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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Brad Johnson on January 17, 2017, 06:03:33 PM
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Sentence commuted. [barf]
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/17/obama-commutes-chelsea-mannings-sentence-for-leaking-army-documents.html
Nothing to say that wouldn't peg the APS Profane-O-Meters, so I'll just leave this here for y'all to peruse on your own.
Brad
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Obama has commuted the sentence of Bradly Manning.
About the only positive I can come up with is maybe now the US taxpayer won't be paying for his dickectomy.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/17/obama-commutes-chelsea-mannings-sentence-for-leaking-army-documents.html (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/17/obama-commutes-chelsea-mannings-sentence-for-leaking-army-documents.html)
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Wonder if Assange is going to be extradited now?
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/01/17/chelsea-mannings-reduced-sentence-could-strengthen-assanges-case-former-prosecutor-says.html
I doubt he sticks to his word.
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Merginated sans comment. Otherwise I would have to permaban myself....
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Merginated sans comment. Otherwise I would have to permaban myself....
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Ayup.
2 days and change, and we're at least rid of that clown.
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I thought Snowden did less than that guy. Maybe I am mis-remembering.
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https://twitter.com/ChampionCapua/status/821506358449238016
Marc Caputo @MarcACaputo 3h3 hours ago
Rubio statement pointedly avoids the first name "Chelsea" in condemning Obama's commutation of the trans soldier's sentence
100 Proof
@ChampionCapua
@MarcACaputo You pointedly avoided calling him Senator Rubio. #Vapors #PearlsClutched
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About the only positive I can come up with is maybe now the US taxpayer won't be paying for his dickectomy.
That was my immediate reaction.
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What is have in store for the goat humping Bergdahl?
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I'd still like to see a breakdown by ethnicity of the many, many people who he's pardoned or commuted.
The utter absence of comment on this in the news media is . . . suggestive.
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. . . suggestive.
Suggestive? Have you been in a coma for the last 8 years? There is no "suggestive" bias in most of the media. The bias is blatant and unrepentant. In many cases the bias is celebrated.
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The thing that baffles me is how much praise Obama is getting for this - as if he wasn't the man in charge when she committed these offences, was arrested for them, was charged with them, was convicted for them and was held under the conditions that she has been. He isn't even releasing her at once, just dangling her in front of Trump for three months.
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"She"? "Her"? Last time I heard, Manning still had a penis.
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"She"? "Her"? Last time I heard, Manning still had a penis.
Even if it didn't, can't change DNA.
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Even if it didn't, can't change DNA.
He'll probably go back to being "Bradley" as soon as he's out of prison. The whole Chelsea thing was a ruse, and Obama fell for it (probably wanted a date.) JMO
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Well there you go...... it was a tough time for Brad. ;/
“Chelsea Manning has served a tough prison sentence, so the notion that the average person who is thinking about disclosing vital classified information would think that it goes unpunished, I don’t think would get that impression from the sentence that Chelsea Manning has served,” Obama argued.
Citing the time served and saying Manning’s sentence was “disproportionate,” Obama said: “It made sense to commute, and not pardon, her sentencing.”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/18/obama-defends-manning-commutation-amid-criticism-claims-justice-was-served.html
Isn't prison supposed to be tough, well all except for the Fed lockup in Lompoc. ;)
bob
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The whole Chelsea thing was a ruse
Well I guess it was an effective one, seems to be a lot of focus on the guy's dick / no dick situation.
After seeing Clinton & Petraeus avoid jail for mishandled classified info, Snowden idolized in a movie, and Assange being quoted by the president elect, I can't say I'm too surprised to see Manning's sentence cut short. Leaks are just an accepted part of the game now.
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Isn't prison supposed to be tough, well all except for the Fed lockup in Lompoc. ;)
Don't forget Club Fed in Danbury, CT
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“Chelsea Manning has served a tough prison sentence, so the notion that the average person who is thinking about disclosing vital classified information would think that it goes unpunished, I don’t think would get that impression from the sentence that Chelsea Manning has served,” Obama argued.
