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Re: No one wants to take your guns
« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2015, 02:29:59 PM »
Secondly, if they're afraid of "gun violence", getting us to a place where we have nothing to loose, gun owners who are not gangbangers, and not loner nutjobs looking for body count to get their day in the media spotlight to make up for a failed life will be offering "gun violence" in quantities they cannot handle.

It will be accurate, directed, and planned gun violence. Delivered by hunters, veterans, and people who belong to gun clubs and who play gun sports designed to deliver rapid accurate fire as efficiently as possible. And it will be aimed at the people we deem responsible, not random people in malls, schools, or movie theaters, or the police.

Which is why it's not going to happen. The whackjob liberals can rave and rant all they want but they won't be the ones attemping the confiscation because after all they are pussies...and by and large the popo and military isn't dumb enough to try (they happen to like being alive)

Kinda hard to even attempt confiscation without the manpower, and that's even before you factor in the resistance that would happen.

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Re: No one wants to take your guns
« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2015, 08:26:26 PM »
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Secondly, if they're afraid of "gun violence", getting us to a place where we have nothing to loose, gun owners who are not gangbangers, and not loner nutjobs looking for body count to get their day in the media spotlight to make up for a failed life will be offering "gun violence" in quantities they cannot handle.

It will be accurate, directed, and planned gun violence. Delivered by hunters, veterans, and people who belong to gun clubs and who play gun sports designed to deliver rapid accurate fire as efficiently as possible. And it will be aimed at the people we deem responsible, not random people in malls, schools, or movie theaters, or the police.


Never gonna happen like that. Not enough spine/gonads left in the species. Oh, there might be a few hold outs/stand-offs but nothing the nightly news can't paint as some kind of right wing, Christian, nutjob, extremist/terrorist plot.

The left just has to find the right catalyst to bring about some kind of minor race riot or such that gets righteously quelled by legally armed citizens. The citizens get painted as racists/bigots/terrorists and we end up with some kind of executive order or possibly limited martial law and we're done. It'll be turn them in or get taken down quietly in the middle of the night, one at a time, with the next days news telling us all about a vile terrorist cell being taken down the night before. Hell even FOX News won't be able to tell the truth from the lies.
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Re: No one wants to take your guns
« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2015, 11:29:36 PM »

Never gonna happen like that. Not enough spine/gonads left in the species. Oh, there might be a few hold outs/stand-offs but nothing the nightly news can't paint as some kind of right wing, Christian, nutjob, extremist/terrorist plot.

The left just has to find the right catalyst to bring about some kind of minor race riot or such that gets righteously quelled by legally armed citizens. The citizens get painted as racists/bigots/terrorists and we end up with some kind of executive order or possibly limited martial law and we're done. It'll be turn them in or get taken down quietly in the middle of the night, one at a time, with the next days news telling us all about a vile terrorist cell being taken down the night before. Hell even FOX News won't be able to tell the truth from the lies.
I think you might be surprised ... .... 
Which is why it's not going to happen. The whackjob liberals can rave and rant all they want but they won't be the ones attemping the confiscation because after all they are pussies...and by and large the popo and military isn't dumb enough to try (they happen to like being alive)

Kinda hard to even attempt confiscation without the manpower, and that's even before you factor in the resistance that would happen.
  And there is what I think is a far more likely reason why it might not happen ..... and even then, I'm NOT 100% sure ......
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Re: No one wants to take your guns
« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2015, 10:57:22 AM »

Never gonna happen like that. Not enough spine/gonads left in the species. Oh, there might be a few hold outs/stand-offs but nothing the nightly news can't paint as some kind of right wing, Christian, nutjob, extremist/terrorist plot.

The left just has to find the right catalyst to bring about some kind of minor race riot or such that gets righteously quelled by legally armed citizens. The citizens get painted as racists/bigots/terrorists and we end up with some kind of executive order or possibly limited martial law and we're done. It'll be turn them in or get taken down quietly in the middle of the night, one at a time, with the next days news telling us all about a vile terrorist cell being taken down the night before. Hell even FOX News won't be able to tell the truth from the lies.

It wouldn't take very many.
Remember, Dorner kept all of LAPD pinned down for weeks- even causing them to make huge public relations nightmares for themselves by firing on innocent people, and he was just a single guy with some mediocre tactics not even going after the head of the snake.
Imagine what hell there would be when you see small coordinated teams acting... it only takes a few and others might join in. You can expect the rulers to strike back in a hamfisted manner killing innocents in their wake. This is simply Guerrilla 101.
The guys who have already lost are the ones who decide they will turn in their guns or will wait for the SWAT team to show up to take them.
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Re: No one wants to take your guns
« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2015, 11:13:03 AM »
You are hearing it here first.  The Democrat convention will become deadlocked over Hillary and Bernie and then will come a draft movement for Uncle Joe and he will be the candidate.
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Re: No one wants to take your guns
« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2015, 05:50:14 PM »
It wouldn't take very many.
Remember, Dorner kept all of LAPD pinned down for weeks- even causing them to make huge public relations nightmares for themselves by firing on innocent people, and he was just a single guy with some mediocre tactics not even going after the head of the snake.
Imagine what hell there would be when you see small coordinated teams acting... it only takes a few and others might join in. You can expect the rulers to strike back in a hamfisted manner killing innocents in their wake. This is simply Guerrilla 101.
The guys who have already lost are the ones who decide they will turn in their guns or will wait for the SWAT team to show up to take them.

Yep, the "Troubles" in N. Ireland, and at times when the fight was taken to the rest of the U.K. in terms of bombings etc. and kept the RIC, Scotland Yard, and the MoD/SAS tied up for decades. There were only a dozen active bombers/triggermen at any given time, and roughly 10x more who were sympathetic and gave more passive forms of logistical support.

Looking at what Dorner did in L.A., or Lee and Malvo in the D.C. Metro..., or the Tsarnaev's in Boston, we don't need 3% which is the common mantra of the quasi militant Right in the U.S. right now, the figures of those "willing to actually fight" in the Revolutionary War.  As little as .003-.0003% would wreak havoc and bring the country to a standstill and could be enough to get the whole ball rolling.

And if they had ANY veteran support, or advice from those in spec-ops, or from those versed in insurgency/counterinsurgency holy hell... If word of the aims or goals of any such ruckus got out, and it was clear they weren't targeting random civilians, but those pushing gun control, gun confiscation, or other un-American collectivist/Statist solutions, many police and combat-arms military units might even be sympathetic.

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Re: No one wants to take your guns
« Reply #31 on: October 22, 2015, 07:21:21 PM »
I suspect the above scenarios are possible and possibly coming.

Hopefully I'm gone by the time it comes down to Americans taking up arms against our own government.

At 51 my political mindset was forged in the Reagan era. The thought of the country descending into such a state from the ideal and potential Reagan inspired in me would damn near kill me before the Feds even made it around for my guns.
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Re: No one wants to take your guns
« Reply #32 on: October 27, 2015, 08:19:29 PM »
I think that we will just be ruined economically, to the point that owning weapons and the ammunition to feed them is just not feasible for the average American.
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Re: No one wants to take your guns
« Reply #33 on: October 27, 2015, 09:21:52 PM »
Getting back to Uncle Joe  (he doesn't like guns so talking about him is on topic).  Limbaugh had a piece on his show either yesterday or today in which he believes that Joe will jump in and the speech he made when he said he wasn't running was a solid indictor that he would; that it was a setup to his running.
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