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Is Feb. 10 financial doomsday for thousands?
« on: January 08, 2009, 04:42:22 AM »
Is Feb. 10 financial doomsday for thousands?
New law could force companies into ruin
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=85542


By Chelsea Schilling
© 2009 WorldNetDaily



A new government regulation scheduled to take effect next month has thousands of retailers, thrift stores and small businesses worried they will be forced to permanently close their doors – and destroy their merchandise.

The law is expected to have such a devastating impact that Feb. 10 is now unofficially known as "National Bankruptcy Day."

Congress passed the Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act of 2008, or HR 4040, a retroactive rule mandating that all items sold for use by children under 12 must be tested by an independent party for lead and phthalates, which are chemicals used to make plastics more pliable.

All untested items, regardless of lead content, are to be declared "banned hazardous products.'' The CPSC has already determined the law applies to every children's item on shelves, not just to items made beginning Feb. 10.

The regulations could force thousands of businesses – especially smaller ones that cannot afford the cost of lead testing – to throw away truckloads of children's clothing, books, toys, furniture and other children's items and even force them to close their doors.

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Children's books

Valerie Jacobsen and her husband, Paul, support their family of 13 by selling literature at Jacobsen Books in Clinton, Wis. Her family has contracts with local libraries to buy and sell overstocked books – an arrangement that draws income for both parties.

However, Jacobsen told WND that lead testing is estimated to cost $100 to $400 for each of her used children's books because she does not buy in bulk, and each batch of merchandise is required to be tested.

"There's a big difference between me and Wal-Mart or Toys 'R' Us," she said. "They'll have a batch of 50,000. Everything I have is a batch of one because I don't know its history. I'm looking at a testing cost of about $1.2 million. I would normally sell my full inventory of all children's products for probably $15,000. So, it's effectively a ban."

The Consumer Product Safety Commission states that lead testing requirements apply to children's books, cassettes and CDs, printed game boards, posters and other printed goods used for children's education. While it does claim some printing inks will be exempt, paper, cardboard, bindings, glues, laminates and other inks are still subject to regulation and require testing.

Jacobsen said that unless the new law is repealed or substantially modified, it could devastate her family business.

"I don't want to stop selling children's books on Feb. 9," she said. "I need that income. We provide a lot of reading for a lot of little kids. I went into this business because I thought that books were good for children's mental development. That opinion hasn't changed. And the government's ruling is essentially saying they're hazardous for children's mental development because they might contain lead. We just have no evidence that they do."

Children's second-hand clothing

 

Jacobsen said she often shops at second-hand stores for her 11 children because she can buy quality clothing at low prices.

"Over the years I have always tried to make the most of our money, so we'll go to Goodwill," she said. "To be honest, I'd rather go to Goodwill and get a brand-name item that's hardly been worn and pay $3.99 for it than to go to Wal-Mart and pay $13.99 for something that in six weeks from now is not going to worth anything."

But now some thrift and consignment stores are in a panic over the new regulation because it extends to children's clothing, shoes and other items as well.

Cindy Retmier owns a consignment store called Jordan's Closet in El Dorado Hills, Calif. She told KXTV News 10 that the law could close her business.

"[W]e've been passing kids clothing down for centuries," she said. "Now all of sudden you can't do it because there might be too much lead in one item out of a thousand? I mean it's ridiculous they've taken it to the extent they've taken it right now."


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She estimates testing for each of her clothing articles to run between $300 and $1,500. The Consumer Product Safety Commission said it may consider exempting clothing and toys made from natural materials such as wool or wood, but paint and dyes on the products are still required to be tested.

"We only sell stuff for an average of $10 so, of course that doesn't make sense," Ritmier said.

Even Goodwill Industries told the station it may be forced to stop selling clothing and other children's items if testing is too expensive. The move could affect consumers who donate items for tax write-offs if the stores are not able to sell them.

"A huge hit for us and a huge hit for consumers that are trying to save a dollar in this economy," Goodwill's Mark Klingler told KXTV. "We'll have to analyze it. It may involve not selling if we can't realistically test everything."

Likewise, Shauna Sloan, founder of the Salt Lake City-based Kid to Kid Franchise, which sells used children's clothing in 75 stores across the country, told the Los Angeles Times his business could end.

"We will have to lock our doors and file for bankruptcy," he said.

Small toy businesses

All children's toys and furniture also fall under strict requirements for independent lead and phthalate testing. Some small toy businesses say lead testing alone costs more than $4,000 per item – a price some say only large companies like Mattel and Fisher Price can afford to pay.

