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It makes me sick to my stomach to see the authorities going after a lawman that is trying to do his job the way the job should be done.  They broke the law, catch them and deport them.  Some of his trouble be related to what it says near thebottom of the article. $$$$$

Ariz. Sheriff Investigated by Federal Grand Jury
Friday, January 08, 2010  
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,582523,00.html

PHOENIX —  Two officials said Thursday night they have been subpoenaed to answer questions next week before a federal grand jury about a high-profile Arizona sheriff who gained attention for aggressively cracking down on illegal immigration.

In statements read by a county spokesman, Maricopa County Manager David Smith and Deputy County Manager Sandi Wilson said they met with a federal prosecutor to discuss the case and will testify Wednesday.

Wilson said the general subject of the inquiry was abuses by Sheriff Joe Arpaio's office. Neither Wilson nor Smith offered specifics, said county spokesman Richard de Uriarte, who spoke with the two officials Thursday night.

Arpaio is widely known for tough jail policies and pushing the bounds on local immigration efforts. He has led a dozen crime and immigration sweeps, some in heavily Latino areas.

Critics allege that some of Arpaio's deputies racially profiled people during immigration sweeps. But Arpaio maintains that people pulled over in the sweeps were approached because deputies had probable cause to believe they had committed crimes.

Sheriff's spokesman Brian Lee said Arpaio was declining to comment on reports of the investigation. "He has stated that we will conduct business as usual," Lee said.

Sandy Raynor, a spokeswoman for the U.S attorney's office in Phoenix, said she couldn't confirm or deny a grand jury investigation.

Arpaio and an ally are embroiled in nasty legal disputes with county officials and judges. Two county supervisors and one county judge have been criminally charged in investigations by Arpaio and County Attorney Andrew Thomas.

Last month, Arpaio and Thomas filed a federal racketeering lawsuit against a group of county administrators, judges and attorneys, accusing them of participating in a conspiracy to hinder an investigation into a $341 million court building under construction in Phoenix and the investigation of Supervisor Don Stapley.

He was told in March that his office is being investigated by the U.S. Department of Justice over allegations of discrimination and unconstitutional searches and seizures. Arpaio had said he believed the investigation was spurred by his immigration efforts.

Last year, Arpaio was stripped of some of his special authority to make federal immigration arrests, though he retains some federal power that allows his jail officers to speed up deportations.

A half-day after his powers were limited, he launched a crime and immigration sweep and has since continued his enforcement of state laws banning immigrant smuggling and prohibiting businesses from knowingly hiring illegal immigrants.


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Re: Ariz. Sheriff Investigated by Federal Grand Jury
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2010, 01:30:51 PM »
This may be for the deputy who looked through a defendants documents illegally, then did all sorts of other law defying actions. I like a lot of the stuff he's done, but that whole fiasco was inexcusable imho.
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Re: Ariz. Sheriff Investigated by Federal Grand Jury
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2010, 04:10:16 PM »
Not at all surprising, coming from the Obama DOJ, the same ones who let the Black Panther Thugs off for voter intimidation. There's a spot reserved for them in the 8th or 9th circle.
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Re: Ariz. Sheriff Investigated by Federal Grand Jury
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2010, 04:12:23 PM »
quite a variety of things could be investigated.  guys got more lawsuits than new yourk city and folks croak in his jail pretty frequent
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Re: Ariz. Sheriff Investigated by Federal Grand Jury
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2010, 05:21:13 PM »
The guy is as big a crook as most of the people he arrests.  Damn.  I think I'll be under investigation in Maricopa county now because I made a derogatory comment about Sheriff Joe.  Now, I say that jokingly but that's his MO.  I hope he goes down.
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Re: Ariz. Sheriff Investigated by Federal Grand Jury
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2010, 06:02:46 PM »
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guys got more lawsuits than new yourk city and folks croak in his jail pretty frequent
How many has he lost??? 
He's like Sarah Palin, lawsuit. lawsuit, lawsuit against him, but ho many losses?  As far as I know Sarah Palin was never foound guity neither has he, right?

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Re: Ariz. Sheriff Investigated by Federal Grand Jury
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2010, 06:04:24 PM »
Folks I know who live there say Sheriff Joe is a thug with a badge.

