G. on September 20, 2014, 07:51:01 PM

However, I have never tried it on the big wasps/hornets that make those nests in the ground.  Don't see those down here too much. 

Gasoline, stand-off ignition source, some assembly required. A shop rag tied around a rock and soaked in diesel is good for fire chucking.


If I did not have a gun the go-to improvised weapon I'd be looking for would be a dry chemical fire extinguisher. Once they are blind and choking seems to be a good time to beat them with your new-found aluminum(or hopefully steel) bat.
Title: Re: Got Home Invaders? Use Wasp Spray
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on September 20, 2014, 08:39:55 PM
Gasoline, stand-off ignition source, some assembly required. A shop rag tied around a rock and soaked in diesel is good for fire chucking.


If I did not have a gun the go-to improvised weapon I'd be looking for would be a dry chemical fire extinguisher. Once they are blind and choking seems to be a good time to beat them with your new-found aluminum(or hopefully steel) bat.
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Title: Re: Got Home Invaders? Use Wasp Spray
Post by: Tallpine on September 21, 2014, 10:24:25 AM
Gasoline, stand-off ignition source, some assembly required. A shop rag tied around a rock and soaked in diesel is good for fire chucking.

In other news, authorities say a forest fire that burned over 100 thousand acres was started by a local man trying to kill wasps.

 =D
Title: Re: Got Home Invaders? Use Wasp Spray
Post by: Jamisjockey on September 21, 2014, 10:33:22 AM
In other news, authorities say a forest fire that burned over 100 thousand acres was started by a local man trying to kill wasps.

 =D

Good trade off if you're successful in killing the wasps.