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Title: Blowing the whistle on the whistleblower
Post by: Hawkmoon on October 31, 2019, 02:11:54 PM
The whistleblower may have been unmasked:

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/10/30/whistleblower_exposed_close_to_biden_brennan_dnc_oppo_researcher_120996.html

And he may not be a poster child for objectivity.

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Federal documents reveal that the 33-year-old Ciaramella, a registered Democrat held over from the Obama White House, previously worked with former Vice President Joe Biden and former CIA Director John Brennan, a vocal critic of Trump who helped initiate the Russia “collusion” investigation of the Trump campaign during the 2016 election.

Further, Ciaramella (pronounced char-a-MEL-ah) left his National Security Council posting in the White House’s West Wing in mid-2017 amid concerns about negative leaks to the media. He has since returned to CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia.

“He was accused of working against Trump and leaking against Trump,” said a former NSC official, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence matters.

Also, Ciaramella huddled for “guidance” with the staff of House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, including former colleagues also held over from the Obama era whom Schiff’s office had recently recruited from the NSC. (Schiff is the lead prosecutor in the impeachment inquiry.)

And Ciaramella worked with a Democratic National Committee operative who dug up dirt on the Trump campaign during the 2016 election, inviting her into the White House for meetings, former White House colleagues said. The operative, Alexandra Chalupa, a Ukrainian-American who supported Hillary Clinton, led an effort to link the Republican campaign to the Russian government. “He knows her. He had her in the White House,” said one former co-worker, who requested anonymity to discuss the sensitive matter.
Title: Re: Blowing the whistle on the whistleblower
Post by: MechAg94 on October 31, 2019, 02:33:52 PM
There is a reason they were trying to protect the identify by changing the whistleblower rules.
Title: Re: Blowing the whistle on the whistleblower
Post by: fifth_column on November 01, 2019, 03:24:46 PM
It's like they're not even trying all that hard.  Or they're trying really hard but they're incompetent and keep using the same playbook.  The DNC has become the Homer Simpson of the political world . . . . .
Title: Re: Blowing the whistle on the whistleblower
Post by: MechAg94 on November 01, 2019, 03:48:13 PM
It's like they're not even trying all that hard.  Or they're trying really hard but they're incompetent and keep using the same playbook.  The DNC has become the Homer Simpson of the political world . . . . .
I wouldn't be surprised is they have a half dozens scenarios lined up and just hope the cumulative effect will hurt Trump. 

Rush mentioned today that the Democrats own polls don't show opinion shifting their way through all this.
Title: Re: Blowing the whistle on the whistleblower
Post by: fifth_column on November 01, 2019, 04:58:19 PM
I wouldn't be surprised is they have a half dozens scenarios lined up and just hope the cumulative effect will hurt Trump. 

Rush mentioned today that the Democrats own polls don't show opinion shifting their way through all this.

Maybe people's opinions don't change much because everybody (right, left or whatever) is so used to holding their noses and putting up with their elected "leaders."
Title: Re: Blowing the whistle on the whistleblower
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 02, 2019, 09:26:58 AM
If Trump had done anything actionable, he'd have been executed by now, and his ashes scattered in shark-infested waters.

If there were any real crimes, they'd be impeaching over those, instead of making things up.

The conclusion is inescapable that Donald Trump is the most law-abiding man in Washington. No wonder they hate him.
Title: Re: Blowing the whistle on the whistleblower
Post by: DittoHead on November 14, 2019, 12:18:27 PM
Quote from: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/12/us/politics/trump-michael-atkinson-inspector-general.html
President Trump has discussed dismissing the intelligence community’s inspector general, Michael Atkinson, because Mr. Atkinson reported a whistle-blower’s complaint about Mr. Trump’s interactions with Ukraine to Congress after concluding it was credible, according to four people familiar with the discussions.

Mr. Trump first expressed his dismay about Mr. Atkinson around the time the whistle-blower’s complaint became public in September. In recent weeks, he has continued to raise with aides the possibility of firing him, one of the people said.

I'm a little surprised there is so much drama around the whistleblower yet this guy is still around. Doesn't make much sense to me.
Title: Re: Blowing the whistle on the whistleblower
Post by: zxcvbob on November 14, 2019, 12:25:06 PM
If Trump had done anything actionable, he'd have been executed by now, and his ashes scattered in shark-infested waters.

If there were any real crimes, they'd be impeaching over those, instead of making things up.

The conclusion is inescapable that Donald Trump is the most law-abiding man in Washington [D.C.]. No wonder they hate him.

He might very well be.  It's a pretty low bar.
Title: Re: Blowing the whistle on the whistleblower
Post by: MechAg94 on November 14, 2019, 03:57:51 PM
I'm a little surprised there is so much drama around the whistleblower yet this guy is still around. Doesn't make much sense to me.
Too soon?  He probably needs to wait until some of this is completed/closed out before gets rid of people involved.  Hell, who changed the rule that allowed Whistleblower protection for people who were not direct witnesses?  There have been a number of people involved in this.
Title: Re: Blowing the whistle on the whistleblower
Post by: Hawkmoon on November 14, 2019, 04:40:05 PM
Too soon?  He probably needs to wait until some of this is completed/closed out before gets rid of people involved.  Hell, who changed the rule that allowed Whistleblower protection for people who were not direct witnesses?  There have been a number of people involved in this.

That's what I want to know. Properly speaking, this so-called whistleblower should not even BE a whistleblower. Somebody moved the goalposts.
Title: Re: Blowing the whistle on the whistleblower
Post by: DittoHead on November 14, 2019, 04:43:23 PM
Even if it wasn't him personally, I would think the ICIG should be on the hook for that as well. Yet he remains in his position.