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Re: Sub/ship collision pics...
« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2009, 10:05:08 AM »
Geez... if a little fender-bender like that gets you hauled in before a board of inquiry and forced into early retirement, how did Captians Kirk and Picard keep their commands for so long and through so much?


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They had photos of their respective Starfleet Chief of Operations doing that "Taurian Tango" with a Horta.

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Re: Sub/ship collision pics...
« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2009, 12:41:23 PM »
The sail is all free-flood superstructure mounted to the pressure hull in that area. You could completly rip the sail off and not necessarily compromise the pressure hull as long as the periscopes tubes were not yanked out.

...and what exactly could rip the sail of submarine but leave the periscope tubes intact?   =|

That's kinda like saying that the Titanic could take an iceberg gash to the side and survive unless water started coming in.....  ;/
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Re: Sub/ship collision pics...
« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2009, 01:15:40 PM »
...and what exactly could rip the sail of submarine but leave the periscope tubes intact?   =|

That's kinda like saying that the Titanic could take an iceberg gash to the side and survive unless water started coming in.....  ;/

Well, according to what I saw, the Titanic COULD have taken a huge iceberg gash and survive...

The gash had to open only 3 of the airtight compartments for that to work. The iceberg they hit gashed across 5.

One expert theorized that had the Titanic hit the iceberg head on, it should have easily survived.

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Re: Sub/ship collision pics...
« Reply #28 on: March 25, 2009, 01:16:40 PM »
...and what exactly could rip the sail of submarine but leave the periscope tubes intact?   =|

That's kinda like saying that the Titanic could take an iceberg gash to the side and survive unless water started coming in.....  ;/
Probably nothing, but theoretically, if something did rip off the sail, but leave the periscopes intact, the pressure hull would not be harmed.  I think that's what he meant. 

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Re: Sub/ship collision pics...
« Reply #29 on: March 25, 2009, 02:58:00 PM »
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The TR had a collision one fine night with one of our accompanying cruisers (Leyte Gulf, IIRC) just before our winter '96 deployment to the Med.  I came off midwatch and racked out, they started drills, including ahead-flank-to-back-emergency-full, and someone on the bridge during that evolution decided to call Leyte Gulf into close-in trailing position, about 1 mile back.  Well, that became a REALLY-close-in trailing position, about contact-distance.  Seems both ships' lookouts were... tired, let's say, and the phone talkers down in the Control Room said they heard a REALLY excited voice shout something about a "pop-up contact aft!" about 10 seconds beforehand.  I remember being woken up by the sound of the Collision alarm, which had been leaned on by mistake by someone a few weeks prior

Yep, I was sitting in my shop at about 0200 when that collision alarm went off. I had just about finished cussing out the moron that tripped it accidentally when I about got knocked out of my chair. Good times. I'm pretty sure we had no aft look-outs, they had been pulled because the guys in my division were running a TF-30 (F-14 motor) on the fantail test cell. They had just shut down and a couple were setting up for a nap in the test cell booth. The motor got turned around sideways by the hit. I think our CO, Christensen, took most of the blame for not ensuring his officers de-conflicted their plans. I'm pretty sure we were EMCON with no radio contact with the Leyte Gulf, we had just finished flight ops, running the motor on the test cell, and then started the engineering drills. The LG was back there still in its plane guard position from flight ops. So we went dead in the water and collected them. I think Christensen still got his star but it was a desk drive in the Pentagon and he was out. Probably was on his way to at least Vice Admiral before that. The CO and XO of the Leyte Gulf were relieved.

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Re: Sub/ship collision pics...
« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2009, 05:59:33 PM »
...and what exactly could rip the sail of submarine but leave the periscope tubes intact?   =|

That's kinda like saying that the Titanic could take an iceberg gash to the side and survive unless water started coming in.....  ;/

Kind of hard to explain unless you have an understanding of how they are put together. I undamaged and can't imagine anything that could rip off the sail and leave them undamage but so long as they still at least partially filled the hole. Actually yanking the periscopes out of the bores would be nearly impossible.
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Re: Sub/ship collision pics...
« Reply #31 on: March 25, 2009, 10:27:18 PM »
It was about a week before I found out that the Marines attached to my division were unaware that the words being passed were drills. They thought the ship really was bursting into flames and trying to sink everyday.  ;/

Well, they are Marines afterall........

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Re: Sub/ship collision pics...
« Reply #32 on: March 26, 2009, 12:57:15 AM »
The sail is all free-flood superstructure mounted to the pressure hull in that area. You could completly rip the sail off and not necessarily compromise the pressure hull as long as the periscopes tubes were not yanked out.

Ah, so that's how it works.  Thanks for the clarification, RKL.
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Re: Sub/ship collision pics...
« Reply #33 on: March 26, 2009, 06:24:21 PM »
Well, they are Marines afterall........

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The Navy does not necessarily inspire confidence.  You guys can hardly march properly, that makes it easy to believe you could (almost) lose a ship per day.  =D
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« Reply #34 on: March 26, 2009, 06:37:40 PM »
The Navy does not necessarily inspire confidence.  You guys can hardly march properly, that makes it easy to believe you could (almost) lose a ship per day.  =D

If the Navy could march on water, they wouldn't NEED ships....  :laugh:
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Re: Sub/ship collision pics...
« Reply #35 on: March 26, 2009, 08:12:30 PM »
This guy told me about a Marine he saw on liberty, he had a tee shirt on that said something like, "Marines the roughest toughest fighting force on the planet" and someone had scrawled in marker underneath, "As long as someone gives us a ride"  :lol:

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