"The only people who can do that now are the ones who actually put this scare into effect and actually caused the problem," Amy Evan's, owner of Baby's Boutique in Chico, Calif., told CBS' KHSL.

Home-based and small businesses

Shelsie Hall told KXTV she makes hair bows and jewelry for children and sells them online to support her family.

Now her small business is threatened by the measure because those products must be tested.

"[M]y items sell for $4 to $10 and I make a lot of different things. So I couldn't just test one; I would have to test every item," she said.

One blogger who identifies herself as "Tina" has a home-based business making and selling cloth diapers online. She said a U.S. lab quoted a price of $75 to test each component of her diapers.

"I have at least two different fabrics, thread, snaps and elastic in a diaper," she wrote. "$375 to test each different combination of fabrics/snaps/thread/size combinations? That is insane."

She continued, "I am but one of many micro-manufacturers who will be forced to give up the American dream of owning my own business because of this legislation."

Tina said retailers purchase inventory with loans secured by the value of that inventory.

"What happens to these lenders and retailers when the value of that inventory goes to zero?" she asked. "It is conceivable, at least to me, that retailers will be the next group in front of Congress asking for a bailout."

The act's broad wording could extend to children's items sold on eBay, Craig's List, Amazon and even garage sales – also sources of income for individuals.

Critics also say landfills will be hit hard if stores, distributors and families simply throw their untested items away rather than face prosecution. And new clothing, toys, furniture and books at large retailers could become more expensive to cover third-party testing costs.

Tentative exemptions

While the Consumer Product Safety Commission administers the law, it may only be changed by Congress. Some exemptions approved Tuesday by the commission's two members, but not formally adopted, include the following:

Items with lead parts that a child cannot access;
Clothing, toys and other goods made of natural materials such as cotton and wood; and
Electronics that are impossible to make without lead.
But the tentative exemptions do little to reassure most businesses and families who will be affected by the law. Final rules are not scheduled for approval until after Feb. 10, when the rules take effect.

Taking action

Rep. Bobby Rush, D-Il., sponsored the measure along with 106 co-sponsors. In the House of Representatives, 424 members voted for the act, nine voted "present" and a single member voted against it – Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas.

In the Senate, the totals were 89 for, eight "present" and three against – Sens. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., Jim DeMint, R-S.C., and Jon Kyl, R-Ariz.

President George Bush signed it into law on Aug. 14, 2008.

The measure raises the CPSC budget each year until 2015, at which time the agency's budget would be $156 million. It also allows state attorneys general to take civil action against those who violate the strict regulations.

While some may continue to sell their children's products and disobey the law, Jacobsen told WND she's not taking any chances at her bookstore.

"Would I ever get caught? Probably not," she said. "But they are talking about $100,000 fines and jail terms of up to five years. I'm not comfortable operating with that law on the books."

Instead, she said she will fight the measure and raise public awareness.

"I'm planning to put a chain across our children's department and put up a sign that says, "Banned hazardous material,'" she said. "I'll ask my customers as they come in to please write their congressmen, call senators and get the word out there. I will tell them, 'I can let you in now,' but four weeks from now, I won't be able to do that."

Jacobsen's plans don't stop there.

"I am going to go to my legislator's office, and I'm going to take my children's books there," she said. "I'm going to ask him, 'Do you want me to put these in the landfill? Do you want me to burn these?' What am I going to do with them? I can't just warehouse them until they come to their senses."

She suggested the public begin writing and calling lawmakers and demanding exemptions to the law.

"I think the whole thing should be trashed, personally," she said. "It was so short-sighted. People who were doing the importing of lead are going to be rewarded when little companies like mine go under. When you take everything on a retailer's shelf and tell them they cannot sell it, that's bankruptcy."

Concerned individuals may contact senators and representatives and the Consumer Product Safety Commission.

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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2009, 07:39:41 AM »
Saw a local news report on this the other day. Reads almost identical. Sad that no real thinking was done on this bill. One of those that was pushed through in a hurry as 'feel good' legislation.

Wonder what would be done if all the stores across the country massively ignored it and went on as usual or declared all products for 12 and up?
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Re: Is Feb. 10 financial doomsday for thousands?
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2009, 08:20:22 AM »
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President George Bush signed it into law on Aug. 14, 2008.


this article seems to conflict with itself.  still, the law seems excessive.
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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2009, 10:16:14 AM »
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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2009, 10:34:09 AM »
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this article seems to conflict with itself.  still, the law seems excessive.

