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Title: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: MillCreek on August 31, 2011, 11:08:20 AM
http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/nature/Totally-Psyched-for-the-Full-Rip-Nine.html

My county emergency response administrative team sent out an email link to this article.  It examines the impact of a 9.0 earthquake and subsequent tsunami on the Pacific Northwest coast.  It has been 311 years since the last such quake, and apparently we are overdue. 
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: Tallpine on August 31, 2011, 02:10:59 PM
If Ranier erupts, you will all be covered with mud.
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: Harold Tuttle on August 31, 2011, 02:20:57 PM
i await the asteroid that happens to intersect with the yellowstone caldera

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Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: makattak on August 31, 2011, 02:46:23 PM
I'm not going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest, thank you very much.
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: coppertales on August 31, 2011, 04:18:44 PM
Me either.......................................................................my wife wants me to move from nice warm Texas to the frigid artic of the UP of MI.......chris3
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 31, 2011, 05:36:36 PM
It has been 311 years since the last such quake, and apparently we are overdue. 

Punctuality ain't all it's cracked up to be.
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: MillCreek on August 31, 2011, 05:48:02 PM
Well, as the article makes clear, your chance of death is increased if you are on the coastal Pacific Northwest when the quake and tsunami hit.  In the Midwest, not so much.
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: charby on August 31, 2011, 10:15:59 PM
Seems like every major human killer natural disaster is overdue.
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: Fly320s on September 01, 2011, 05:56:56 AM
I call DIBS on all your guns and cool stuff!
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: Monkeyleg on September 01, 2011, 08:45:16 AM
If it's been 311 years since the last quake, can it still be blamed on climate change?

Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: 280plus on September 01, 2011, 08:45:58 AM
I call DIBS on all your guns and cool stuff!
You beat me dammit!  :mad:

Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: Ben on September 01, 2011, 09:21:38 AM
Seems like every major human killer natural disaster is overdue.

In more ways than one.
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: 41magsnub on September 01, 2011, 09:48:29 AM
Just as long as it doesn't happen this weekend I'm cool!
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: coppertales on September 01, 2011, 10:08:06 AM
Does that mean all those hippies in the NW will finally get a bath when the NW falls into the sea?  chris3
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: 280plus on September 01, 2011, 10:10:52 AM
Truckloads of Drano to the NW,,, STAT!  :O
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: birdman on September 01, 2011, 05:23:23 PM
Seems like every major human killer natural disaster is overdue.

Mathematical fallacy, probabilistic events (asteroid impacts, etc) can't be "overdue"...earthquakes are an exception though, due to continual buildup in strain...the longer the time between releases (for a given fault), the higher the energy of the release.  Um...
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giggity.
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: Balog on September 01, 2011, 06:30:41 PM
http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/nature/Totally-Psyched-for-the-Full-Rip-Nine.html

My county emergency response administrative team sent out an email link to this article.  It examines the impact of a 9.0 earthquake and subsequent tsunami on the Pacific Northwest coast.  It has been 311 years since the last such quake, and apparently we are overdue. 

We have an emergency response administrative team?
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: RocketMan on September 01, 2011, 10:46:02 PM
I call DIBS on all your guns and cool stuff!

You can have my guns when you pry them from my cold, dead, wet, crushed by falling debris, drowned by tsunami fingers.
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: RocketMan on September 01, 2011, 10:55:28 PM
Neskowin South Beach, stumps of ancient trees exposed by shifting sands. (http://www.oregonlive.com/environment/index.ssf/2008/09/reasearch_on_neskowin_stumps_c.html)  The trees were submerged when an earthquake dropped the coastline 1700-2000 years ago.  Pretty cool place.
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: Northwoods on September 01, 2011, 11:56:20 PM
Just as long as it doesn't happen this weekend I'm cool!

