Author Topic: The US sent bomb-sniffing dogs to Jordan. Now they're dying from poor treatment  (Read 864 times)

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https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/09/16/us/jordan-dog-death-intl-hnk-scli/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

I imagine a little of this is overblown, but not all of it.  Looks like it is based on the IG report below which I haven't gone through.  Otherwise, looks like some of the handlers don't care or pawn off the work to other who care even less.  

The reason I wonder if some of it was overblown is they said 10 of 61 dogs had died in 8 years.  I don't know if that is unusual.  Certainly some of the deaths were preventable and unnecessary. 


https://www.oversight.gov/sites/default/files/oig-reports/ESP-19-06.pdf
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Data point: Moslums do NOT like dogs. May or may not be relevant.
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Point 1: it's worse than that report shows.

Point 2: the expensive dogs from the US are actually treated better than the lower enlisted humans in the Jordanian armed forces.

Point 3: If, at this point, we cut off the supply of sniffing dogs because the "Jordanians aren't good enough to take care of our dogs" we will loose a decent strategic partner and a lot of logistics capabilities in the region, as well as a large port on the Red Sea.  A halfassed glance at a map will make it obvious why ports on the Red Sea are important to us.

What are you going to do?

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https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/09/16/us/jordan-dog-death-intl-hnk-scli/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

I imagine a little of this is overblown, but not all of it.  Looks like it is based on the IG report below which I haven't gone through.  Otherwise, looks like some of the handlers don't care or pawn off the work to other who care even less.  

The reason I wonder if some of it was overblown is they said 10 of 61 dogs had died in 8 years.  I don't know if that is unusual.  Certainly some of the deaths were preventable and unnecessary. 


https://www.oversight.gov/sites/default/files/oig-reports/ESP-19-06.pdf

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I guess it is time to dump a pot full of money and send some US type dog handlers TAD (TDY for you non-sea service) to the diverse ME for a few years. ;)

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Can we train pigs to sniff out drugs and bombs?
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Can we train pigs to sniff out drugs and bombs?
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YES! They are smarter than dogs and have very sensitive senses of smell! In fact, it has been done.
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Bomb sniffing pigs would be awesome.
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Point 1: it's worse than that report shows.

Point 2: the expensive dogs from the US are actually treated better than the lower enlisted humans in the Jordanian armed forces.

Point 3: If, at this point, we cut off the supply of sniffing dogs because the "Jordanians aren't good enough to take care of our dogs" we will loose a decent strategic partner and a lot of logistics capabilities in the region, as well as a large port on the Red Sea.  A halfassed glance at a map will make it obvious why ports on the Red Sea are important to us.

What are you going to do?

Someone needs to tell US liberals that this is what "Diverse Culture" looks like.

Excellent post.

Americans think their confused, muddled and perverted value system is universal.

Im conflicted of course because im an American and a fan of dogs.

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All of the equipment we send to the M.E. gets abused.  Planes, tanks, bombs, dogs, etc.  No one takes care of loaner equipment, so we shouldn't expect any different for the dogs.
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All of the equipment we send to the M.E. gets abused.  Planes, tanks, bombs, dogs, etc.  No one takes care of loaner equipment, so we shouldn't expect any different for the dogs.
From what I have heard, they may not take care of their own equipment very well.
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