I might be wrong, but I don't think that Obama part was actually a part of the article, reads like an ad to me.  As for the law: it's dumb.  Hopefully someone will realize that it's destructive and quietly sweep it under a rug somewhere.
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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2009, 11:46:14 AM »
About time for us all to be outlaws  =|

Will the feds be doing SWAT raids on thrift stores and garage sales ?
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« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2009, 11:50:44 AM »
About time for us all to be outlaws  =|

Will the feds be doing SWAT raids on thrift stores and garage sales ?

That's what I want to see: Dynamic Entry on the Hospital Auxiliary, with a bunch of Blue-Hairs being proned out with Ossifer Ninja Wantabe and his boot on Grandma's neck and pointing an MP5 at the back of her head, while the rest of the team ransacks the shop......
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« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2009, 12:11:53 PM »
Aren't you guys worried about all the children that will die if this law doesn't pass?  I mean 15 kids in my area died from buying used toys at a garage sale just last week.

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hmmm, this guy sounds smart, maybe he should've run for pres...

Companies already have a reason to not sell tainted goods... civil law.  You'll be sued to hell (and lose) if you sell anything that contains questionable chemicals.

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« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2009, 12:24:26 PM »
That's what I want to see: Dynamic Entry on the Hospital Auxiliary, with a bunch of Blue-Hairs being proned out with Ossifer Ninja Wantabe and his boot on Grandma's neck and pointing an MP5 at the back of her head, while the rest of the team ransacks the shop......
Wait - just wait - until they try to raid the Salvation ARMY:O
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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2009, 03:12:14 PM »
I have to ask, just how in the hell did us people born in the 50s, 60s and 70s ever make it to adulthood? Lead was in paint long through the 70's, probably into the 80s. Bad chemicals was in many things, too. It's just more Nanny-Statism that makes it tougher for folks. Hell, I had guns all over the house, too, and they weren't locked !!   :O
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« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2009, 03:22:29 PM »
I think it's time ALL Americans begin to ignore these stupid laws.
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« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2009, 03:27:51 PM »
I have to ask, just how in the hell did us people born in the 50s, 60s and 70s ever make it to adulthood?

Answer:  Many didn't.

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« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2009, 03:35:53 PM »
Answer:  Many didn't.

And many children today don't make it to adulthood.

Anyone have a comparison of the numbers?
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« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2009, 03:45:26 PM »
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Anyone have a comparison of the numbers?

I'd like to see them as well.  Given the whole peanut allergy and stuff,  I suspect it's actually fairly high, percentage wise for the drop.  Still, even then the vast majority of babies made it to adulthood - unlike a couple centuries before.

As for the act, I would have made it a requirement for NEW products, especially imported ones, not old ones.

Basically, the manufacturer/distributer/importer needs to be the ones doing the tests, not the retail store.

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« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2009, 03:50:20 PM »
For what it's worth (my emphasis):

From http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml09/09086.html

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
January 8, 2009
Release #09-086    

CPSC Recall Hotline: (800) 638-2772
CPSC Media Contact: (301) 504-7908

CPSC Clarifies Requirements of New Children’s Product Safety Laws Taking Effect in February
Guidance Intended for Resellers of Children’s Products, Thrift and Consignment Stores

WASHINGTON, D.C. - In February 2009, new requirements of the Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act (CPSIA) take effect. Manufacturers, importers and retailers are expected to comply with the new Congressionally-mandated laws. Beginning February 10, 2009, children’s products cannot be sold if they contain more than 600 parts per million (ppm) total lead. Certain children’s products manufactured on or after February 10, 2009 cannot be sold if they contain more that 0.1% of certain specific phthalates or if they fail to meet new mandatory standards for toys.

Under the new law, children’s products with more than 600 ppm total lead cannot lawfully be sold in the United States on or after February 10, 2009, even if they were manufactured before that date. The total lead limit drops to 300 ppm on August 14, 2009.

The new law requires that domestic manufacturers and importers certify that children’s products made after February 10 meet all the new safety standards and the lead ban. Sellers of used children’s products, such as thrift stores and consignment stores, are not required to certify that those products meet the new lead limits, phthalates standard or new toy standards.

The new safety law does not require resellers to test children’s products in inventory for compliance with the lead limit before they are sold. However, resellers cannot sell children’s products that exceed the lead limit and therefore should avoid products that are likely to have lead content, unless they have testing or other information to indicate the products being sold have less than the new limit. Those resellers that do sell products in violation of the new limits could face civil and/or criminal penalties.

