Twisted Knickers - "American Sniper"

[Hawkmoon]

http://www.thewrap.com/american-sniper-complaints-grow-in-hollywood-should-clint-eastwood-be-celebrating-a-killer/

There is so much fail in this article that I could spend an entire evening trying to sum it up. Suffice it to say, a bunch of Hollyweird bedwetters and sycophants get keep their heads from exploding over the fact that ther American public likes a film about an American hero.

I haven't paid money to see a movie in a theater for about ten years (or so, but who's counting?) but I may have to make an exception and go see this one just to support Clint for having the guts to make it. The movie may not win any Oscars, but Clint can laugh all the way to the bank while the academy engages in its own brand of sniping.

[dogmush]

The Iraq war was, and still is, a mess of shades of grey.

That said, I don't think most Americans understand the differences in culture, people, and standards in Arabia.

Suffice to say, I wasn't racist until I went to Iraq and met and worked with Arabs. 

The complaints that Chris was an unrepentant killer show a glaring lack of knowledge about good and bad, and what the world is really like. Not to mention a bone deep inability to understand what soldiers and war are like.

[Hawkmoon]

The complaints that Chris was an unrepentant killer show a glaring lack of knowledge about good and bad, and what the world is really like. Not to mention a bone deep inability to understand what soldiers and war are like.

The pilots and crew of the Enola Gay were unrepentant killers, too, and they killed orders of magnitude more people than Chris Kyle could ever aspire to as a sniper. They are generally regarded as heroes. Kyle was doing a job, not unlike taking out the garbage. Criticizing him for being good at it makes as much sense as criticizing the janitor for polishing the floor too well.

What was it General Patton said about war? Oh, yes: "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country, he won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." I guess that makes Patton an unrepentant killer, too. Didn't the movie Patton win several Oscars? According to Wikipedia it did -- seven, in fact.

Patton won seven Academy Awards, including Best Picture.

• Best Picture
• Best Actor
• Best Director
• Best Original Screenplay
• Best Film Editing
• Best Sound
• Best Art Direction

Plus, it was also nominated for

• Best Cinematography
• Best Visual Effects
• Best Music, Original Score[/li
  

[Monkeyleg]

The critics won't be able to stop the public from seeing it, and I doubt that's their goal at this point. I suspect their goal is to keep the movie from winning awards.

[Scout26]

The only award that really matters is the one that goes in the bank. 

And yes, the purpose of war it to bend the enemy to your will, after diplomacy and negotiation have failed.

(And not to bend our will to our enemies, Mr. Obama).

[Hawkmoon]

The critics won't be able to stop the public from seeing it, and I doubt that's their goal at this point. I suspect their goal is to keep the movie from winning awards.

Understood. Which is why I hope the film grosses a bajillion dollars, to demonstrate (to anyone with two grey cells to rub together) how stupid and vacuous the Oscars and the critics are. Unfortunately, it's all about political correctness. The academy doesn't like Clint Eastwood anyway, because he's not a flaming liberal. I haven't seen Selma (and I have no intention of ever seeing it), but I understand it's not especially correct, historically. Yet the bleeding hearts are all up in arms because the movie wasn't nominated for anything. If anyone other than Oprah had made it, nobody would care. And now we have a bunch of clowns who have no understanding of what war is like, no comprehension of what patriotism and dedication are, who haven't even seen the movie, complaining because America has voted with their pocketbooks ... it would be ironic if it weren't so outright disgusting.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

Mikey Moore  doesn't like it either


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[Hawkmoon]

Mikey Moore  doesn't like it either

He's just upset that Clint beat him to it. I'm sure Moore would have portrayed Chris Kyle as an evil psycopath, and now he's had the opportunity snatched out from under him. The fact that the film is making money must be even more galling to him.

:applause:

[Boomhauer]

Mikey Moore  doesn't like it either


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That fat *expletive deleted*ck needs to choke on a hotdog and die. Too bad the sniper didn't shoot his father instead of his uncle, or we might have been spared the plague of idiocy.

[MechAg94]

From everything I have read, war has always been ugly business.  some people just can't understand that.

[brimic]

I haven't gone to see a movie in a couple of years, going to go see this one.

[Jamisjockey]

The pilots and crew of the Enola Gay were unrepentant killers, too, and they killed orders of magnitude more people than Chris Kyle could ever aspire to as a sniper. They are generally regarded as heroes. Kyle was doing a job, not unlike taking out the garbage. Criticizing him for being good at it makes as much sense as criticizing the janitor for polishing the floor too well.

What was it General Patton said about war? Oh, yes: "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country, he won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." I guess that makes Patton an unrepentant killer, too. Didn't the movie Patton win several Oscars? According to Wikipedia it did -- seven, in fact.