Citing the time served and saying Manning’s sentence was “disproportionate,” Obama said: “It made sense to commute, and not pardon, her sentencing.”
Let's see. We have a sailor doing a year for taking a selfie aboard a submarine. I haven't heard anything about him photographing top secret equipment, but just for breaking the rule of no photos.
Manning disclosed thousands of classified documents that would have been useful to Al Queda, the Taliban, and other bad actors. The documents compromised some of our troops' activities, and also compromised collaborators. In WWII he would have been executed. But now seven years is "disproportionate"?
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Well I guess it was an effective one, seems to be a lot of focus on the guy's dick / no dick situation.
After seeing Clinton & Petraeus avoid jail for mishandled classified info, Snowden idolized in a movie, and Assange being quoted by the president elect, I can't say I'm too surprised to see Manning's sentence cut short. Leaks are just an accepted part of the game now.
Did Assange ever personally mishandle or steal our classified information? I thought he just received it from people who did. I am sure there are lots of other examples besides him.
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Let's see. We have a sailor doing a year for taking a selfie aboard a submarine. I haven't heard anything about him photographing top secret equipment, but just for breaking the rule of no photos.
Manning disclosed thousands of classified documents that would have been useful to Al Queda, the Taliban, and other bad actors. The documents compromised some of our troops' activities, and also compromised collaborators. In WWII he would have been executed. But now seven years is "disproportionate"?
Actually, the equipment he photographed would have been at the minimum "confidential" depending on where in the engineering spaces he took the shot.
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Actually, the equipment he photographed would have been at the minimum "confidential" depending on where in the engineering spaces he took the shot.
One report I read said there was a sonar screen in the background.
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https://huwieler.net/2017/01/18/chelsea-manning-in-basic-combat-training/
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https://huwieler.net/2017/01/18/chelsea-manning-in-basic-combat-training/
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It is a well written story and I don't believe it.
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It is a well written story and I don't believe it.
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Did Assange ever personally mishandle or steal our classified information?
He didn't personally steal any of it but he certainly did mishandle it. Not the same way as Clinton or Petraeus as they were cleared to have it in the first place, but he knew he had classified info and decided the best course of action was to publish it on the internet.
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One report I read said there was a sonar screen in the background.
I'm not aware of any SONAR (Its an acronym) screens in engineering spaces but I'm 25 years out of date
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He didn't personally steal any of it but he certainly did mishandle it. Not the same way as Clinton or Petraeus as they were cleared to have it in the first place, but he knew he had classified info and decided the best course of action was to publish it on the internet.
Assange is not a US citizen and has no real legal requirement to abide by US laws concerning classified material. On the other hand there may be some espionage statutes that he could be charged under but as far as I know he wasn't in the US when the theft and leak happened, he wasn't in the US when he received the material.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending him and personally think he is deserving of termination.
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https://huwieler.net/2017/01/18/chelsea-manning-in-basic-combat-training/
Interesting background on PVT Manning. Due to personal interaction with this whole saga, I was aware that Manning had significant mental issues. Unlike a lot of folks here, I don't have any animosity towards trans folks. That said, if someone is having severe mental issues, the military is generally not the place for them. I'm quite aware of the military having a long and frankly stupid relationship with mental illness. We should have mental health available, and those mental health professionals should be able to pull the rip cord, give people that need it a general or medical discharge and VA benefits. Rather than let it escalate to Manning or Nidal Hasan. Which it too often does.
Even more fundamental than that, every drill sergeant in every branch of the US military should have the ability to drop a recruit regardless of quotas or other policy. If we can't trust a drill sergeants with that responsibility and duty, they shouldn't be a drill sergeant. I guarantee, over 95% of later problem children that make the news would have been dropped by their initial drill sergeants. Hell, most recruits could have pointed them out in about two seconds. Manning was clearly a nutter and screwup, from day one. All of us that went through Basic saw them and recognized them.