So long as we're out to sea on the charter boat when it happens we'll be just fine.  Just a slightly bigger swell than the rest of them.  Finding our trucks when we get back to what's left of the docks though will be another matter.
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: InfidelSerf on September 02, 2011, 12:54:46 AM
I can't wait.   Should make our new home in Las Vegas worth more.
Seeing as it could be ocean front property.  [popcorn]
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: Regolith on September 02, 2011, 01:05:47 AM
I can't wait.   Should make our new home in Las Vegas worth more.
Seeing as it could be ocean front property.  [popcorn]

I think your geography is a bit off....the area in question is along the Juan de Fuca subduction zone, which ranges from far northern California to southern British Columbia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_de_Fuca_Plate
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: InfidelSerf on September 02, 2011, 01:15:16 AM
DOH  :facepalm: my bad I didn't even bother reading the link. 
So my reference is to the generally accepted idea that one day
southern California is going to break off.
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: 280plus on September 02, 2011, 07:38:23 AM
It almost did once but Superman saved the day. Then he turned time back and saved Lois Lane too. Superman is awesome. Way better than Batman, who has no super powers, just a bunch of widgets.  :P
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: birdman on September 02, 2011, 08:14:06 AM
It almost did once but Superman saved the day. Then he turned time back and saved Lois Lane too. Superman is awesome. Way better than Batman, who has no super powers, just a bunch of widgets.  :P

I've said this before, and I'll say it again, if you really think about, superman is not only a commie (I'll get into that later) but really, an a$$hole.   Let's examine:

We have superman, endowed by his Kryptonian biology and earth's "yellow" (actually white, but that's beside the point) sun with superpowers including: immortality, bulletproof, super speed, super strength, heat vision, cold breath, x-ray vision, and he can fly....basically the ultimate jock.

And his arch nemesis, lux luthor who is...wait for it....smart.  That's it, no superpowers, just smart.  So lex, in true capitalist fashion, decides to make a buck, of course, he's got a weird streak and flexible morals, so his ideas could best be categorized as schemes, at the beginning, but rather than simply instructing lex that it's far easier to make vast piles of money legally if you are beyond genius smart, superman basically foils his plans with ever increasing levels of jock-titude, teaching lex, instead, that super genetic freak jocks will always win (and get the girl) over lowly super smart nerds.  Needless to say, this causes some angst, and he strikes out at his tormentor, superjock, with increasingly outlandish plans, putting the rest of the world into a position as bystanders to "revenge of the nerds 16: nerd strikes back with doomsday weapons".

So it seems the moral of the story is "smart capitalists who thrive on personal responsibility and try to make things happen for themselves will always lose to genetically superior superjocks who want to save everybody, protect the world".   

Needless to say, thinking about that, one can't help but pity lex for not having a good Econ 101 teacher, and look at superman less like "hero of humanity" (odd, given that he is an alien) and more like the big angry guy in revenge of the nerds pummeling the smart kids because they convinced the other retarded jock worshipers to give him their lunch money.
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: 280plus on September 02, 2011, 08:27:14 AM
That was beautiful...  :'(

 :lol:
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: freakazoid on September 02, 2011, 09:02:28 AM
In the graphic novel Superman: Red Son he actually is a commie, it's a what if he landed in Russia instead of America. It's pretty good, and Batmans character = full of win.  =D
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: 280plus on September 02, 2011, 09:41:30 AM
I like Batman. I just like to bust his Bat Balls every once in a while about the whole suprhero without super powers thing. it's something to do.  [tinfoil]
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: AJ Dual on September 02, 2011, 09:59:16 AM
I've said this before, and I'll say it again, if you really think about, superman is not only a commie (I'll get into that later) but really, an a$$hole.   Let's examine:

We have superman, endowed by his Kryptonian biology and earth's "yellow" (actually white, but that's beside the point) sun with superpowers including: immortality, bulletproof, super speed, super strength, heat vision, cold breath, x-ray vision, and he can fly....basically the ultimate jock.

And his arch nemesis, lux luthor who is...wait for it....smart.  That's it, no superpowers, just smart.  So lex, in true capitalist fashion, decides to make a buck, of course, he's got a weird streak and flexible morals, so his ideas could best be categorized as schemes, at the beginning, but rather than simply instructing lex that it's far easier to make vast piles of money legally if you are beyond genius smart, superman basically foils his plans with ever increasing levels of jock-titude, teaching lex, instead, that super genetic freak jocks will always win (and get the girl) over lowly super smart nerds.  Needless to say, this causes some angst, and he strikes out at his tormentor, superjock, with increasingly outlandish plans, putting the rest of the world into a position as bystanders to "revenge of the nerds 16: nerd strikes back with doomsday weapons".

