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Re: Coyote attacks on dogs on the rise in Denver neighborhood
« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2014, 04:16:14 PM »
East coast yotes are odd too. Bigger for one. Bolder


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There are also coyote/wolf hybrids.  Coywolves are larger than coyotes, and cooperate better.
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Re: Coyote attacks on dogs on the rise in Denver neighborhood
« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2014, 04:26:32 PM »
There are also coyote/wolf hybrids.  Coywolves are larger than coyotes, and cooperate better.

Yup thats what we have.


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Re: Coyote attacks on dogs on the rise in Denver neighborhood
« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2014, 04:35:00 PM »
What about wereyotes  ???
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Re: Coyote attacks on dogs on the rise in Denver neighborhood
« Reply #28 on: August 25, 2014, 04:47:06 PM »
That would be that one in a million chance.

Were they coyotes or coy-dogs. Coy-dogs are a whole different animal in behavior.

They were coyotes, by all reports. There were witnesses.
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Re: Coyote attacks on dogs on the rise in Denver neighborhood
« Reply #29 on: August 25, 2014, 05:27:22 PM »
They were coyotes, by all reports. There were witnesses.
Iirc they killed and examined at least one of the yotes


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Re: Coyote attacks on dogs on the rise in Denver neighborhood
« Reply #30 on: August 25, 2014, 06:54:53 PM »
Iirc they killed and examined at least one of the yotes


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Three according to wiki. (that were in the attack, a couple extra were killed)  They were yotes.

The coyotes we have down here are much more brazen than the ones I met (or didn't) out west.  Less predation maybe?

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« Reply #31 on: August 25, 2014, 07:29:33 PM »
That's my guess too. We declared war on em here they got shy again.
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Re: Coyote attacks on dogs on the rise in Denver neighborhood
« Reply #32 on: August 25, 2014, 07:31:26 PM »
An interesting thing to point out is that being Denver, there is a high likelihood that there are mountain lions just as close by.

Well there was a report of one prowling around a local school a couple of years ago, and right around then I found some tracks in the snow which weren't doggy-type tracks (no claws showing)>

Haven't seen or heard of any evidence of mountain lions since, but speaking of sneaky, from what I heard, they're pretty shy.

However, a couple of weeks ago on a Saturday some visitors to one of our residents had a medium dog running around loose and I saw it wander into the untended pasture with lots of high grass and weeds. 

Saw it from my balcony in the AM.  I was motivated to go out to warn them, but didn't get a chance.

By PM, go-home time, they were out there calling for it for anhour or two.  Dog's name was Andy.

They were back Sunday, scouting all over the place, still calling for it.

Don't know what the final upshot was, but I have strong suspicions that Andy met his end. 

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Re: Coyote attacks on dogs on the rise in Denver neighborhood
« Reply #33 on: August 25, 2014, 07:33:52 PM »
I see coyotes at least a few times a week on the family farm. The neighbor said they just killed the last of his pygmy goats. He said they don't seem to bother his sheep for some reason. They also stay well clear of the emu.  =D
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Re: Coyote attacks on dogs on the rise in Denver neighborhood
« Reply #34 on: August 25, 2014, 07:54:04 PM »
Lost a hen last week . Looking for a donkey or pony to take care of biz.or maybe a lama


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Re: Coyote attacks on dogs on the rise in Denver neighborhood
« Reply #35 on: August 25, 2014, 07:56:21 PM »
Lost a hen last week . Looking for a donkey or pony to take care of biz.or maybe a lama


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Yeah, this neighbor has three lamas too, and they also seem to be coyote resistant.
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Re: Coyote attacks on dogs on the rise in Denver neighborhood
« Reply #36 on: August 25, 2014, 08:13:30 PM »
Yeah, this neighbor has three lamas too, and they also seem to be coyote resistant.
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Re: Coyote attacks on dogs on the rise in Denver neighborhood
« Reply #37 on: August 25, 2014, 08:41:48 PM »
Makes me wonder if someone makes a walking stick with a brass end cap that a spear point can be added to easily.  I know about the self defense canes.  Yes, a gun would be better, but a good walking stick is a good backup.

a big stick for wacking would also be good if the coyote's had a hold of something you didn't want to shoot, like your dog. Use the stick to beat it off and then blammo.
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Re: Coyote attacks on dogs on the rise in Denver neighborhood
« Reply #38 on: August 25, 2014, 08:43:10 PM »
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Re: Coyote attacks on dogs on the rise in Denver neighborhood
« Reply #39 on: August 25, 2014, 11:24:31 PM »
We've had 'em walk through the backyard, past the house, across the front yard then cross the road - at 4:00pm.  Two different 'yotes have stood at the back barbwire fence (~75 yards from the house) in the afternoon while the 30# dog & I walked to within ~20 yards of them before taking off.  Took the dog out one night about midnight, two of them came walking into the front yard less than 20 yards from the front porch just as the dog came back onto the porch.  One stood there looking at me (across the sights of the .357) for a few minutes while the other one kept on walking, then circled around through the brush to come back alongside the one standing; then they just walked off.  I let them go 'cause I didn't want to dig a hole the next day.