Manning showed all the classic signs. Being a quitter. Being a blue falcon. Drama. Not wanting to help fellow soldiers. Not trying. Manning isn't my primary concern. The other thousand potential Mannings are.
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Rev nailed it.
I saw it back in 1983 at Leonard Wood. Only back then, Drill Sergeants did have the ability to get rid of the sick, lame, and lazy. We started off with around 230 and graduated 180 something. We even picked up a few along way. Guys that had gotten hurt or were getting a second chance because they couldn't complete some phase of training with their original company. Most of the former graduated; very, very few of the latter (mostly Basic Rifle Marksmanship failures, they just couldn't quality with the M16, even spending most of their days on the Weaponeer.*)
A Manning type, weak mentally, would have been weed out and TDP'd (Trainee Discharge Program) the first two-three weeks. That's when the Drills rode everyone hard, trying to get you to quit, to see how hard and how far they could you and you could push yourself. By week five, those who could hack it, were going to graduate, baring being a *expletive deleted*ck-up and not being able to shoot or complete the common tasks for the end of cycle test.
Yes, Manning obviously had/has mental problems. And most definitely should have been discharged in BCT. But the drive to keep up the numbers prevented that. Lowering the standards also enable people like Manning to enlist and get passed through BCT, where the weeding out should have happened., but didn't.
Does the Army (and US military) owe anything to folks like Manning, who joined with obvious mental issues? No, I don't think so. If I remember correctly about what they told us about TPD, was that it like you never joined. The Army owes you nothing, and it's not like you were given a BCD or General Discharge. It was basically "Thanks for Playing, you get no lovely parting gifts, just a bus ticket home."
* What made things even worse for those that NO-GO'd BRM was the fact that A) Most of the Drill Sergeants were Infantry. and even worse B) The cycle before us, every last swinging richard had qualified with the M16 on the first try. 100% GO. There was was this Red streamer on the Company Guidon that read "100% BRM". And our Drills were bound and determined to repeat that feat. When we didn't, not only did the bolos get absolutely smoked there at the range, but the entire company got smoked for the next week or so. My arms still ache thinking about how much time I spent with my rifle held out in front of me. It was like week 1 all over again. And those that continued to bolo got more hell, then recycled. It was only in week seven that we finally were taken off "Total Control", and the drills relaxed a bit. But man were they pissed when we didn't 100% qualify.
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Manning showed all the classic signs. Being a quitter. Being a blue falcon. Drama. Not wanting to help fellow soldiers. Not trying. Manning isn't my primary concern. The other thousand potential Mannings are.
What's a blue falcon? Never encountered the term before.
[Edit] Never mind -- bravo foxtrot. Got it.
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Apologies, I should have specified, VA mental health benefits for actual veterans. Should already be the case, but should be the case for folks thrown out of the military for being nutters. Cheaper than if some nutter goes ballistic after being thrown out.
Not folks kicked out in Basic.
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Now the special little snowflake has penned a criticism of the very man who set it free.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/26/trump-rips-ungrateful-chelsea-manning-after-obama-criticism.html
“Unfortunately, despite [Obama’s] faith in our system and his positive track record on many issues over the last eight years, there have been very few permanent accomplishments,”
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I would say you getting 20 some years cut from your sentence is rather permanent.
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https://huwieler.net/2017/01/18/chelsea-manning-in-basic-combat-training/
Interesting background on PVT Manning. Due to personal interaction with this whole saga, I was aware that Manning had significant mental issues. Unlike a lot of folks here, I don't have any animosity towards trans folks. That said, if someone is having severe mental issues, the military is generally not the place for them. I'm quite aware of the military having a long and frankly stupid relationship with mental illness. We should have mental health available, and those mental health professionals should be able to pull the rip cord, give people that need it a general or medical discharge and VA benefits. Rather than let it escalate to Manning or Nidal Hasan. Which it too often does.
