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Title: BOHICA
Post by: Angel Eyes on January 21, 2021, 08:20:02 PM
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-drilling-interior/biden-administration-suspends-federal-oil-and-gas-permitting-idUSKBN29Q2N1

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(Reuters) - U.S. President Joe Biden’s administration has temporarily suspended oil and gas permitting on federal lands and waters in the latest of a series of rapid-fire orders aimed at fighting climate change and tamping down the U.S. fossil fuel industry.

The order appeared to be a first step in delivering on newly sworn-in Biden’s campaign pledge to permanently ban new drilling on federal acreage. Federal leases account for close to 25% of the nation’s crude oil output, making them a big contributor to energy supply but also to America’s greenhouse gas emissions.

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“This is a frack ban,” Anne Bradbury, chief executive of the drilling trade group American Exploration & Production Council, said in an interview. “Even just for 60 days, it’s a really aggressive move.”

Frack ban.

Frack Biden.

Title: Re: BOHICA
Post by: Andiron on January 21, 2021, 08:27:15 PM
Here comes $4 diesel.

Gonna start smoking again at this rate.
Title: Re: BOHICA
Post by: Boomhauer on January 21, 2021, 08:31:19 PM
Here comes $4 diesel.

Gonna start smoking again at this rate.

At least I won’t have to worry about being able to afford to get to work after I get laid off.

Title: Re: BOHICA
Post by: Angel Eyes on January 21, 2021, 09:04:58 PM
Gonna start smoking again at this rate.

Not after they ban tobacco products.  For your own good, of course.
Title: Re: BOHICA
Post by: Andiron on January 21, 2021, 09:20:21 PM
Not after they ban tobacco products.  For your own good, of course.


True.

Not like I could afford em' anyway,  have you seen the price of a pack of decent cigs?  *expletive deleted*it.  Been a while since I bought any.


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At least I won’t have to worry about being able to afford to get to work after I get laid off.

You'll finally get to experience the fun lock down all the non essential types had....
Title: Re: BOHICA
Post by: zxcvbob on January 21, 2021, 09:39:54 PM
Not after they ban tobacco products.  For your own good, of course.


I have several pounds of tobacco leaves that I bought years ago (from the Amish) when I had this stupid idea to roll my own cigars.  (stupid because I very seldom smoke cigars)  It's a dying folk art, and I'm a sucker for such things.  The tobacco should still be good, I just need to mist it with a little distilled water to soften it up.  That would make an awful lot of untaxed cigarettes.
Title: Re: BOHICA
Post by: MillCreek on January 21, 2021, 09:52:29 PM
^^^I like to learn something every day: how does one store tobacco leaves? 
Title: Re: BOHICA
Post by: zxcvbob on January 21, 2021, 09:57:37 PM
^^^I like to learn something every day: how does one store tobacco leaves? 

I don't know how one should store them.  Mine are loosely wrapped in plastic in a cardboard box in my basement.
Title: Re: BOHICA
Post by: JN01 on January 21, 2021, 10:25:11 PM
Not after they ban tobacco products.  For your own good, of course.


They will probably legalize weed, so you could just switch to that.
Title: Re: BOHICA
Post by: Andiron on January 21, 2021, 10:40:01 PM
They will probably legalize weed, so you could just switch to that.

Given that I'm not retarded, and hate the smell,  not happening.

I'm a true, blue, 'Murican alcoholic!  Bourbon is a fine poison, and there are enough delicious beers out there that I'll never see 195 again.    Probably worse than weed or ciggs, but nobody's perfect.
Title: Re: BOHICA
Post by: Jim147 on January 21, 2021, 11:18:01 PM
You can do it all if you pace yourself.
Title: Re: BOHICA
Post by: K Frame on January 22, 2021, 07:21:14 AM
I've said it before, I'll say it again...

The US had the audacity to prove the Jesusbama wrong when he said that we can't drill our way to lower gasoline prices.

And for that we MUST be punished because we proved him wrong and didn't immediately switch over to magical fairy power.

I predict that by the end of Biden's term US oil production will have fallen by 50%, gasoline prices will be close to double what they are right now, and OPEC will once again have its foot firmly on our throats.

And the Democrats will celebrate because it's good for us all.
Title: Re: BOHICA
Post by: RocketMan on January 22, 2021, 08:29:27 AM
Here is some encouraging news regarding drilling on federal land.  The big players are saying they have enough permits in hand to continue drilling on federal property for at least four more years, if not longer.  Biden's executive orders will have little effect on them.

"The seven companies that control half the federal supply onshore in the Lower 48 states have leases and permits in hand that could last years."

https://news.whatfinger.com/2021/01/22/big-u-s-oil-drillers/ (https://news.whatfinger.com/2021/01/22/big-u-s-oil-drillers/)

The main worry is the smaller companies that do not have the financial resources to purchase and bank permits for later use like the big players.  They will be impacted the most by Biden's orders.

