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Title: patriot act obama style
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on May 06, 2009, 11:26:52 PM
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1721658/free_ashton_lundeby_movement_gains.html

16 year old kid shafted for 2 months under the hope change regime
Title: Re: patriot act obama style
Post by: makattak on May 07, 2009, 12:21:01 AM
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1721658/free_ashton_lundeby_movement_gains.html

16 year old kid shafted for 2 months under the hope change regime

He attends a church.

Obviously he's one of those "Right-wing Extremists" we were warned about.

I bet he's against abortion too!
Title: Re: patriot act obama style
Post by: MicroBalrog on May 07, 2009, 01:16:51 AM
See, this is PRECISELY what opponents of the Act warned about.
Title: Re: patriot act obama style
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on May 07, 2009, 09:55:20 AM
I'm kinda surprised that you of all people brought this to our attention, C&SD.  You're normally "johnny law can do no wrong" when it comes to LEO snafus.  I thought of posting this to APS when I heard about it yesterday, and imagined your response would be rather different than mine.

As far as the story itself goes.... Mom says they were at church when the calls went out.

Either the kid VPN'ed into his own router from church then launched a VoIP call, the kid wasn't at church with his family, or someone else got into his router.

Interesting they arrested the kid though... and not Mom or anyone else.  That they deliberately went after the minor in the house rather than the legally culpable party.  Makes me wonder if they have audio that matches his voice.  Or something else that points to the kid in a more direct manner than a router IP address (which is pretty weak evidence, IMO).
Title: Re: patriot act obama style
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on May 07, 2009, 10:06:32 AM
i hate real abuses. only thing i hate more is fraudulent claims of abuse.i see way more of the one than the other. the bogus ones make it hard to pursue legitimate grievances.
Title: Re: patriot act obama style
Post by: lone_gunman on May 08, 2009, 03:19:08 PM
Why are we surprised?  That Patriot Act was a bad law from the beginning.  The Republicans gave us this crap.  Fear wins over freedom.

Some famous politician/philosopher once said that when new legislation is proposed, we should not look at the good it will do when administered properly, but at the harm it will do when administered improperly.
Title: Re: patriot act obama style
Post by: mtnbkr on May 08, 2009, 03:22:05 PM
Why are we surprised?  That Patriot Act was a bad law from the beginning.  The Republicans gave us this crap.  Fear wins over freedom.

Some famous politician/philosopher once said that when new legislation is proposed, we should not look at the good it will do when administered properly, but at the harm it will do when administered improperly.

Yup, but when it was passed, all the good Republicans said we needed the law to fight terrorists.  Nobody wanted to think about the day when those shiny new tools were left in the toolshed after Bush left office...

Chris
Title: Re: patriot act obama style
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on May 08, 2009, 08:10:20 PM
turns out the kids a punk and was actually charged under a 70 year old law

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/1518423.html
http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=97376
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/05/teenage-bomb-threat-suspect-was-an-internet-prank-phone-call-star/

mommas not a treat either
Title: Re: patriot act obama style
Post by: mtnbkr on May 08, 2009, 11:53:07 PM
This is the first time I've noticed he's from Oxford.  That's a podunk, nothing town about an hour from Raleigh.

And yes, she sounds like an idiot.

Chris