Even more fundamental than that, every drill sergeant in every branch of the US military should have the ability to drop a recruit regardless of quotas or other policy. If we can't trust a drill sergeants with that responsibility and duty, they shouldn't be a drill sergeant. I guarantee, over 95% of later problem children that make the news would have been dropped by their initial drill sergeants. Hell, most recruits could have pointed them out in about two seconds. Manning was clearly a nutter and screwup, from day one. All of us that went through Basic saw them and recognized them.
Manning showed all the classic signs. Being a quitter. Being a blue falcon. Drama. Not wanting to help fellow soldiers. Not trying. Manning isn't my primary concern. The other thousand potential Mannings are.
Regarding the bolded portion, I doubt anyone on here has any animosity towards trans folk in general. I think most of us just have a live and let live policy. Being forced to do something or pay for something is where we start getting upset.
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/25/compromise-doesnt-work-political-opponents-chelsea-manning
Manning starts off by criticizing Obama as weak. Can't argue much with that, though oddly Trump did.
He complains about Pulse nightclub attack, oddly failing to note it as Islamic terrorism.
Rest is pretty aimless but emotional rant that poor, black, brown, queer and trans people will be mistreated unless an even more progressive President is elected. Because Clinton pandering to the usual suspects intermixed with "Why won't you lazy inbred counsin humping Flyover states vote for me?!" worked out so well for America.
Contrary to the interwebz exploding that Trump is literally Hitler and as Manning directly stated, just itching to lock up some, most or all "poor, black, brown, queer and trans people". I did find it odd about Manning not mentioning Islam once. I really don't want someone legitimately fascist obtaining the Oval Office, and the reaction of the loony left at pretty mundane middle of the road candidates like Mitt Romney doesn't help elevate that concern.
Just hoping that in 4 or 8 years we can have a chance to vote for the man we should have elected for the highest office in the United States Government, General Mattis.
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Regarding the bolded portion, I doubt anyone on here has any animosity towards trans folk in general. I think most of us just have a live and let live policy. Being forced to do something or pay for something is where we start getting upset.
For me, it was when the Left (of which the "trans community" seems happy to be a part) began their campaign to villify me and mine, simply because we didn't go along with their newly-concocted groupthink on the issue. It became obvious they were our enemy, even if they were only being used as tools against us.
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As far as Assange goes. I don't assign any guilt to him on this. His mission statement is publishing secret stuff and dirt. It is what he does. It is also why he is hiding in a foreign embassy.
IMO, the emails that got out with Hilary talking about ordering a drone strike on him tells me the role Wikileaks is playing should be played by someone (our own media?). Another thought is that our own media and our Congressmen have published and released classified information in the past also.
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For me, it was when the Left (of which the "trans community" seems happy to be a part) began their campaign to villify me and mine, simply because we didn't go along with their newly-concocted groupthink on the issue. It became obvious they were our enemy, even if they were only being used as tools against us.
And of course the Right never vilified them and theirs or used violence against them. ;/
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As far as Assange goes. I don't assign any guilt to him on this. His mission statement is publishing secret stuff and dirt. It is what he does. It is also why he is hiding in a foreign embassy.
IMO, the emails that got out with Hilary talking about ordering a drone strike on him tells me the role Wikileaks is playing should be played by someone (our own media?). Another thought is that our own media and our Congressmen have published and released classified information in the past also.
I thought he was holed up in the embassy to avoid extradition for sexual assault charges.
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And of course the Right never vilified them and theirs or used violence against them. ;/
What did you have in mind?
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I thought he was holed up in the embassy to avoid extradition for sexual assault charges.
He is -- the Ecuadorian Embassy in London, specifically. But he (supposedly) said if Obama would commute Manning's sentence he would agree to be extradited.