• Best Picture
• Best Actor
• Best Director
• Best Original Screenplay
• Best Film Editing
• Best Sound
• Best Art Direction

Plus, it was also nominated for

• Best Cinematography
• Best Visual Effects
• Best Music, Original Score[/li
  

Your average true believer in the cause would view the crew of the Enola gay as war criminals. 

[Ben]

I cannot believe the hate being directed towards this film. Not that, as pointed out, Eastwood will even give a crap. Also I bet 99% of the people dissing the film, including Michael Moore, would never have the courage to say what they're saying to Clint's face. Even at his age, he'd probably send them to the deck.

Between this and the Al Sharpton "emergency meeting" on race and the Oscars, it's all becoming quite ridiculous.

[makattak]

Seth Rogen apparently hated the movie as well.

I consider that an accolade.

[MechAg94]

Seth Rogen apparently hated the movie as well.

I consider that an accolade.

I figure he also knows that Eastwood wouldn't have pulled the movie due to a NK threat.

I keep wondering if the real reason for pulling that movie was it was so bad it was going to fall flat anyway.

[HankB]

. . . Didn't the movie Patton win several Oscars? . . .

I remember in our local paper, someone wrote in to complain about George C. Scott winning an Oscar for Patton (which he didn't want) instead of giving it to the guy who starred in Love Story, with much blather about war, killing, etc. vs. gentleness and kindness. The movie critic then replied "For once the Motion Picture Academy gave the Oscar to the man who deserved it, rather than the one who wanted it."   

As for American Sniper, the last time I saw such hate directed at a movie was a couple of TV critics attacking the original John Milius verson of Red Dawn. Two critics - IIRC, Lyons & Gabler - were practically foaming at the mouth as they ripped it. Then they suggested "good" alternatives to see - one was an Ingmar Bergmann "artsy" film, and the second was about a romance between two students at a British boarding school. (The school was not co-ed.     )

[Perd Hapley]

I'm trying to recall similarly reviled films. The Passion of the Christ is the only one at the top of the mind.

[Scout26]

I fail to understand the concept of people who clearly are in the "1%" having to give each other awards for playing pretend after making millions of dollars doing so.

[JN01]

I guess the lefties want more movies about real heroes such as previous films focused on Che Guevarra, Alfred Kinsey, and Harvey Milk. 

I saw American Sniper today, I thought it was top rate.

[RoadKingLarry]

Something about judging a person based on who their enemies are comes to mind.

The leftist tards  are whining about celebrating a killer, I suspect Obama has killed more people with the stroke of a pen than Kyle did with a rifle.

[makattak]

Something about judging a person based on who their enemies are comes to mind.

The leftist tards  are whining about celebrating a killer, I suspect Obama has killed more people with the stroke of a pen than Kyle did with a rifle.

Related:

Denying Golden Rice Kills

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

Fascinating. I thought it was the zomg gmo crowd behind the no golden rice


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[makattak]

Fascinating. I thought it was the zomg gmo crowd behind the no golden rice


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One may then ask how new technologies can be introduced, if it is so easy to block them. There will always be a small, vocal group opposing a new technology. On the one hand, this is correct. Introducing new technologies will become more difficult. The advances being made over the past decade in information and communication systems reduce the costs of organizing the opposition as well as the costs of communicating technology-related uncertainties. On the other hand, uncertainties over a new technology can be balanced by uncertainties over not having access to a new technology stressed by a group of stakeholders as powerful as the opposition. This seems to explain why transgenic crops have been introduced within the US but not in Europe (Graff et al., 2013).
A countervailing power supporting the GRS and stirring uncertainties about not introducing the GRS has not been explicitly considered within the model presented, as this is currently not present within the GRS debate. The GRS has been developed by scientists. Scientists have the tendency to argue based on facts and not fiction, making it more difficult to be a countervailing power against the opposition to Golden Rice. Also, uncertainties and irreversibilities about the benefits and the other costs of the GRS can be included in the model. As a worst case scenario has been employed with respect to those benefits and costs, modifications of the model in the aforementioned direction will increase the calculated perceived costs. Further, recent nutritional studies show the factors translating β-carotene of Golden Rice into vitamin A are larger than expected (Tang et al., 2012).
One question that remains to be answered within this debate is: what are the incentives of the opposition to the GRS in India? This has not yet been well investigated empirically. Apel (2010) argues that this is driven by the financial support the opposition receives. A small industry has developed around the opposition to transgenic crops that survives mainly on donations and has to keep the debate about the risks of the technology alive. This strategy seems to be a successful strategy albeit, as the case of Golden Rice shows, at the cost of the lives of several thousand children.

Effectively, you are correct, but they have convinced the governments in almost every other nation of their arguments.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

How many blind kids as a result?


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[makattak]

How many blind kids as a result?


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250,000 to 500,000 per year, according to this article. And more than half of those die within a year after going blind.