A few weeks later, while sitting in the back yard after dark, a half dozen of them gathered in the yard, then headed out.  That finally convinced SWMBO that having a shotgun loaded with slugs next to the back door isn't necessarily a bad thing.

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Re: Coyote attacks on dogs on the rise in Denver neighborhood
« Reply #40 on: August 25, 2014, 11:24:39 PM »
I hear them a lot, and find their tracks and scat, but hardly ever actually see them unless I'm out very early in the morning. Bit shy in these parts.

Yeah, this neighbor has three lamas too, and they also seem to be coyote resistant.

A lot of farmers around here get llamas to protect their goats and sheep from coyotes. From what I understand, if you get one male llama and keep them with your herd, they'll bond with that herd and defend it. If you have more than one llama, they'll ignore the other animals and only hang out with and defend themselves.
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Re: Coyote attacks on dogs on the rise in Denver neighborhood
« Reply #41 on: August 25, 2014, 11:33:16 PM »
Cows kill more people annually then coyotes do, but you don't hear about "I'm going to shoot that cow if it comes near my house".

Deer are more deadly than coyotes.

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Re: Coyote attacks on dogs on the rise in Denver neighborhood
« Reply #42 on: August 25, 2014, 11:49:56 PM »
With my nocturnal schedule I see 'yotes pretty regularly, probably a couple a week. Last cougar encounter though was several months ago at the VFW. I'm no longer on their menu, too old.
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Re: Coyote attacks on dogs on the rise in Denver neighborhood
« Reply #43 on: August 26, 2014, 05:38:33 AM »
Cows kill more people annually then coyotes do, but you don't hear about "I'm going to shoot that cow if it comes near my house".

Deer are more deadly than coyotes.

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Re: Coyote attacks on dogs on the rise in Denver neighborhood
« Reply #44 on: August 26, 2014, 08:14:54 AM »
Here in Dupage and Cook counties (think Chicago) we're thick with coyotes.

I ride single track early in the mornings and see them frequently. Also around late afternoon/dusk you'll see them. We have a lot of greenways along rivers, creeks and canals not to mention an inordinate amount of train tracks. All of those give them a thoroughfare to get from one forest preserve/golf course to the next. 

Increasingly over the years they've become bolder. I've been within 15 feet on multiple occasions while riding and they've just looked at me and sauntered off.
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Re: Coyote attacks on dogs on the rise in Denver neighborhood
« Reply #45 on: August 26, 2014, 08:37:51 AM »
You also have deer in Chicago.  A friend of mine was running on one of the greenways and saw a deer.  She ran right by the deer, just a few feet away, and the deer didn't even flinch.
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Re: Coyote attacks on dogs on the rise in Denver neighborhood
« Reply #46 on: August 26, 2014, 08:47:07 AM »
You also have deer in Chicago.  A friend of mine was running on one of the greenways and saw a deer.  She ran right by the deer, just a few feet away, and the deer didn't even flinch.

We have so many deer that they are quietly culled from the forest preserves every fall.

Only those of us who regularly use the preserves see when they close them down at night for the paid hunters. I suspect they have a rather extensive baiting program so they can have safe lanes of fire and higher success rates.
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Re: Coyote attacks on dogs on the rise in Denver neighborhood
« Reply #47 on: August 26, 2014, 09:29:54 AM »
You also have deer in Chicago.  A friend of mine was running on one of the greenways and saw a deer.  She ran right by the deer, just a few feet away, and the deer didn't even flinch.

I hit a deer on a bike in college, I got to experience Newton's first law. I'm just glad I landed on sand instead of the paved trail I was riding on.
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Re: Coyote attacks on dogs on the rise in Denver neighborhood
« Reply #48 on: August 26, 2014, 10:21:19 AM »
First month I had my current bike I hit a doe. She crossed in front of me right to left and I clipped her back hooves with the highway bars on the left side.
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Re: Coyote attacks on dogs on the rise in Denver neighborhood
« Reply #49 on: August 26, 2014, 10:34:20 AM »
I hit a deer on a bike in college, I got to experience Newton's first law. I'm just glad I landed on sand instead of the paved trail I was riding on.

A guy I used to bike with hit a deer while doing 25+ mph on an expensive carbon bike.  He was pretty banged up, the bike was trashed, and I think the deer died as well.

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