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/25/compromise-doesnt-work-political-opponents-chelsea-manning
Manning starts off by criticizing Obama as weak. Can't argue much with that, though oddly Trump did.
He complains about Pulse nightclub attack, oddly failing to note it as Islamic terrorism.
Rest is pretty aimless but emotional rant that poor, black, brown, queer and trans people will be mistreated unless an even more progressive President is elected. Because Clinton pandering to the usual suspects intermixed with "Why won't you lazy inbred counsin humping Flyover states vote for me?!" worked out so well for America.
Contrary to the interwebz exploding that Trump is literally Hitler and as Manning directly stated, just itching to lock up some, most or all "poor, black, brown, queer and trans people". I did find it odd about Manning not mentioning Islam once. I really don't want someone legitimately fascist obtaining the Oval Office, and the reaction of the loony left at pretty mundane middle of the road candidates like Mitt Romney doesn't help elevate that concern.
Just hoping that in 4 or 8 years we can have a chance to vote for the man we should have elected for the highest office in the United States Government, General Mattis.
Manning is a ungrateful little *expletive deleted*ck, isn't he...
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I thought he was holed up in the embassy to avoid extradition for sexual assault charges.
From what I have heard, the sexual assault charges amount to a he said-she said issue that is questionable. If he were Muslim, they wouldn't care at all.
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From what I have heard, the sexual assault charges amount to a he said-she said issue that is questionable.
This; one of those convenient accusations that only turned up when they needed something sufficiently universally reprehensible to charge him with.
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/27/jailed-navy-sailors-family-hopeful-after-trump-tells-hannity-is-considering-pardon.html
In other news Trump is mulling a pardon for the Sailor who is in prison for the sub pics. Hope he issues it.
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/27/jailed-navy-sailors-family-hopeful-after-trump-tells-hannity-is-considering-pardon.html
In other news Trump is mulling a pardon for the Sailor who is in prison for the sub pics. Hope he issues it.
The only problem (well the biggest problem) I have with this kid getting a pardon is from the way the breach was discovered.
The sailor admitted he knew the areas was classified yet he took the pictures to "show his family what he did in the Navy". If that was the case then why did the phone with the pictures still on it end up at the local dump where it was discovered by the dump foreman?
Also, allegedly after he was contacted by the FBI and NCIS he decided destroying the evidence was the prudent course of action.
I think he is lucky he only got a year.
http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/us-servicemember-admits-illegally-retaining-photos-taken-inside-nuclear-submarine-and
http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-sailor-submarine-photos-sentenced-20160819-story.html
bob
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/27/jailed-navy-sailors-family-hopeful-after-trump-tells-hannity-is-considering-pardon.html
In other news Trump is mulling a pardon for the Sailor who is in prison for the sub pics. Hope he issues it.
I would rather he pardon Snowdon.
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/05/15/chelsea-manning-to-remain-in-army-receive-health-care-benefits-after-prison-release.html
So this special little snowflake is getting out of the DB this week but is going to remain on active duty, w/ no pay but w/ health benefits. Most likely going to have its manhood removed.
Be curious as to where it will be stationed and what duties it will be expected to carry out while waiting to be officially released. I would say cutting grass with a pair of scissors, one blade at a time would be nice, or painting rocks.
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/05/15/chelsea-manning-to-remain-in-army-receive-health-care-benefits-after-prison-release.html
So this special little snowflake is getting out of the DB this week but is going to remain on active duty, w/ no pay but w/ health benefits. Most likely going to have its manhood removed.
I think the man is crazy and a traitor, but even I think that mutilation is a punishment beyond the pale.
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/05/15/chelsea-manning-to-remain-in-army-receive-health-care-benefits-after-prison-release.html
So this special little snowflake is getting out of the DB this week but is going to remain on active duty, w/ no pay but w/ health benefits. Most likely going to have its manhood removed.
Be curious as to where it will be stationed and what duties it will be expected to carry out while waiting to be officially released. I would say cutting grass with a pair of scissors, one blade at a time would be nice, or painting rocks.