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Re: Ariz. Sheriff Investigated by Federal Grand Jury
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2010, 06:28:36 PM »
How many has he lost??? 
He's like Sarah Palin, lawsuit. lawsuit, lawsuit against him, but ho many losses?  As far as I know Sarah Palin was never foound guity neither has he, right?


you wanna look at what his county has paid out  really?  what flavors that koolaid?
43 million just in wrongful death and injury cases  plus 2.4 mill in legal fees to the funny lawyer Dennis Wilenchik



As New Times writer John Dickerson reported in “Inhumanity Has a Price” (December 20, 2007), “With a fraction of the inmate population, Arpaio has had 50 times as many lawsuits as the New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, and Houston jail systems combined.” Since Dickerson wrote the article — which warns of MRSA staph infections in Arpaio’s jails and describes the horror of a pregnant mother bleeding incessantly and losing her child while one of Arpaio’s prisoners — the payout figure (which was $41.4 million) has climbed another $2 million.


http://www.arpaio.com/wordpress/?p=94

ugly stuff
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Re: Ariz. Sheriff Investigated by Federal Grand Jury
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2010, 06:41:17 PM »
The New Times is hardly impartial, though.

It's practically a volunteer written rag based entirely in Tempe, drawing off the most fiery hotbrand liberal college students they can find.  It's fiercely pro-illegal immigration, and the majority of its advertising revenues are derived from various 1-900 phone numbers, swingers clubs and gay porn ads.  Not exactly mainstream journalism.

I might as well cite NewsMax when citing biased sources to counter yours... it would have the same validity.
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Re: Ariz. Sheriff Investigated by Federal Grand Jury
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2010, 07:06:12 PM »
New Times is less credible than NewsMax, or it was when I lived in AZ.

Tent City is a great idea, but I wouldn't doubt the execution may have been lacking.
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Re: Ariz. Sheriff Investigated by Federal Grand Jury
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2010, 07:21:21 PM »
the new times didn't award 43 mill   bu heck its not my money  and thats a pretty sweet deal that lawyer feller is milking the taxpayers on  especially since hes not much of a lawyer.  hows that responsiveness to foia requests sit with ya'll?  the hypocrisy is strong on this one. or are the rules different for sheriff joe?
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2010, 07:30:25 PM »
Hey kids, let's all gather round csd for today's lesson on internet debating tactics. This is what we call a "strawman" argument, wherein you attack things your opponent hasn't actually said. Notice how he works in a little sly ad hom too, implying that his statements are correct and you must be a bad person for liking the things he's falsely attributing to you. He's a wily old rascal, that csd. This concludes today's lesson in internet debating tactics.
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Re: Ariz. Sheriff Investigated by Federal Grand Jury
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2010, 07:32:21 PM »
you want i can dig up the particulars on the pregnant woman's reeducation 2 miilion bucks worth

but heres a taste of the sugarfree koolaid


From 1995 to 1998, the county paid $328,894 a year for an insurance policy with a $1 million deductible.

Today, Maricopa County pays a yearly premium of $1.2 million for outside insurance with a $5 million deductible. For any lawsuit that costs $5 million or less, the county foots the entire bill. It’s the best policy the county can buy because of Arpaio’s terrible track record.

http://www.arpaio.com/wordpress/?p=90

Anyone with two licks of sense can go online at pacer.psc.uscourts.gov, or dockets.justia.com, enter “Arpaio” into the federal court docket, then count the lawsuits that name “prison conditions” as the cause. Count back to 2004, and as of mid-December, that number was more than 2,150.

The same search for the top jail custodians in L.A., New York, Chicago, and Houston nets a total of only 43 “prison condition” lawsuits.

Remember, those 2,150 lawsuits against Arpaio are only in federal court. There are hundreds more listed online with the Maricopa County Superior Court, at superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/docket/civilcourtcases/.
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Re: Ariz. Sheriff Investigated by Federal Grand Jury
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2010, 07:43:41 PM »
...And none of that has anything to do with the fact that Maricopa County voters are so pleased with the job he does that we consistently send him back to office?

Perhaps he is targeted by lawsuits because he IS effective.

