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Lennyjoe

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Unbelievable! Congress gives in to illegals!
« on: April 11, 2006, 10:02:42 PM »
Yep, minority rules.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,191410,00.html

WASHINGTON  The two top Republicans in Congress, confronted with internal party divisions as well as large public demonstrations, said Tuesday they intend to pass immigration legislation that does not subject illegal aliens to prosecution as felons.

A written statement by House Speaker Dennis Hastert of Illinois and Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee, did not say whether they would seek legislation subjecting illegal immigrants to misdemeanor prosecution or possibly a civil penalty such as a fine.

"It remains our intent to produce a strong border security bill that will not make unlawful presence in the United States a felony," the two men said. An estimated 11 million men, women and children are in the United States illegally.

The Republican-controlled House passed legislation late last year that is generally limited to border security measures. It makes illegal immigrants subject to felony prosecution.

Senate efforts to write a broader bill  covering border security, a guest worker program and a path to citizenship for many of the 11 million in the country illegally  are gridlocked with lawmakers on a two-week vacation.

Frist has said he intends to bring the issue back to the Senate floor, although he stopped short of a flat commitment and the prospects for passage of an election-year immigration bill are uncertain.

The late-afternoon statement by the top GOP leaders in both houses came after days of large street demonstrations by protesters opposed to criminal penalties for illegal immigrants.

Additionally, in a Washington Post-ABC News poll published during the day, only 20 percent of those questioned said they favored declaring illegal immigrants to be felons and barring them from work. More than 60 percent indicated support for the general approach envisioned in the leading Senate proposal. It includes a requirement that illegal immigrants be required to pay a fine and back taxes as part of a process of qualifying for eventual citizenship.

Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D- Mass., dismissed the proposal by the GOP leadership, saying: "Actions speak louder than words, and there's no running away from the fact that the Republican House passed a bill, and Senator Frist offered one, that criminalizes immigrants."

"This debate shouldn't be about making criminals out of hardworking families ... but rather about strengthening our national security and enacting a law that reflects our best values and our humanity," Kennedy said.

The question of a penalty has dogged the debate for months and been the subject of intense political maneuvering.

GOP aides pointed out that Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, had tried during debate on the House floor to reduce the penalty to a misdemeanor.

The attempt failed on a vote of 257-164, with 65 Republicans and 191 Democrats opposed. Many of the Democrats, including members of the Hispanic Congressional Caucus, indicated at the time they favored no criminal penalties, and opposed the suggested change.

In their statement, Hastert and Frist said the Democrats who did so had demonstrated a "lack of compassion." In addition, they renewed the charge that Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid is seeking to "block action on immigration legislation."

Reid has denied the charges.

While they leveled their accusations at Reid, the GOP leadership has been struggling with internal divisions.

Several House Republican conservatives have vociferously denounce Senate proposals as amnesty for lawbreakers.

And while Frist indicated support last week for the leading Senate proposal, he was the only member of the GOP leadership to do so. Two other members of the group, Sens. Jon Kyl of Arizona and Kay Bailey Hutchison of Texas, voiced their opposition. Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania opposes the measure, according to a spokesman.

Sen. Elizabeth Dole of North Carolina, who heads the party's senatorial campaign committee, declined this week through an aide to take a position on the bill.

A spokesman for Sen. Mitch McConnell, the second-ranking Republican, sidestepped a question by saying the Kentucky lawmaker favors a comprehensive approach.

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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2006, 02:21:37 AM »
You think there are a bunch of folks streaming across the border now???  Just wait until every Mexican's grandmother gets wind of this--the whole damn country will be here shortly after.

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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2006, 02:23:23 AM »
Might as well come, they will be no penalty if the come illegally.

Congress wants a way out, not a solution.
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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2006, 02:58:06 AM »
New Bumper Sticker:  "I'm Illegal, and I vote!":D
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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2006, 03:12:36 AM »
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It remains our intent to produce a strong border security bill that will not make unlawful presence in the United States a felony
Is it just me or did he say we're going to pass a law that can't be enforced? Talk about symbolic gestures! rolleyes

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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2006, 03:18:08 AM »
BIG difference between "can't be enforced" and "won't be enforced.":D
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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2006, 03:46:34 AM »
I guess someone finally pointed out  that felons can't vote.
That was the only aspect of the House Bill which made any sense to me. Can you imagine what will happen to this country when 50-60 million former illegals start voting?
Read last night (unsubstantiated) that V.Fox is urging all Mexicans to get over the border ASAP to qualify for the amnesty and to expect 11 million more in the next 2 MONTHS!

El T, you are correct; it matters not what total package gets passed, the only thing that will be enforced is the amnesty.

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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2006, 06:23:46 AM »
We are so screwed.

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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2006, 10:52:17 AM »
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A written statement by House Speaker Dennis Hastert of Illinois and Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee, did not say whether they would seek legislation subjecting illegal immigrants to misdemeanor prosecution or possibly a civil penalty such as a fine.
I thought it was already a misdemeanor to enter this country illegally the first time, and a felony if you enter illegally again.  If it's not, then how is illegal entry, well, "illegal"?

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« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2006, 01:06:45 PM »
I predict the Republicans will lose big this November. I can assure you if they do, I won't waste tears over them.
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« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2006, 03:16:54 PM »
All we have to do is pass a law requiring companies to pay the same wages to illeagals.

Duh.