Probably down at Ft. Sam Houston, in the same unit with Bergdahl....
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Probably down at Ft. Sam Houston, in the same unit with Bergdahl....
What'd that CO do to deserve such animosity from you??
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I think the man is crazy and a traitor, but even I think that mutilation is a punishment beyond the pale.
I'm pretty sure you're being snarky, but he was referring to Manning's elective surgery...
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What'd that CO do to deserve such animosity from you??
Not me but he must have really screwed the pooch* to deserve those two. I'm sure he's the Charles Atlas of his Senior Rater's Profile.
(At one point in time Baumholder had two Field Artillery Captains as OIC's of the Golf Course. While in command of two separate Batteries they sent rounds out of safety. One Battery damn near killed a group of Friendlies on the 100M long Range 4 and the other Battery decided to blast a German farmer's field off post. Whoops...)
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Not me but he must have really screwed the pooch* to deserve those two. I'm sure he's the Charles Atlas of his Senior Rater's Profile.
(At one point in time Baumholder had two Field Artillery Captains as OIC's of the Golf Course. While in command of two separate Batteries they sent rounds out of safety. One Battery damn near killed a group of Friendlies on the 100M long Range 4 and the other Battery decided to blast a German farmer's field off post. Whoops...)
That's bad but not nearly as bad as the Marine 1st LT who decided to do a fire mission on a small herd of elk crossing the range @ Ft Sill with their 155mm cannon. I worked with the OIC's wife at a local hospital at the time. That poor 1st Lt didn't even have time to stop at the golf course on his way out the door. ;)
bob
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/05/17/chelsea-manning-freed-from-kansas-military-prison.html
Well the special little snowflake is now a "free" it. The US Army released it at 2 am this morning.
An Army spokeswoman, Lt. Col. Jennifer Johnson, said Manning will be on "excess leave" while her court-martial conviction is under appellate review.
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An Army spokeswoman, Lt. Col. Jennifer Johnson, said Manning will be on "excess leave" while her court-martial conviction is under appellate review.
Something is rotten in Denmark, as though we didn't already know that. The last time I checked you could only carry over 60 days of leave in the military. So does this mean he has to report for duty somewhere after 60 days and why would he accrue leave while in custody? I would figure in prison he forfeited all pay, allowances and privileges including leave accrual. If, and that is a big if, he wins his appeal then he *may* get some of that leave back but I would only give him up to 60 days.
bob
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Something is rotten in Denmark, as though we didn't already know that. The last time I checked you could only carry over 60 days of leave in the military. So does this mean he has to report for duty somewhere after 60 days and why would he accrue leave while in custody? I would figure in prison he forfeited all pay, allowances and privileges including leave accrual. If, and that is a big if, he wins his appeal then he *may* get some of that leave back but I would only give him up to 60 days.
bob
Interesting choice of words since like you said, shouldn't have any leave unless it was from before the shitbird was confined. But then again IMHO that should've been forfeited upon conviction.
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Excess Leave is granted by the commander when they don't want the service member to show up, but they haven't figured out how, or if, they will successfully kick them out. It's uncharged leave.
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Excess Leave is granted by the commander when they don't want the service member to show up, but they haven't figured out how, or if, they will successfully kick them out. It's uncharged leave.
Well I do believe a conviction and dishonorable discharge has already done that. The appeal process should've already ran its course so you wouldn't have to give shitbirds like this anything else.
I guess now the only hope for justice is that the snowflake winds up with buyer's remorse after having its manhood removed.
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Well I do believe a conviction and dishonorable discharge has already done that. The appeal process should've already ran its course so you wouldn't have to give shitbirds like this anything else.
I guess now the only hope for justice is that the snowflake winds up with buyer's remorse after having its manhood removed.