Ultimately, the voters here like him and keep putting him back in office.  And we'll probably continue to do so.  If there was anything of substance to be found that was really sketchy about Joe, it'd be in the Arizona Republic... not the New Times.
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Re: Ariz. Sheriff Investigated by Federal Grand Jury
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2010, 07:44:04 PM »
And any of that relates to arguments I've made... how exactly? Perhaps you could quote me when I've said anything remotely resembling a defense of those things.
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« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2010, 07:48:53 PM »
  There simply isn't another jail system in America with this history of taxpayer-financed litigation.

New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, and Houston, for example, collectively housed more than 61,000 inmates per day last year. From 2004 through November of this year, these same county jails had a combined 43 prison-conditions lawsuits filed against them in federal courts.

In the very same three-year time frame, despite housing a mere 9,200 prisoners per day, Sheriff Arpaio was the target of a staggering 2,150 lawsuits in U.S. District Court and hundreds more in Maricopa County courts.

With a fraction of the inmate population, Arpaio has had 50 times as many lawsuits as the New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, and Houston jail systems combined.
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Re: Ariz. Sheriff Investigated by Federal Grand Jury
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2010, 07:49:27 PM »
Sheriff Joe Arpaio vs. The Truth

Sheriff Joe Arpaio takes credit for many things where the credit is not his to take. It is time for some truth about the sheriff.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: The Sheriff claims he has a .50 caliber machine gun for use in shooting down terrorist aircraft or explosive laden tractor-trailer rigs. He also claims the machine gun is the only one owned by a U.S. law enforcement agency.

Truth: The part about the gun being the only one in U.S. law enforcement is probably true and for good reason. Other police chiefs and sheriffs realize that a .50 caliber machine gun is so powerful and so dangerous that it has no place in civilian police work. As to shooting down airplanes and destroying trucks loaded with explosives, how would Sheriff Sheriff Joe Arpaio know which ones to shoot at? It is highly unlikely that the terrorists would notify authorities when and where they are going to strike so the gun could be put in place. Also, Sheriff Sheriff Joe Arpaio stated that, unlike the U.S. Air Force, he needs no presidential authority before shooting down airplanes.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: The Norberg wrongful death lawsuit was settled out of court for $8.25 million. Sheriff Sheriff Joe Arpaio has repeatedly claimed that this cost the taxpayers nothing since it was paid by an insurance company.

Truth: At the time of the settlement the county had a $1 million "deductible" on its coverage. The taxpayers had to pay the first $1,000,000 on this case and now the deductible has been raised to $5 million.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: He arrested Elvis Presley.

Truth: Actually, Sheriff Joe Arpaio sometimes claims to have arrested Elvis and other times he claims to have stopped him for a traffic violation. No police records nor Presley family records have ever surfaced to show any contact between Elvis and Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: He invented the idea of housing prisoners in tents.

Truth: The Arizona Department of Corrections has used tents for decades. Facilities in other states also used tents before Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: He claims credit for feeding green bologna (surplus food) to inmates.

Truth: Jails and prisons here in Arizona and all over the county feed surplus food to inmates and have done so for many years.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: He was a Korean War veteran.

Truth: This one is tricky. He was in the Army during the Korean War but he never set foot there. His overseas assignment was in France.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: He is the "Toughest Sheriff in America".

Truth: This is a title he gave himself. During his years as sheriff he has not made even one arrest and, on those rare occasions where he was present when an arrest was necessary , others had to do it.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: He is the "Chief Law Enforcement Officer of the County" and has authority over all police departments and the DPS.

Truth: Another meaningless title. He has no authority over other police agencies.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: He broke the famous "French Connection."

Truth: The people really involved in this case never heard of Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: He was involved in "numerous gun battels" and "weekly shootout" as a DEA agent.

Truth: Virtually no one in the police business believes these claims. There would be something desperately wrong with any police officer that gets into weekly shootout.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Wants people to think he created the posse program.

Truth: The modern day posse program dates back to the 1930s. These volunteer groups provide a wide range of important services to the county including search and rescue, enforcement support, and community crime prevention. Many of the posse members resent being used by Sheriff Joe Arpaio for publicity stunts like the "Van Buren Street Prostitution Patrol."

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Recidivism in the jails was reduced during his time as sheriff.