When the CPSIA was signed into law on August 14, 2008, it became unlawful to sell recalled products. All resellers should check the CPSC Web site (www.cpsc.gov) for information on recalled products before taking into inventory or selling a product. The selling of recalled products also could carry civil and/or criminal penalties.

The agency intends to focus its enforcement efforts on products of greatest risk and largest exposure. While CPSC expects every company to comply fully with the new laws resellers should pay special attention to certain product categories. Among these are recalled children’s products, particularly cribs and play yards; children’s products that may contain lead, such as children’s jewelry and painted wooden or metal toys; flimsily made toys that are easily breakable into small parts; toys that lack the required age warnings; and dolls and stuffed toys that have buttons, eyes, noses or other small parts that are not securely fastened and could present a choking hazard for young children.

The agency has underway a number of rulemaking proposals intended to provide guidance on the new lead limit requirements. Please visit the CPSC website at www.cpsc.gov for more information.

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« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2009, 04:14:08 PM »
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The agency intends to focus its enforcement efforts on products of greatest risk and largest exposure. While CPSC expects every company to comply fully with the new laws resellers should pay special attention to certain product categories. Among these are recalled children’s products, particularly cribs and play yards; children’s products that may contain lead, such as children’s jewelry and painted wooden or metal toys; flimsily made toys that are easily breakable into small parts; toys that lack the required age warnings; and dolls and stuffed toys that have buttons, eyes, noses or other small parts that are not securely fastened and could present a choking hazard for young children.

Hm, nice policy.  Every single home manufacturer and crafter of children's products will be breaking the law, but don't worry, we probably won't bust you.  Probably.

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« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2009, 04:15:43 PM »
Shhh. Bush is a conservative. He'd never do anything to hurt your freedom.
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« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2009, 04:17:50 PM »
Hm, nice policy.  Every single home manufacturer and crafter of children's products will be breaking the law, but don't worry, we probably won't bust you.  Probably.

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« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2009, 04:26:30 PM »
I have to ask, just how in the hell did us people born in the 50s, 60s and 70s ever make it to adulthood? Lead was in paint long through the 70's, probably into the 80s. Bad chemicals was in many things, too. It's just more Nanny-Statism that makes it tougher for folks. Hell, I had guns all over the house, too, and they weren't locked !!   :O

Maybe all that lead is what made me such a cynical old curmudgeon with a strong distaste for authority  :laugh:
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« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2009, 04:33:04 PM »
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Hm, nice policy.  Every single home manufacturer and crafter of children's products will be breaking the law, but don't worry, we probably won't bust you.  Probably.

Honestly, I doubt that mom and pops have much to fear from CPSC.  It's a tiny agency -  about 400 people and a budget of ~$156 million (yes, with an m.)  It regulates about 15,000 types of products ("toys" is just one type).

Compare that to other regulatory agencies.

For example, FDA -- $2.4 billion (with a b).  10,000+ employees.  Six product types (pharmaceuticals, medical devices, foods, cosmetics, veterinary medicine, biologics)

CPSC just doesn't have the resources.

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« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2009, 04:38:49 PM »
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Honestly, I doubt that mom and pops have much to fear from CPSC.  It's a tiny agency -  about 400 people and a budget of ~$156 million (yes, with an m.)  It regulates about 15,000 types of products ("toys" is just one type).

Maybe they will merge it with ATFEtc ...  =|
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« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2009, 04:55:07 PM »
Shhh. Bush is a conservative. He'd never do anything to hurt your freedom.

Umm, no, Bush was never a conservative.  He was just sort of better then the other 2.
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« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2009, 04:55:57 PM »
Umm, no, Bush was never a conservative.  He was just sort of better then the other 2.

B-b-but why do you DOUBT THE PRESIDENT! You're a left-wing moonbat! You hate America!
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« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2009, 06:56:37 PM »
My sister in law works at home sowing/embroidering/whatever custom children clothes. She is pretty sure she will have to quit and go work outside the home now.

I think this is exactly what this country needs to realize what kind of powers the federal congress is taking for itself. This retarded garbage will affect a lot of middle class families.
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« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2009, 11:06:30 PM »
Umm, no, Bush was never a conservative.  He was just sort of better then the other 2.

How?.... ???

I'm almost sure that, if John Kerry had won, we'd have a conservative in the White House this year.....   =(
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