I don't believe he's been discharged yet. He would have still been enlisted for the whole confinement and the Army's not going to do anything until the appeal is finalized. So he's still an Active Duty soldier. Hence the leave.
How long, do you suppose, before he runs afoul of the UCMJ again?
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I don't believe he's been discharged yet. He would have still been enlisted for the whole confinement and the Army's not going to do anything until the appeal is finalized. So he's still an Active Duty soldier. Hence the leave.
How long, do you suppose, before he runs afoul of the UCMJ again?
IT will probably have their own private handler just as Bergdahl does.
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The Army said that while Manning is being assigned to Oklahoma's Fort Sill, she doesn't need to report for duty there, meaning she has discretion about where she lives.
Too bad, I thought we had a couple of people here from that area, they could help him get settled and such.
bob
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Too bad, I thought we had a couple of people here from that area, they could help him get settled and such.
bob
That would make sense to assign it their, being the closest active duty Army base to its home of record. If on "leave" as long as the Army has a way to reach a Soldier and they don't plan on going to restricted countries, they aren't obligated to stay on the assigned base.
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Hmmm ...
"Because of the nature of her circumstances and the experience of confinement, she is very committed to living her life as free from the government as possible and taking care of her own health benefits and financial needs, separate and apart from the continued benefits available to her," attorney Chase Strangio said.
Considering that IT is basically unfit for anything and essentially unemployable, I would like to know how she IT is going to take care of her ITs own health benefits and financial needs. Unless ITs parents are independently wealthy, I suspect this means that IT will just mooch off the liberal bed-wetters rather than mooching off the government.
Which is fine by me. They basically created IT, so they should support IT.
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Considering that IT is basically unfit for anything and essentially unemployable,
Ah, so a life coach. Probably even write a book about life coaching.
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Hmmm ...
Considering that IT is basically unfit for anything and essentially unemployable, I would like to know how she IT is going to take care of her ITs own health benefits and financial needs. Unless ITs parents are independently wealthy, I suspect this means that IT will just mooch off the liberal bed-wetters rather than mooching off the government.
Which is fine by me. They basically created IT, so they should support IT.
You really seem to dislike Information Technology... =D
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Dude why would you disgrace the uniform like that?
I know you are an officer and don't know any better but still. :-*
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Unfortunately, I clicked on the Twitchy link with Manning's actual photo. That was shudder-inducing. (Even more than this one, if possible!)
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Unfortunately, I clicked on the Twitchy link with Manning's actual photo. That was shudder-inducing. (Even more than this one, if possible!)
I did the same, started looking for eye bleach.
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Dude why would you disgrace the uniform like that?
I know you are an officer and don't know any better but still. :-*
At least I didn't post that more recent pic of Manning. You want to talk about disgracing the uniform.....
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/05/15/chelsea-manning-to-remain-in-army-receive-health-care-benefits-after-prison-release.html
So this special little snowflake is getting out of the DB this week but is going to remain on active duty, w/ no pay but w/ health benefits. Most likely going to have its manhood removed.
Be curious as to where it will be stationed and what duties it will be expected to carry out while waiting to be officially released. I would say cutting grass with a pair of scissors, one blade at a time would be nice, or painting rocks.
I see some "wall to wall " Counseling in he's future, if he hangs out around a military post.
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I see some "wall to wall " Counseling in he's future, if he hangs out around a military post.
Yep.
I'd love to see that thing hazed out of the service. All past wrongs aside, why the hell did they let him back in? They didn't do the freak any favors, and it's a disgrace to the uniform.
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I see some "wall to wall " Counseling in he's future, if he hangs out around a military post.
It warms my cold black heart to see the use of that term is still around. Depending on which command I was at it could have also been "counseling in the conex" or "fan room counseling". :) ;)
bob
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I'd love to see that thing hazed out of the service. All past wrongs aside, why the hell did they let him back in? They didn't do the freak any favors, and it's a disgrace to the uniform.
What do you mean, "let him back in"? He(she/it) was never out.