Truth: Sheriff Joe Arpaio spent $10,000 in taxpayer money to have Arizona State University study recidivism in the jail system. The result showed that there was no change in the rate at which inmates returned to jail. Sheriff Joe Arpaio immediately declared that ASU was wrong.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Prior to his election he declared that the sheriff should be an appointed position like that of chiefs of police and that he would only serve one term.

Truth: Within weeks of his election he "changed his mind" and announced he would run for another term.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: On the two occasions where he spent a night in the tent city jail he claimed that there were no special security arrangements to protect him.

Truth: The Sheriff's Office Tactical Operations Unit (SWAT TEAM) was on-duty, on overtime, all night, guarding him from a nearby building.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: He built the tent city jail because of overcrowding in the regular jails.

Truth: To insure there were enough inmates for the much publicized tent city jail he closed an entire floor of the First Avenue Jail.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: He has saved the taxpayers millions of dollars.

Truth: He has cost the taxpayers millions of dollars in legal fees, lawsuits, attorneys fees, settlements, judgments, photographs of himself, videos of himself, and maintaining his personal public relations staff.
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: Ariz. Sheriff Investigated by Federal Grand Jury
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2010, 08:00:24 PM »
from the arizona republic

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/01/07/20100107joe-arpaio-grand-jury.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/01/08/politics/main6071928.shtmlhttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/01/08/politics/main6071928.shtml

and remember the dupty who went through the attorneys papers in court? this is extra special joe style


We have been following the latest controversy of Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio in his support of a deputy who committed an outrageous act in rifling through the papers of a criminal defense attorney and then removing and copying notes about her client (here). Many questioned the actions of County Attorney Andrew Thomas who has supported Arpaio rather than the rule of law in the matter. Now, Thomas has joined Arpaio in charging the judge who stood up to the sheriff with three felony counts — bribery, obstructing a criminal investigation, and hindering prosecution.

While he has offered little evidence, Thomas held a press conference with Arpaio to make vague allegations of criminal acts by Donahoe regarding the county’s planned court tower, currently under construction. While he admitted that he has no evidence exists that the veteran judge personally has received personal financial benefits, Thomas insisted that Arizona has a “very broad” definition of bribery. Arpaio insists that he and county lawyers have been conspiring to block his investigation into the construction. The evidence: a series of rulings that Arpaio does not like.

The press did not seem to be buying it from Thomas, who has been criticized as a bit of a lap dog for Arpaio. Thomas finally said in frustration: “If I’m not explaining this well, I hope you’ll help me. . . In fairness,” Thomas said, after enduring increasingly pointed questions, “I admit this is a hard thing to believe.”

Notably, Thomas said that Donahoe had been obstructing justice “until about two hours ago.” The end of the obstruction appears to have been the cancellation of a hearing on matters related to the criminal investigation. Thomas explained “The hearing this afternoon was part of an ongoing criminal act,” Thomas said.

In addition, Thomas filed a “racketeering” lawsuit in FEDERAL COURT, accusing the supervisors, their lawyers, and the judges of being a criminal enterprise under RICO laws here).

None of this seems to make sense, but Thomas has brushed off accusations that he and Arpaio have made the county looked like a petty dictatorship. Instead, he found time to praise himself: “Quite candidly, you’re not going to find many prosecutors with the guts to prosecute judges.” Actually, prosecutors routinely investigate and prosecute judges. It is one of the mainstays of this blog. They usually have actual evidence to cite beyond rulings that prosecutors do not like.

The Arizona Republic has run an editorial entitled “Is there no one who will stand up to Thomas, Arpaio?, here. Veteran prosecutors have scoffed at the charges against the judge, here.

These men need to put up some real evidence when they are making charges against a judge — who just happened to send one of Arpaio’s deputies to jail. After roughly two weeks, the press has yet to be able to see any evidence except unhappiness with Donahoe’s rulings. While there may be criminality linked to the construction, the inclusion of the judge would require some clear and established link beyond the fact that he did not do what Arpaio demanded. If they have such evidence, they should produce it or at least describe it to counter the growing view that this is a retaliatory move.

