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« Reply #75 on: April 26, 2014, 03:55:35 AM »
Nor disprove fos

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« Reply #76 on: April 26, 2014, 03:57:16 AM »
Mmmmm, no.   Actually the THC is the exact same at what's in MJ.   Chemistry is Chemistry and per my oncologist many of the other cancer patients found it easier to *ingest* then to light up.  He can also adjust the dosage to meet the patients needs.  They also report positive results.    Now he wasn't a fan of smoking MJ simply because the side effects of smoking were more detrimental (increase propensity for lung cancer due to the amount of carcinogens in the smoking of MJ).

I passed on both.  I was taking enough stuff that the thought of adding one more drug would have been a bridge too far. 

I did some digging all the negative stuff I found was for recreational stuff ie spice in all its liberty loving carnations

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Re: pot is harmless
« Reply #77 on: April 26, 2014, 12:41:27 PM »
So let's see ... I can legally grow belladonna in my garden but not maryjane ...?   =|
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Re: pot is harmless
« Reply #78 on: April 26, 2014, 12:47:03 PM »
So let's see ... I can legally grow belladonna in my garden but not maryjane ...?   =|

Don't you live in montana?


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Re: pot is harmless
« Reply #79 on: April 26, 2014, 01:13:50 PM »
Don't you live in montana?

Yeah, it's probably too cold and dry here for Deadly Nightshade  =|
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Re: pot is harmless
« Reply #80 on: April 26, 2014, 02:26:52 PM »
>Amen.

I also think the crime reduction resulting from legalization claim is overstated as well.  There might be a decrease initially, but in the long run, those who lose their easy income from selling illegal drugs will find something else illicit to make money from rather than finding a real job.<

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Re: pot is harmless
« Reply #81 on: April 26, 2014, 02:40:00 PM »
>Amen.

I also think the crime reduction resulting from legalization claim is overstated as well.  There might be a decrease initially, but in the long run, those who lose their easy income from selling illegal drugs will find something else illicit to make money from rather than finding a real job.<

Lawbreakers will remain lawbreakers? Say it ain't so!

Street level drug dealers and lookouts/couriers/holders don't even make half of Federal Minimum Wage on average.  Shows how unbelievably trapped they are by short-term thinking, and incredibly unrealistic perceptions of risk/reward. It's no better than the fantasy of being a professional ball-player or a commercially successful rapper.

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Re: pot is harmless
« Reply #82 on: April 26, 2014, 03:35:30 PM »
I also think the crime reduction resulting from legalization claim is overstated as well.  There might be a decrease initially, but in the long run, those who lose their easy income from selling illegal drugs will find something else illicit to make money from rather than finding a real job

Same with politicians too, I suppose  =(
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Re: pot is harmless
« Reply #83 on: April 26, 2014, 05:46:35 PM »
Heard about a guy who had a whole bagful of pot leaves he got from a friend.  He said that the leaves are not much for smoking.  He put the entire pile along with a bit of water into his blender and made a mash out of it.  Then he mixed it up with the fixins for brownies and baked 'em.  He said he was walking around behind the little animals for several hours after eating one of the brownies.  He's a guy who's smoked pot for years and said he'd never had a buzz so intense.

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« Reply #84 on: April 26, 2014, 08:03:13 PM »
kicking in doors and killing people/dogs because plants are growing is exactly why this country was founded! those dang heathens were also half nekkid!
somebody has to tell people what to because if we don't have the .gov controlling every aspect of our lives, racist will drag children by chaining them to their pickup trucks  & straight white christian men will vote for woman's suffrage!
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« Reply #85 on: April 26, 2014, 09:44:32 PM »
kicking in doors and killing people/dogs because plants are growing is exactly why this country was founded! those dang heathens were also half nekkid!

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Re: pot is harmless
« Reply #86 on: April 26, 2014, 10:44:04 PM »
Ayup... that is SO much more acceptable than folks getting buzzed! After all, those lawless folks would just find some other crime to break!
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Re: pot is harmless
« Reply #87 on: April 27, 2014, 09:32:51 PM »
Most of the violent acts committed are over things directly related to their illegal activity, (turf wars, and keeping "order" and control) if the activity is legal their criminal activity level would drop. Al Capone was a bad guy and prone to violence, but he mostly killed because of outside factors such as his rivals, and his desire to expand his turf. Without the alcohol war he would not have actually committed most of his crimes.

Outside of prohibition (drugs or alcohol) what has had such a high violence rate? I am guessing nothing.
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Re: pot is harmless
« Reply #88 on: April 27, 2014, 09:57:25 PM »
interesting article    especially the part about prices      http://www.columbian.com/news/2014/apr/13/colorado-adjusts-to-marijuana-centennial-states-ex/
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Re: pot is harmless
« Reply #89 on: April 27, 2014, 10:13:16 PM »
Friends around the campfire, and everybody's high ....


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Re: pot is harmless
« Reply #90 on: April 28, 2014, 02:59:45 AM »
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Re: pot is harmless
« Reply #91 on: April 28, 2014, 11:11:32 AM »
Not nearly so many liquor retailers shooting up competitors these days as when ethyl alcohol was verboten.

I would wager more ethyl is consumed per capita, though.  I think the trade-off is worth it.

As long as I can still ridicule, hold up as a terrible warning, and in general treat those whose actions I deem objectionable as pariahs, I say legalize it all and let Darwin sort it out.

I generally avoid those with overtly abuse alcohol already.  Adding folks who overtly (ab)use MJ or other drugs for recreation and self-befuddlement is no great stretch.

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Re: pot is harmless
« Reply #92 on: April 28, 2014, 01:48:01 PM »
If MJ is at all bad, the tort lawyers will have a hey-day with legal pot  :P
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« Reply #93 on: April 28, 2014, 04:15:26 PM »
I am most amused that legal pot is more pricey still. Folks getting rich . And that has always been the goal

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Re: pot is harmless
« Reply #94 on: April 28, 2014, 04:29:20 PM »
Most of the violent acts committed are over things directly related to their illegal activity, (turf wars, and keeping "order" and control) if the activity is legal their criminal activity level would drop. Al Capone was a bad guy and prone to violence, but he mostly killed because of outside factors such as his rivals, and his desire to expand his turf. Without the alcohol war he would not have actually committed most of his crimes.

Capone wasn't involved in running booze because he was an aficionado of fine spirits, the fact that it was illegal made it very lucrative.  He was a thug that likely would have found another criminal enterprise, had Prohibition not been enacted. 

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Re: pot is harmless
« Reply #95 on: April 28, 2014, 05:08:50 PM »
Friends around the campfire, and everybody's high ....

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