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Re: Model Rockets
« Reply #50 on: February 25, 2007, 05:47:06 PM »
Dad and I did three more launches yesterday.
The Alpha three kit had one flawless flight, and one stuck in a tree but recovered flight.
The Estes highflyer kit...well that one went up about 50 feet, then nosed over and drove into the ground under power.

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Re: Model Rockets
« Reply #51 on: February 25, 2007, 06:55:52 PM »
Dad and I did three more launches yesterday.
The Alpha three kit had one flawless flight, and one stuck in a tree but recovered flight.
The Estes highflyer kit...well that one went up about 50 feet, then nosed over and drove into the ground under power.

Ah, well.  The more you fly, the more you crunch.  All part of the fun.
I bend more of my small ones than the big ones, for some reason.  It's easier on the wallet that way, though.

I often modify the smaller rockets using techniques learned building the big ones.  Five minute epoxy instead of white glue; kevlar or nylon shock cords instead of the stock Estes rubber bands; nylon chutes instead of plastic; beefed up fins and motor mounts, etc.

Upscaling a small Estes rocket to fly on larger motors is fun, too.  It requires some back-of-the-envelope calculations to scale up the various part sizes correctly.  I cheat, though, and use computer software to model the flight characteristics of the final version before its first flight.

I enjoy scratch building rockets to fly on D motors, buying parts from various vendors.  I used to fly stuff on A through C motors with the kids when they were younger.  Even though I have a Level 2 high power certification, the small stuff can be just as fun to fly as the big, high power rockets. 
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Re: Model Rockets
« Reply #52 on: February 27, 2007, 10:58:21 AM »
www.rocketryforum.com has lots of good info and links on this subject.

You could also try cooking up your own propellant to save money. "Rocket candy" should work just fine for the smaller ones.
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Re: Model Rockets
« Reply #53 on: March 06, 2007, 05:26:44 AM »
Estes rockets are a lotta fun for a very cheap price.  It's also something that kids really enjoy.  And, if you go to a designated rocket launch area, you can have fun watching other people launching their rockets.

The Estes rockets typically top out at about 600 feet, as I recall.  Some models will exceed that.

I like Aerotech:

http://www.aerotech-rocketry.com/

Download the PDF catalog by clicking Products.

Their rockets are much bigger (e.g., 1.5 inches diameter, 4 to 6 feet long) and fly much higher (1000-2000-3000 feet).  And, you can get engines that emit different colors smoke to aid in tracking. 

Everything (launcher, rockets, engines) are maybe 6 to 10 times as expensive as Estes, though.

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« Reply #54 on: March 06, 2007, 06:17:47 AM »
Estes rockets are a lotta fun for a very cheap price.  It's also something that kids really enjoy.  And, if you go to a designated rocket launch area, you can have fun watching other people launching their rockets.

The Estes rockets typically top out at about 600 feet, as I recall.  Some models will exceed that.

I like Aerotech:

http://www.aerotech-rocketry.com/

Download the PDF catalog by clicking Products.

Their rockets are much bigger (e.g., 1.5 inches diameter, 4 to 6 feet long) and fly much higher (1000-2000-3000 feet).  And, you can get engines that emit different colors smoke to aid in tracking. 

Everything (launcher, rockets, engines) are maybe 6 to 10 times as expensive as Estes, though.

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Re: Model Rockets
« Reply #55 on: March 06, 2007, 06:03:56 PM »
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I need to be strong and not look at that link again.
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DustinD:  Great web site !  I hadn't seen that one before, and I did a lot of searching about nine months ago.

Apogee.  Note the presence of the Aspire model, which is only $17.58, but will fly 5280 feet (1 mile !) .  Id think the badge of honor for that model is, how many times did you fly the same rocket and still find it ?  Maybe one hashmark on the fin for each 1 mile flight.   smiley
http://www.apogeerockets.com/

http://www.discountrocketry.com/

I find these reviews somewhat interesting, but they tend to be very descriptive with little editorial commentary, and they tend to be very similar from model to model.  (I built the rocket; good instructions !  I flew the rocket; it flew straight off the launcher !  The rocket came down; the parachute worked !   grin  )
http://www.rocketreviews.com/

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Re: Model Rockets
« Reply #56 on: March 07, 2007, 08:28:57 PM »
Hopefully these will whet your appetite.

Try LOC/Precision at http://www.locprecision.com/.  A reputable manufacturer of mid- and high power rocket kits and supplies.

Giant Leap Rocketry at http://www.giantleaprocketry.com/hpdefault.asp.  A reputable dealer of rocket kits and parts.