Thomas and Arpaio have developed a sense of unchecked power that threaten core values of the law, where they seem to act on impulse and with utter impunity. While Arpaio may be able to garner support from voters with his theatrics, Thomas must also answer to the bar which has been strangely quiet over the course of this controversy. There actions not only degrade the state of Arizona (which is made to look like banana republic) but they are destroying integrity of the legal system itself.


complete with the arizonas republics editorial

Maricopa County Attorney Andrew Thomas and Sheriff Joe Arpaio have made a calculation.

They have decided to leverage their political popularity - which is to say, Joe Arpaio's electoral popularity - against the institutional strength of their opponents.

Normally, this is what we call "politics." But because Thomas and Arpaio have raised the stakes so high, it is no longer possible to dismiss these ongoing controversies as political business
as usual.

Effectively, we are witnessing two simultaneous events, one infinitely more destructive than the other.

The ever-escalating war over control of budgets and personnel between the county supervisors and the county Superior Court on one side and the sheriff and county attorney
on the other is the most visible aspect of this yearlong war.

The campaign being waged by Thomas and Arpaio is costly and institutionally destructive.

In recent weeks, this fight has made a sharp turn toward Armageddon with the public's attorney and sheriff taking some astonishing steps to criminalize their grievances. In the past two weeks especially, Thomas and Arpaio finally marched a mile too far.

They filed a federal conspiracy complaint against, essentially, all their political enemies. They lodged a criminal complaint against the presiding criminal-court judge. They filed additional criminal charges against one county supervisor and freshly indicted a second.

And, in classically intimidating fashion, they have left open the door for still more charges against still more officials. Over the weekend, sheriff's investigators visited the homes of at least six lower-level county officials seeking to bolster their accusations of conspiracy.

It strikes us that someone must stand up to this behavior. Someone of standing in this community must look these bullies with badges in the eye and declare, in no uncertain terms, that in the United States you don't get to indict those who displease you.

Even if you are the Toughest Backwater Sheriff in America - which, fool yourself not, Joe, is precisely how all those New Yorker Magazine and Los Angeles Times
reporters view you. Even if you, Andy Thomas, are the Toughest Backwater Sheriff's legal helpmate.

In recent days, we have contacted numerous business and community leaders, as well as state elected officials, on this subject. Who will stand up? So far, the answer is no one, at least not on the record.

We are gravely disappointed in the decision of Gov. Jan Brewer
not to intercede. The same disappointment holds for Attorney General Terry Goddard. Both have bully pulpits at their disposal, if not direct authority over events in Maricopa County. Yet both have opted to say nothing.

The escalating, Third Worldish chaos in county government is enveloping Arizona.

It is the dominant Arizona story nationally, far outstripping the state's horrid economy as a source of news.

But even worse, in our view, is the demoralizing, destructive effect these events are beginning to have within our own borders.

If the lawmen have such contempt for the rule of law, just what is the law? That is a terrible social question to contemplate, but it is one being forced on us now.
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Re: Ariz. Sheriff Investigated by Federal Grand Jury
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2010, 08:10:42 PM »
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2009/11/arpaio_i_decide_who_holds_pres.php


and the next one is extra special
http://www.heatcity.org/2009/12/thomas-arpaio-defend-their-war-as-judge-is-charged-with-obstructing-justice.html

Maricopa County’s top prosecutor, Andrew Thomas, looked at a wall of television cameras on Wednesday and asked reporters not to take his next statement the wrong way.

“Quite candidly, you’re not going to find many prosecutors with the guts to prosecute judges,” said the county attorney.

He was obviously frustrated at the questions he had been getting. For nearly an hour, Thomas sputtered and sighed as he tried to explain why he had just filed criminal charges against one of the most powerful judges in Maricopa County, Gary Donahoe.

The task wasn’t easy. Thomas and his ally, Sheriff Joe Arpaio, painted themselves as the crime fighters trying to root out what they called “deep-seated corruption” in Maricopa County, the kind that supposedly has stood in the way of justice being served for the “people of a free republic.”

But both men face mounting questions about their own credibility and whether they are using their law enforcement powers to settle political scores. In a room full of reporters, the skepticism about the charges against Donahoe, who had recently jailed one of Arpaio’s officers and who was about to rule whether Thomas could hire special prosecutors from outside the state, was almost overbearing.