So it seems the moral of the story is "smart capitalists who thrive on personal responsibility and try to make things happen for themselves will always lose to genetically superior superjocks who want to save everybody, protect the world".   

Needless to say, thinking about that, one can't help but pity lex for not having a good Econ 101 teacher, and look at superman less like "hero of humanity" (odd, given that he is an alien) and more like the big angry guy in revenge of the nerds pummeling the smart kids because they convinced the other retarded jock worshipers to give him their lunch money.

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Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: birdman on September 02, 2011, 10:02:25 AM
I like Batman. I just like to bust his Bat Balls every once in a while about the whole suprhero without super powers thing. it's something to do.  [tinfoil]

Then you should also bust on:
Green lantern (needs the ring)
Green arrow (lame in general, but is still an equipment superhero)
All the watchmen except dr. Manhattan...unless "flexible morality and the ability to take a beating" are powers...and even ozy was just "smart"
Etc.

If you think about it, batman is more like lex luthor (uses smarts to build stuff to defeat true super powered folks) than superman.

Anyway, really, what's wrong with most of Luthor's plans..."innocent victims"?  Really the only thing evil is usually just one step in his larger plan.

For example:
Plan: to make money in real estate by purchasing property that is undervalued, and will be highly valuable if consequences change (e.g. Arizona and CA desert if CA falls into the ocean)
Problem: that will take millions of years
Evil solution: speed up process
The bulk of the plan was okay, except that last part.

One could say the same thing if the plan was:
I'm a green-weenie bliss ninny and think the sea level will rise 5 feet in 10 years
Plan: buy undervalued stuff back from beach, and short the beachfront property, then wait.  
Evil variant: invest heavily in industries that make money off greenhouse gasses to speed along my plan
Effectively the same as the luthor plan, but now (if you truly believe in the rapidity of anthrogenic warming) the evil part was executed by everyone on earth!  We are all helping lex luthor! (played in this movie by china)
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: birdman on September 02, 2011, 10:02:55 AM
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Hey!  Where did you get my prom picture!   >:D
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: 280plus on September 02, 2011, 10:41:43 AM
GIRLS!! Oh, I'm sorry, what were you saying?  >:D
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: 280plus on September 02, 2011, 10:43:10 AM
FTR, I always thought the Green Arrow was a little gay.  ;)
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on September 02, 2011, 12:04:18 PM
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what movies is that pic from?
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: vaskidmark on September 02, 2011, 12:13:38 PM
AKKK!  YOU ARE GONNA DIE!  RUN FOR THE HILLS!  CALL OUT THE NATIONAL GUARD!  EGERMANCY [sic]!  EGERMANCY[sic]!*

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/02/asaska-earthquake-2011-71_n_946264.html?icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl1%7Csec3_lnk2%7C92223

7.1 quake hits Fox Islands/Aleutian Islands.

Break out the surfboards.

I guess this would be Bush's Fault II?

stay safe.


* bonus internets for anyone who can remember why "EGERMANCY" is the correct spelling.
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: Regolith on September 02, 2011, 07:50:26 PM
<snip>

Not to mention, Superman is a bit of a wimp (and somewhat dumb) for someone with all those powers.  I mean, you said it yourself; the only thing his arch-nemesis has going for him is smarts.  If Superman weren't dumb as a brick, he'd have grabbed Lex Luthor and tossed him into the sun a long time ago.  Or just broke his neck. Or cut him in half with his laser vision.  Or frozen him with his breath. Or just punched him in the face.  How many times are you going to let a guy kill a bunch of people and come close to killing you (such as in Superman Returns) before you decide to get rid of him for good? Especially when you could destroy the guy without even trying?

I mean, damn.  Batman at least fights villains who are actually his equal.  Superman fights way below his level and still nearly loses.
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: birdman on September 02, 2011, 11:15:26 PM
Not to mention, Superman is a bit of a wimp (and somewhat dumb) for someone with all those powers.  I mean, you said it yourself; the only thing his arch-nemesis has going for him is smarts.  If Superman weren't dumb as a brick, he'd have grabbed Lex Luthor and tossed him into the sun a long time ago.  Or just broke his neck. Or cut him in half with his laser vision.  Or frozen him with his breath. Or just punched him in the face.  How many times are you going to let a guy kill a bunch of people and come close to killing you (such as in Superman Returns) before you decide to get rid of him for good? Especially when you could destroy the guy without even trying?