Fliskits, another manufacturer of model rockets, at http://fliskits.com/

This reliable rocket company has a great name, "Public Missles".  http://www.publicmissiles.com/

Another good rocket making outfit, based in Oregon: http://binderdesign.com/

Cesaroni Technology at http://www.pro38.com/.  Another good high power motor manufacturer.

If you are in the Pacific Northwest try http://www.oregonrocketry.com/.  It is an Oregon-based rocket club.  Very well known in this neck of the woods.


The two main national rocketry organizations:

The National Association of Rocketry at http://www.nar.org/

The Tripoli Rocketry Association at http://www.tripoli.org/

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Re: Model Rockets
« Reply #57 on: March 08, 2007, 04:28:20 AM »
I've been using model rockets in my classroom for 30 years.  During that time my students have launched over 10,000 rockets.  I still get a thrill every time we launch.  Model rocketry is a great hobby.

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Re: Model Rockets
« Reply #58 on: March 08, 2007, 09:41:17 AM »
I'm planning a few launches this weekend.  I'll let you know how it goes.

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Re: Model Rockets
« Reply #59 on: March 08, 2007, 09:43:09 AM »
I'm planning a few launches this weekend.  I'll let you know how it goes.

Do you think you could take some pics to share? Pretty please?  grin
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Re: Model Rockets
« Reply #60 on: March 08, 2007, 09:46:53 AM »
Sure, but it's just an Estes Alpha III kit, nothing special. 

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« Reply #61 on: March 12, 2007, 11:39:09 AM »
Been readin' this post and tryin' to figure out how to build one from scratch. The wrapping paper doesn't seem to wrap to tight, like some folks I know. Sssoooooooo......

Dug out the only rocket left: An R2-D2 kit my sis or daughter gave son & I a few years back. Seems it's always windy here, especially when he visits. Coupons enclosed expired in 2000 if that tells ya' anything.
Put it together in about 30 minutes, didn't have any spare AA batteries around so dug out the old 1/2" alum plate with speaker wires. (see prev post), popped the hood on the F-150 and after a few tries finally got it to fire. Didn't get the altitude "normal" rockets would get w/ a C engine and actually angled into the wind a bit. Hit maybe 100feet. Misjudged the "high-altitude" wind a little and she snagged the trees at the edge of the woods but was recovered intact.

Looked at one of the local Wal-Marts and the have NO engines on display and only the mini-rockets. Guess I'll have to stock up next time I see some. Hate to do mail-order but when you live in the boonies........
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Re: Model Rockets
« Reply #62 on: March 12, 2007, 11:45:44 AM »
OOpps, forgot to try posting the pics.

See what happens, not posted pics here before.
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Re: Model Rockets
« Reply #63 on: March 12, 2007, 11:48:09 AM »
Again:
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Re: Model Rockets
« Reply #64 on: March 12, 2007, 11:49:41 AM »
Crap! Once more then I'll try to find the instr.
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« Reply #65 on: March 12, 2007, 11:51:53 AM »
OK!



On the pad (with alum plate and wiring under the Estes launch pad).

I KNEW I could do it!
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Re: Model Rockets
« Reply #66 on: March 12, 2007, 12:00:12 PM »
I wasn't able to launch this weekend, too busy.  Trying again for next weekend.
Oh, I added an Estes Big Bertha to my fleet.

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Re: Model Rockets
« Reply #67 on: March 12, 2007, 06:55:44 PM »
Bob, you posted those pics just for me, right? C'mon, fess up. Wink Tongue grin
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Re: Model Rockets
« Reply #68 on: March 14, 2007, 01:28:21 PM »
My roommate and I used to launch off the Estes models while I was in college. We did this next to the local airport until we got a warning about doing so. That was 15 years ago, I imagine a trip to the federal pen or even Gitmo would be the result of launching them near an airport these days.
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Re: Model Rockets
« Reply #69 on: March 14, 2007, 03:02:51 PM »
Cosine: Dang, I forgot to put your handle in the intro!

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Re: Model Rockets
« Reply #70 on: March 16, 2007, 06:06:51 AM »
I heard Dept of Homeland Security was doing something to limit/license/watch over model rocketing.  Anyone know of such action?

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Re: Model Rockets
« Reply #71 on: March 16, 2007, 07:32:15 AM »
DHS and BATFE(ces) got the big smackdown over that, AFAIK.

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« Reply #72 on: March 16, 2007, 06:58:59 PM »
DHS and BATFE(ces) got the big smackdown over that, AFAIK.
Not quite yet, but we're working on it.  More to come in the case later this year.
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