Those charges came just a day after Thomas and Arpaio announced criminal indictments against two more of their adversaries, Maricopa County supervisors Don Stapley and Mary Rose Wilcox. Both have voted in recent months to curb the powers and spending of the county attorney and sheriff.

After being peppered at the news conference with questions about his and Arpaio’s motives for the criminal charges, Thomas held his hands open toward the group.

“If we could just step back for a moment,” he said. “Consider how extraordinary this situation is.”

The issue, he told the journalists, was not whether he is using his prosecutorial powers against his foes – because he denied that was the case. The real issue, Thomas said, is corruption in the Maricopa County Superior Court.

“Just look at the evidence,” Thomas said. “Look at what’s before you.”

At one point, he said he was not sure he was explaining himself very well and asked for the journalists to help him.

“I would just urge you to consider the evidence,” he said. “It is a hard thing to believe that members of the judiciary would be engaged in this conduct.”
The allegations

The charges filed Wednesday [PDF] accused the judge of three felonies: hindering a prosecution, obstructing justice and taking bribes.

All three were related to the construction of a new $340 million court tower, the most expensive capital project in Maricopa County history. The building was approved by the Board of Supervisors in a series of votes in 2007 and 2008 and it broke ground earlier this year. Since then, the sheriff’s and county attorney’s offices have begun to investigate its financing.

But Arpaio and Thomas alleged that Donahoe worked with private attorneys and other county officials to illegally block the investigation. In the complaint against him, prosecutors said Donahoe kicked the county attorney’s office off the case because it had a conflict of interest, and then refused to send the investigation to outside prosecutors.

The charges essentially accuse the judge of doing this so he and the Superior Court could benefit from the new tower, which will include state-of-the-art offices and dozens of new courtrooms.

Through a court spokeswoman, Donahoe declined to comment about the allegations. The charging papers require him to appear in court within 10 days as well as get his fingerprints and mugshot taken by the sheriff’s office.
More charges to come

The accusations are nothing new. In the past 10 days, Thomas and Arpaio have said them over and over through various outlets. From lawsuits to news releases to complaints filed with state agencies, the two men have launched a full assault on Donahoe and any other county official who has challenged them in the past year.

On Nov. 30, for example, the sheriff’s office sent a complaint about Donahoe to the state’s committee on judicial conduct. Much of the text used in what’s known as a “probable cause statement” for the criminal charges Wednesday appeared to be taken verbatim from the judicial complaint [PDF].

Additionally, Arpaio and Thomas made similar allegations in a wide-ranging federal lawsuit they filed on Dec. 1. In the suit, four judges, all five members of the Board of Supervisors, the county’s top two appointed officials, a leading attorney for the county and two private lawyers were accused of engaging in a massive conspiracy against the sheriff and county attorney.

In total, 14 people were sued by Arpaio and Thomas, and since then, three of them have also been charged with crimes by Thomas’ office.

At the news conference, Thomas hinted that charges may be pending for the other 11, saying all of them were under “active criminal investigation.”

“No one is above the law,” he said. “There may well be other cases.”

Despite having just called his third news conference in two weeks about the allegations, Thomas also said he was “not going to try this in the media” and declined to talk specifics about the other investigations.
Extraordinary times

Arpaio said very little during the ordeal, standing stone-faced at the side of the lectern and letting Thomas do most of the talking.

“It’s sad that this is going on,” Arpaio said at one point. “We’re both trying to do our job, just trying to do our job. But we’re tired of the stonewalling.”

He also responded to questions about a hotline set up specifically for people to tell the Department of Justice about civil rights violations by the sheriff. It’s part of one of several ongoing criminal and civil investigations by the DOJ into Arpaio’s office, none of which have so far produced any results.

“I said two years ago – call the FBI, call the FBI,” Arpaio said. “Maybe they’ll share those calls with us. I doubt it.”

By the end of it, the two men were looking tired and the questions had died down. Thomas stepped back in.

“These are extraordinary events,” he said, “and extraordinary times in our state.”

The two men soon left the room.   this is far from the silliest judicial nonsense i've sen in my life but then again i lived through the reign of mayor for life marion barry as well as studied the rule of idi amin  but its making the top 5 easily.
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Re: Ariz. Sheriff Investigated by Federal Grand Jury
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2010, 10:19:37 PM »
Forecast for this thread is pissy, with continued pissy on the radar, per the usual suspects.

