Armed Polite Society
Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: zxcvbob on August 04, 2015, 09:15:05 PM
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This briefly showed up in the "Most popular" column of Google News today:
(marginally NSFW) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mason-hsieh/dear-straight-men-come-out-already_b_7899674.html
Who do you think the target audience is? It pretends to be written for adults, but I think it's intended for teenage boys, to encourage them to experiment with homosexuality. Recruitment. It meshes very well with the BSA policy change last week.
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I think your reading way to much into something.
Seriously, human sexuality is a lot more complex than your simplistic paranoia about the gayz taking over the world with Pinky and the Brain style schemes.
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1 - Relax. Nothing nefarious to read there, except that you got fixated on the intro discussion of some kids at some high school on some rowing team (which makes them suspect to begin with).
2 - Why the author is afraid of the term bisexual escapes me. There can be a component of "establish my masculinity through domination of another male".
3 - See Treva Lindsey, Prof. of Women's Gender and Sexuality @ Ohio State U (about 3:14 in the video here http://www.eurweb.com/2014/08/is-the-twerking-in-taylor-swifts-video-perpetuating-black-stereotypes/ ) She has the whole "fit what I want into whatever" thing down pat.
stay safe.
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I think your reading way to much into something.
Seriously, human sexuality is a lot more complex than your simplistic paranoia about the gayz taking over the world with Pinky and the Brain style schemes.
[tinfoil]
Laugh if you will but that's exactly how they plan to do it.
Their greatest weapon is that no one believes that they can do it.
There is, fortunatly, one amazing force standing in their way...............
The Man From U.N.C.L.E. !!!!
[tinfoil]
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The author is euther validating his own sexual proclivities or is attention whoring, my bet is on both.
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Good grief! Did I just read that ??? :facepalm:
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Good grief! Did I just read that ??? :facepalm:
Based on this comment alone, I'm not going to.
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...also, the author wrote it for himself, to show himself how clever he is by using the word 'brojob' in an article.
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I think you're reading way too much into something.
Seriously, human sexuality is a lot more complex than your simplistic paranoia about the gayz taking over the world with Pinky and the Brain style schemes.
I rarely weigh in on things like this, but it seems to me that certain philosphies like to crowd gender into two absoluteley separate categories, when there is a considerable overlap.
I was reading up on this a little in response to something else, and from my admittedly limited research, it appears that a certain proportion of newborns have characteristics of both sexes and a decision has to be made for corrective surgery to go one way or the other.
There is also something called Kleinfelter's Klinefelter's Syndrome, I found, wherein a certain proportion of males have an extra female chromosome...
Klinefelter syndrome is a condition related to the X and Y chromosomes (the sex chromosomes). People typically have two sex chromosomes in each cell: females have two X chromosomes (46,XX), and males have one X and one Y chromosome (46,XY). Most often, Klinefelter syndrome results from the presence of one extra copy of the X chromosome in each cell (47,XXY). Extra copies of genes on the X chromosome interfere with male sexual development, often preventing the testes from functioning normally and reducing the levels of testosterone. Most people with an extra X chromosome have the features described above, although some have few or no associated signs and symptoms.
http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/klinefelter-syndrome
From what I can gather, the numbers involved are somewhat sketchy, since corrected "intersexed" babies are not publicised, but are kept hidden as a family secret, so to speak, and Kleinfelter's syndrome is likewise often undiagnosed.
However, it is a safe guess that at least 1 in 500 or so people lie somewhere between the extremes of male versus female sexuality and body types.
As far as I can tell from my research thus far, this ain't a matter of "philosophy," it's a matter of medical fact.
I'm not willing to argue knowledgably about all this, I only recently got curious about it.
But it's in line with bluestarlizzard's second paragraph.
Maybe sometimes "men is men and wimmens is wimmens" is not wholly true.
I guess.
Terry, 230RN
Edited to correct spelling of Klinefelter... which shows you how much I know in the first place.
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But, Terry - when are you going to "come out" and announce your gender identity ???
=D
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My gender identity right now is "olde pharte, father of two, and who cares anyhow at my age?"
The "who cares anyhow" is the relevant part, Tallpine.
And why?
Terry
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My gender identity right now is "olde pharte, father of two, and who cares anyhow at my age?"
The "who cares anyhow" is the relevant part, Tallpine.
And why?
Terry
So you didn't read the article ? ;)
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I rarely weigh in on things like this, but it seems to me that certain philosphies like to crowd gender into two absoluteley separate categories, when there is a considerable overlap.
I was reading up on this a little in response to something else, and from my admittedly limited research, it appears that a certain proportion of newborns have characteristics of both sexes and a decision has to be made for corrective surgery to go one way or the other.
There is also something called Kleinfelter's Klinefelter's Syndrome, I found, wherein a certain proportion of males have an extra female chromosome...
From what I can gather, the numbers involved are somewhat sketchy, since corrected "intersexed" babies are not publicised, but are kept hidden as a family secret, so to speak, and Kleinfelter's syndrome is likewise often undiagnosed.
However, it is a safe guess that at least 1 in 500 or so people lie somewhere between the extremes of male versus female sexuality and body types.
As far as I can tell from my research thus far, this ain't a matter of "philosophy," it's a matter of medical fact.
I'm not willing to argue knowledgably about all this, I only recently got curious about it.
But it's in line with bluestarlizzard's second paragraph.
Maybe sometimes "men is men and wimmens is wimmens" is not wholly true.
I guess.
Terry, 230RN
Edited to correct spelling of Klinefelter... which shows you how much I know in the first place.
To my mind, most of the current controversy and social issues that stem from this crap is the emphasis our culture has placed on defining identity. I really do think that people are more likely to be in some shade of gray in regards to their sexuality rather than exactly defined as gay, straight or bisexual. Furthermore, any attempts at definition is further skewed by the fact that being attracted to someone, being interested in having a sexual interaction with someone and being interested in a romantic relationship with someone are three COMPLETLY different things. Related, yes, but not the same things.
Having some nominal, vague definition is pretty much the best that can be done, because (like marriage) you're just not going to get the same answer from everyone, but the emphasis on needing that labeled and defined identity screws up any attempt to have a discussion about this stuff with someone who is not willing or able to understand that it's just a lot more complicated than some simplistic definitions. And those someone's seem to be the vast majority.
It seems that the article writer is one of those someone's. Maybe the rower's define sexuality by attractiveness, maybe they define it by sexual acts, maybe they define it by romantic relationships, maybe they define it by how much or how little interest they have in which gender/sex, maybe they are in the closet.
So what? It really doesn't matter, because it's not the writer's business (or our business) anyway. It's the business of the guys involved and they can identify however they want because the reality is it's a person's identity belongs to them, not the rest of the world.
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1 - Relax. Nothing nefarious to read there, except that you got fixated on the intro discussion of some kids at some high school on some rowing team (which makes them suspect to begin with).
2 - Why the author is afraid of the term bisexual escapes me. There can be a component of "establish my masculinity through domination of another male".
3 - See Treva Lindsey, Prof. of Women's Gender and Sexuality @ Ohio State U (about 3:14 in the video here http://www.eurweb.com/2014/08/is-the-twerking-in-taylor-swifts-video-perpetuating-black-stereotypes/ ) She has the whole "fit what I want into whatever" thing down pat.
stay safe.
1. Relax
2. Don't do it.
3. When you want to go to it.
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1. Relax
2. Don't do it.
3. When you want to go to it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLGbXHc-Ce0 (NSFW)