I mean, damn.  Batman at least fights villains who are actually his equal.  Superman fights way below his level and still nearly loses.

In other words...a jock.
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: makattak on September 02, 2011, 11:29:11 PM
Not to mention, Superman is a bit of a wimp (and somewhat dumb) for someone with all those powers.  I mean, you said it yourself; the only thing his arch-nemesis has going for him is smarts.  If Superman weren't dumb as a brick, he'd have grabbed Lex Luthor and tossed him into the sun a long time ago.  Or just broke his neck. Or cut him in half with his laser vision.  Or frozen him with his breath. Or just punched him in the face.  How many times are you going to let a guy kill a bunch of people and come close to killing you (such as in Superman Returns) before you decide to get rid of him for good? Especially when you could destroy the guy without even trying?

I mean, damn.  Batman at least fights villains who are actually his equal.  Superman fights way below his level and still nearly loses.

Actually, while I would argue Batman is the far better hero and role model, Superman represents the United States.

Always fighting far below his full abilities. (Though the comics actually have had some super-powered villians that are close to him in ability and even a few that surpass.)

Always restraining himself in a fight, never using his full powers. Always holding back for fear of hurting the bad guys too much. Worried about collateral damage. (Except for the second fight with Doomsday, but, again, that's the comics.)
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: Chuck Dye on September 03, 2011, 03:31:36 AM
Being Superman on Earth may not be that super.  Read Man of Steel, Woman of Tissue Paper (http://www.rawbw.com/~svw/superman.html).
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: Scout26 on September 03, 2011, 11:14:24 AM
I always wondered why he had to duck the thrown revolver after standing firm and taking six slugs to the chest.
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: 280plus on September 03, 2011, 07:38:16 PM
Well, all I got to say is this. the PNW is about to fall into the ocean causing massive loss of life and property. Who you going to call to save the day, Batman or Superman?  :P
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: birdman on September 03, 2011, 09:38:57 PM
Well, all I got to say is this. the PNW is about to fall into the ocean causing massive loss of life and property. Who you going to call to save the day, Batman or Superman?  :P

C.  A non-fictional character :)
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: makattak on September 03, 2011, 09:49:21 PM
C.  A non-fictional character :)

I disagree. If the PNW is about to fall into the ocean, calling Batman or Superman is going to do just as much good as calling a non-fictional character.
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: roo_ster on September 03, 2011, 10:35:07 PM
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Hey!  Where did you get my prom picture!   >:D

You hired hookers?  'Cause that's what they are dressed like, IMO.
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: MillCreek on September 04, 2011, 12:46:22 AM
So are they twins, sisters, or is the one in the back in the long dress the mother?
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: birdman on September 04, 2011, 07:30:57 AM
I disagree. If the PNW is about to fall into the ocean, calling Batman or Superman is going to do just as much good as calling a non-fictional character.

Depends, if you bribe me with enough bacon and beer, I'll turn the earthquake machine off.
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: 280plus on September 04, 2011, 08:41:20 AM
I disagree. If the PNW is about to fall into the ocean, calling Batman or Superman is going to do just as much good as calling a non-fictional character.
My point exactly.   ;)

 =D
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: tokugawa on September 05, 2011, 12:45:47 AM
The last one was in 1700. They got the exact date and time from the record of the tsunami-in Japan.  Lots of people here have no idea we are a class 4 earthquake zone.  The nisqually quake a few years ago was a 7 or so- I walked out into the field to get away from falling objects and watched the ground roll in swells toward me.  My wife was on her motorcycle =D. I hope to miss the big one.
Title: Re: We are all going to die in the coastal Pacific Northwest
Post by: MicroBalrog on September 05, 2011, 04:59:14 AM
You hired hookers?  'Cause that's what they are dressed like, IMO.

Why would I attend my senior prom with a girl wearing anything longer?

OSNAP. I wouldn't.