All of this does make me wonder however, if the Biden administration can legally revoke existing already issued permits to shut down drilling on federal lands.
Title: Re: BOHICA
Post by: French G. on January 22, 2021, 08:39:19 AM
This and other stuff I cannot wait until some federal circuit judge that trump put in out in West Mule Lick, Idaho blocks an order. That’s how it works right?
Title: Re: BOHICA
Post by: kgbsquirrel on January 23, 2021, 04:08:47 PM
Here is some encouraging news regarding drilling on federal land.  The big players are saying they have enough permits in hand to continue drilling on federal property for at least four more years, if not longer.  Biden's executive orders will have little effect on them.

"The seven companies that control half the federal supply onshore in the Lower 48 states have leases and permits in hand that could last years."

https://news.whatfinger.com/2021/01/22/big-u-s-oil-drillers/ (https://news.whatfinger.com/2021/01/22/big-u-s-oil-drillers/)

The main worry is the smaller companies that do not have the financial resources to purchase and bank permits for later use like the big players.  They will be impacted the most by Biden's orders.

All of this does make me wonder however, if the Biden administration can legally revoke existing already issued permits to shut down drilling on federal lands.

Sounds like it is perfect for killing off all the little and mid sized players in the game while leaving the giants with larger market shares.
Title: Re: BOHICA
Post by: brimic on January 23, 2021, 04:15:55 PM
The other show will drop by summer when we find ourselves in another pointless war for a plot of sand because our defense industry is having a bad year or because our greatest ally needs us to destabilize another threat to them in their region.
Title: Re: BOHICA
Post by: kgbsquirrel on January 23, 2021, 04:16:57 PM
The other show will drop by summer when we find ourselves in another pointless war for a plot of sand because our defense industry is having a bad year or because our greatest ally needs us to destabilize another threat to them in their region.

Iran.
Title: Re: BOHICA
Post by: brimic on January 23, 2021, 04:21:17 PM
Iran.

Syria, or maybe a nation building mission to Yemen.

take your pick.
Title: Re: BOHICA
Post by: RoadKingLarry on January 23, 2021, 04:31:49 PM
The other show will drop by summer when we find ourselves in another pointless war for a plot of sand because our defense industry is having a bad year or because our greatest ally needs us to destabilize another threat to them in their region.

That premise is what makes me wonder how much of the Trump/Mattis falling out was due to Trump not wanting to get involved in another land war in Asia against the express wishes of the military industrial complex.
Title: Re: BOHICA
Post by: kgbsquirrel on January 23, 2021, 04:44:05 PM
Syria, or maybe a nation building mission to Yemen.

take your pick.

Those places have already been destabilized.  Iran hasn't.
Title: Re: BOHICA
Post by: Jim147 on January 23, 2021, 06:04:21 PM
Biden sent troops back into Syria on day one. Why is the media not talking about it?
Title: Re: BOHICA
Post by: Ben on January 23, 2021, 06:05:14 PM
Biden sent troops back into Syria on day one. Why is the media not talking about it?

They're really not talking about it. First I heard of it was from you. Did Hillary whisper in his ear, or pull his puppet strings?
Title: Re: BOHICA
Post by: kgbsquirrel on January 23, 2021, 07:06:00 PM
Biden sent troops back into Syria on day one. Why is the media not talking about it?

Same reason media didn't cover the story that our dod and dos were lying to Trump saying they had reduced troop levels as he ordered when they had not.
Title: Re: BOHICA
Post by: HeroHog on January 23, 2021, 07:28:09 PM
Biden sent troops back into Syria on day one. Why is the media not talking about it?

Citation please?  [tinfoil]
Title: Re: BOHICA
Post by: Chester32141 on January 23, 2021, 07:39:33 PM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/just-like-good-old-days-joe-biden-invades-syria-convoy-us-troops-choppers-first-full-day-president/

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A large convoy of U.S. military personnel headed into Syria on Thursday along with hundreds of troops some 24 hours after President Joe Biden took office and took on his commander-in-chief role, foreign media reported.
Title: Re: BOHICA
Post by: Ben on January 23, 2021, 08:04:43 PM
Jeepers, New Mexico is unhappy that the guy they voted for went back on his promise to them within 24 hours of taking office.

But at least they got rid of that Trump fellow, right? Very soon now, Trump will be taking over the George Bush "Miss me yet?" meme.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/01/23/president-bidens-moratorium-on-oil-and-natural-gas-leases-and-drilling-permits-prompting-widespread-concerns-in-new-mexico/
Title: Re: BOHICA
Post by: brimic on January 24, 2021, 04:00:48 AM
Same reason media didn't cover the story that our dod and dos were lying to Trump saying they had reduced troop levels as he ordered when they had not.

Yea, but they would be great places to set up massive supply chains or test out military tech. Shareholders of Dyncorp and Lockheed Martin need to eat too.