We can do without it.
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Thousands protest sheriff's immigration efforts
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2010, 06:06:04 PM »
Breaking out the socialist realism-themed posters is not hte best sales tactic.

Also, I think this protest would have been the ideal time/location for a raid.



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PHOENIX – Thousands of immigrant rights advocates marched in front of a county jail in Phoenix Saturday in a protest that was aimed at Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio's immigration efforts and was marked by a clash between a small group of protesters and police officers.

Organizers say the protest was meant to show officials in Washington that Arpaio shouldn't handle immigration enforcement, and that Congress and the Obama administration need to come up with a way for immigrant workers to come to the country legally.

The three-mile walk that started in a west Phoenix park ended by afternoon at the Durango Jail Complex, a collection of five jails, where officials played music, including a record by singer Linda Ronstadt, to drown out noise made by protesters. Ronstadt took part in Saturday's protest.

Protesters chanted "Joe must go" as they approached the jail complex. One person carried a sign that said "We are human" and bore a picture of a lawman with a wolf's face. A family of five wore T-shirts saying "Who would Jesus deport?"

For his part, Arpaio said he wasn't bothered by the protesters and that they should be directing their frustrations at Congress because it has the power to change America's immigration laws.

"They are zeroing in on the wrong guy," Arpaio said. "They ought to be zeroing in on the president."

The demonstration was peaceful until police say protesters near the end of the procession started throwing water bottles at officers. Phoenix Police Lt. Pat Hofmann said officers used pepper spray as they tried to separate protesters from an officer who was trying to take away the bottles.

Phoenix police spokesman Sgt. Andy Hill said on-scene supervisors described a group of demonstrators purposefully disrupting the demonstration by assaulting several police officers and a police horse.

He said one demonstrator struck a police sergeant on the head and chest with a flagpole. Two others threw water bottles, possibly containing rocks, at other officers, but missed.

Hill also said a police officer on horseback was assaulted while her horse was mobbed, punched and pushed. The officer used pepper spray to stop the assault.

"Most regrettably, a nearby 2-year-old child was hit by some of the pepper spray," said Hill, adding that the Phoenix Fire Department was called to the scene to treat the girl. "I am told she was released and was expected to be OK."

No one else was seriously injured, he said.

Phoenix police said Saturday night that five people were arrested during the protest and taken to Maricopa County Jail. Four were booked on suspicion of aggravated assault on police. The other faces disorderly conduct and resisting arrest.

Though the scene of the disturbance was cleared within minutes, the aftermath was chaotic. Protesters yelled obscenities at police officers in riot gear. One officer shook his pepper spray canister as he ordered people to keep moving. One protester wore goggles, and several others wrapped bandanas around their mouths.

Critics have accused deputies working in Arpaio's immigration efforts of racial profiling, which the sheriff denies. He says his deputies approach people when they have probable cause to believe they had committed crimes.

Ten months ago, Arpaio learned he was under investigation by the U.S. Justice Department for alleged discrimination and unconstitutional searches. He says the investigation was prompted by his immigration efforts, although federal authorities haven't provided details.

Since early 2008, Arpaio has run 13 immigration and crimes sweeps involving officers who flood a section of a city — in some cases heavily Latino areas — to seek out traffic violators and arrest other violators.

Arpaio's power to make federal immigration arrests was stripped away three months ago by officials in Washington, but he continues his immigration efforts through the enforcement of two state laws.

A federal grand jury also is investigating Arpaio and his office on allegations of abusing his powers.



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Re: Thousands protest sheriff's immigration efforts
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2010, 06:20:50 PM »
I wonder how many of our hard-earned tax dollars were funneled into that "protest." I wonder how many of those "protesters" are in our country illegally.
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Excuse me, but do you even have a horse in this race?  I have not gotten the impression you live in Az, and yet you seem to have a real intense dislike of Sheriff Joe.  As AzRedHawk has stated above, many of us here like his methods and message and keep voting him back in.  Personally, I'd vote for Joe for President.  I doubt he would run though since he can't stand politicians.