Defense Distributed suing the State Dept

[dogmush]

Can't stop the signal

 

And if we were talking homemade, or off the grid guns, I might take a look at electric ignition, from like a grill.  Might take some playing with to get right though.

[KD5NRH]

And if we were talking homemade, or off the grid guns, I might take a look at electric ignition, from like a grill.  Might take some playing with to get right though.

Might as well just use a resistance wire preinstalled in a paper cartridge.  Think light bulb; one contact near the middle of the breechplug, and another in a ring around the edge.  a 9V battery through a bit of 32ga kanthal should heat up fast enough to have no noticeable "lock time."

Would want to have a touchhole (plugged with a screw) for use in case the contacts are fouled or whatever.  Remove the plug, insert something to puncture the cartridge, add a pinch of FFFFg in the hole and light it off by whatever means.

[AJ Dual]

3D bed-less (no bed of powder) metal printing/additive manufacturing, combined with multi-axis CNC subtractive machining.

https://youtu.be/s9IdZ2pI5dA

[dogmush]

3D bed-less (no bed of powder) metal printing/additive manufacturing, combined with multi-axis CNC subtractive machining.

https://youtu.be/s9IdZ2pI5dA

I just got a little chub.


That is the awesomest thing I've seen in a while.

[MillCreek]

^^^My gosh, that was amazing.

[Perd Hapley]

3D bed-less (no bed of powder) metal printing/additive manufacturing, combined with multi-axis CNC subtractive machining.

https://youtu.be/s9IdZ2pI5dA

Junk. Only forged parts need apply. 

[just Warren]

3D bed-less (no bed of powder) metal printing/additive manufacturing, combined with multi-axis CNC subtractive machining.

https://youtu.be/s9IdZ2pI5dA

Oh my! /George Takei

I thought the point of these DD guns was that "they're guns to get another gun with" or "be able to defend your family with" and as long as they let a person who is stuck in a non-permissive political environment do that then they've succeeded regardless of overall quality of the weapons themselves. That is they're not designed to be your daily shooter or carry piece and if you live in a place where gun ownership is allowed (regardless of local hassles) then you don't need to bother. Even a crap gun is better than no gun for millions of people, but for us they're crap guns.

Of course better is better and no one is going to turn up their nose at these things as the quality improves.

And isn't the big takeaway here the point that guns can be made substantially out of certain plastics, not that you can print one out? Get a blank of the right plastic and use a mill for a couple of hours instead of printing it over a couple of days. That's the important bit.

[roo_ster]

3D bed-less (no bed of powder) metal printing/additive manufacturing, combined with multi-axis CNC subtractive machining.

https://youtu.be/s9IdZ2pI5dA

That really WAS better in the German.

[Perd Hapley]

Oh my! /George Takei

I thought the point of these DD guns was that "they're guns to get another gun with" or "be able to defend your family with" and as long as they let a person who is stuck in a non-permissive political environment do that then they've succeeded regardless of overall quality of the weapons themselves. That is they're not designed to be your daily shooter or carry piece and if you live in a place where gun ownership is allowed (regardless of local hassles) then you don't need to bother. Even a crap gun is better than no gun for millions of people, but for us they're crap guns.

Of course better is better and no one is going to turn up their nose at these things as the quality improves.

And isn't the big takeaway here the point that guns can be made substantially out of certain plastics, not that you can print one out? Get a blank of the right plastic and use a mill for a couple of hours instead of printing it over a couple of days. That's the important bit.

Cody Wilson (being an anarchist) is trying to show that the state can't control our access to weapons, and will be less able to do so, as technology advances. Some libertarians and anarchists believe that government will be neutered (if not eliminated) by technological progress.

[Fitz]

Cody Wilson (being an anarchist) is trying to show that the state can't control our access to weapons, and will be less able to do so, as technology advances. Some libertarians and anarchists believe that government will be neutered (if not eliminated) by technological progress.

The unfortunate reality is that the march of technological progress will continue making people weak, soft, and dependent. Also scared, because progress is scary.

And those weak, soft, scared, dependent aholes vote. And hand over their power and freedom.

I believe government will be not only strengthened, but BEGGED into tyranny by the march of technological progress. Futuristic dystopia style

[Hawkmoon]

different Liberator.

Not this one?

[birdman]

I just got a little chub.


That is the awesomest thing I've seen in a while.

Agreed.

[KD5NRH]

I thought the point of these DD guns was that "they're guns to get another gun with" or "be able to defend your family with" and as long as they let a person who is stuck in a non-permissive political environment do that then they've succeeded regardless of overall quality of the weapons themselves.

Right, though for the "get another gun with it" goal, I'd think a simple suppressor would be a good idea to ensure you have time to deal with the other guy's sling/holster/whatever and make sure his gun is ready before his buddies come running to see what that shot was about.  Something like a pen gun would be easier to conceal when suppressed, especially if built into (or to resemble) an innocuous object like a cane, crutch or flashlight.

[AJ Dual]

Right, though for the "get another gun with it" goal, I'd think a simple suppressor would be a good idea to ensure you have time to deal with the other guy's sling/holster/whatever and make sure his gun is ready before his buddies come running to see what that shot was about.  Something like a pen gun would be easier to conceal when suppressed, especially if built into (or to resemble) an innocuous object like a cane, crutch or flashlight.

3D printed suppressors?

Been done too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UlOm5kGqAg

Disadvantages would be durability obviously, and fine threads and concentricity with the bore. Presumably negated somewhat by the fact you're expecting it to be a relatively disposable item. Advantages of 3D printing are that it excels at making blind voids, and shapes that are impossible through traditional subtractive manufacturing.  So in theory, you can make whatever kind of gonzo-crazy shape that's the perfect fluid-dynamics solution for the caliber and velocity you're trying to achieve.

Metal 3D printed/laser sintered suppressors have also been done as well.

I'm kind of thinking that as time goes on... "guns" are going to be the LEAST of the .gov's and sundry statist worries.  What about printing anti aircraft missile parts? Mines? Artillery? Drugs? Chemical Warfare Agents? Real (biological) Viruses?

Hell, postulating zero "new" technology or materials science, just working with a snapshot of what we've got right now, Wii controllers, smartphones, Audrino and Raspberty Pi, it should be completely possible to design an open-source quadcopter drone killbot using off the shelf commercial parts. And there's probably a half-dozen ways it could be lethal without needing to procure or synthesize explosives.

[KD5NRH]

Disadvantages would be durability obviously, and fine threads and concentricity with the bore. Presumably negated somewhat by the fact you're expecting it to be a relatively disposable item.

Exactly; even assuming a much more restrictive society, a suppressed single shot pistol using homemade BP to propel a fishing sinker would have some advantage over a knife or club for acquiring an oppressor's gun.  If you can get within arm's reach and point it at the base of his skull from behind, it doesn't need to be particularly accurate or powerful to keep him from having any chance of resisting or calling out.