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Title: The feds are prosecuting armed robbery now? (it wasn't a bank)
Post by: zxcvbob on September 28, 2011, 09:56:35 AM
http://www.winonadailynews.com/news/article_0109fdb4-e98b-11e0-8a4e-001cc4c03286.html

More interstate commerce clause abuse.
Title: Re: The feds are prosecuting armed robbery now? (it wasn't a bank)
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on September 28, 2011, 10:03:47 AM
not new
Title: Re: The feds are prosecuting armed robbery now? (it wasn't a bank)
Post by: TechMan on September 28, 2011, 11:11:45 AM
I wonder if one of the workers @ the McD's has a relative that sits high up in the federal court/ag's office.
Title: Re: The feds are prosecuting armed robbery now? (it wasn't a bank)
Post by: De Selby on September 28, 2011, 09:50:59 PM
The Feds understanding of the commerce clause has drifted back it's original intent over time - there was a period before Roosevelt when judicial activism severely limited it from the framers' intent and it's plain meaning.

As a practical matter, if you want to be tough on crime fed prosecutions are the way to go.  Sentences are much higher in the federal Courts.

Title: Re: The feds are prosecuting armed robbery now? (it wasn't a bank)
Post by: MicroBalrog on September 28, 2011, 09:56:51 PM
The Feds understanding of the commerce clause has drifted back it's original intent over time - there was a period before Roosevelt when judicial activism severely limited it from the framers' intent and it's plain meaning.

Ohjeezenotthisagain.

So help me here. You believe, that the Constitution, as written and amended, allows Congress to regulate practically every for of human activity, excepting those that are explicitly protected by the Bill of Rights?
Title: Re: The feds are prosecuting armed robbery now? (it wasn't a bank)
Post by: Boomhauer on September 28, 2011, 10:00:47 PM
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The Feds understanding of the commerce clause has drifted back it's original intent over time

LOLWUT?

Title: Re: The feds are prosecuting armed robbery now? (it wasn't a bank)
Post by: KD5NRH on September 29, 2011, 05:05:44 AM
A little consistency would help; either make a Federal case out of every WalMart and 7-11 shoplifter, or stick to crimes clearly defined as Federal jurisdiction.
Title: Re: The feds are prosecuting armed robbery now? (it wasn't a bank)
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on September 29, 2011, 03:32:49 PM
The Feds understanding of the commerce clause has drifted back it's original intent over time - there was a period before Roosevelt when judicial activism severely limited it from the framers' intent and it's plain meaning.

As a practical matter, if you want to be tough on crime fed prosecutions are the way to go.  Sentences are much higher in the federal Courts.



yup  as is the cost of good legal representation at that level and ironically one of the major whines? they send you to jail too far away for mom to visit
Title: Re: The feds are prosecuting armed robbery now? (it wasn't a bank)
Post by: BridgeRunner on September 29, 2011, 04:02:15 PM
LOLWUT?

Avenger ftw.
Title: Re: The feds are prosecuting armed robbery now? (it wasn't a bank)
Post by: De Selby on September 29, 2011, 07:31:08 PM
Ohjeezenotthisagain.

So help me here. You believe, that the Constitution, as written and amended, allows Congress to regulate practically every for of human activity, excepting those that are explicitly protected by the Bill of Rights?

No, just all those that affect commerce - that they clearly intended and they and the early courts recognized the power to be an extremely broad one.