Post by: Monkeyleg on February 14, 2007, 01:41:00 PM
My weight has stayed in the 175 to 180 range for probably 20 years or more.
Something changed in the last year, probably because I'm now spending more time at the keyboard than I am doing work that involves exercise.
Anyway, I'm now up to almost 190. None of my pants fit. I can actually feel my gut.
This is all new and weird to me.
Will going back to basic sit-ups be enough, or is there another exercise that's more efficient in terms of time. (I really should get into whole-body exercises, but that's for another thread).
Any advice much appreciated.
Post by: Iain on February 14, 2007, 01:46:04 PM
Post by: Ron on February 14, 2007, 01:53:20 PM
Exercise and restricting your diet.
Exercising your abs will firm them up but will not make you lose your gut. You cannot "spot train" your body for weight reduction.
I suggest smaller balanced meals three times a day and a daily walking regimen. Add bicycle riding and hiking to the mix for fun.
Some weight lifting under the supervision of someone who knows what they are doing will increase muscle mass and you will burn more calories from the increase in muscle mass.
Just my 2 cents.
Post by: Nightfall on February 14, 2007, 01:57:46 PM
Post by: Sindawe on February 14, 2007, 02:00:35 PM
The only way to lose that weight is cut the intake of calories and/or increase the burn rate. Some form of aerobic exercise is best, such as a brisk 20-30 min walk 3 times a week or more. Determine your target heart rate here: http://exercise.about.com/cs/fitnesstools/l/bl_THR.htm and stay in that range when you exercise. If you have a health club available, using a stationary bike or a Nordic track type device is great, though a stair stepper will also work.
Change your eating habits as well. Take the calories you do consume and divy them up 'tween 6 or so meals a day, eating every 2.5-3 hours. Dump the junk food except for rare occasions, eat fresh fruits, veggies, lean meats and complex carbs.
Post by: Matthew Carberry on February 14, 2007, 02:04:19 PM
You know, the advances in adult stem cell research may not help with the weight per se, but they could turn that ugly gut into a pair of beautiful new breasts.
Post by: Brad Johnson on February 14, 2007, 02:08:22 PM
The easiest way to get where you are going is being mindful of your overall caloric intake and to get regular, sustained exercise. If your lifestyle is relatively sedentary then 2000 cal a day is probably a good start. 2000 calories is more than you think if you are eating right. To put it in perspective, 2000 calories is the equivalent of eleven 4 oz servings of broiled or baked chicken, roughly 25 lbs of mixed veggies, or two and a half large tubs of cottage cheese. Start tanking up on cheeseburgers, pizza, or Cokes, though, and it ain't much.
For exercise go for sustained activity rather than specific muscle toning. The situps will tone your abs but really don't do much for upping your metabolism to help burn the excess fat. Don't get me wrong, it sure can't hurt to do them and you enjoy it, by all means get going! It's just that there are better exercises suited to your goals. 3 miles on a treadmill at a 3% gradient is around 360 calories. And that's at a modest 3.5 mph (a brisk walk). Do that every day and in only ten days you've burned the equivalent of a pound of fat without doing anything except walking. I do mine every night while I'm watching TV. I'm going to be sitting there in front of the tube anyway, might as well make better use of the time!
With only a slight change in dietary habits and a modest, regular exercise regimen, you should be able to drop 10-12 lbs in about 2 months. And you'll have done it in a way that's more lifestyle change than on/off dieting.
Brad
Post by: mtnbkr on February 14, 2007, 02:22:05 PM
Chris
Post by: DJJ on February 14, 2007, 03:19:11 PM
Post by: mtnbkr on February 14, 2007, 03:23:29 PM
Also, try to substitute "good foods" for "bad". Instead of the 12oz steak and baked 'tater, get the 6oz and eat all the steamed veggies you want.
Chris
Post by: Cromlech on February 14, 2007, 03:32:23 PM
Let's say that you need 2500 calories per day (the rough guideline for a 5'11" 180lb 21 year old male like myself). Limit yourself to 2000 calories per day, and in one week, you can burn off 1lb of fat, give or take. It does vary with the individual, and I am no doctor or nutrionist, so my word is hardly Gospel, but you get the idea.
That's the way to do it without exercise. With exercise, it's better.
If you work out A LOT, you can eat even more than you are now.
EDIT: Here is something to back that up - http://walking.about.com/cs/calories/l/blcalcalc.htm
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Calories Per Day Calculator
How many calories per day your body burns
This adult daily calories calculator gives an approximation of your basal metabolic rate - the number of calories per day your body burns.
If your goal is to lose weight by burning off excess body fat, aim to eat 500 fewer calories per day than your daily caloric needs, and maintain or increase your exercise activity. Do not go below 1200 calories per day unless you are on a medically supervised weight loss program or after consultation with your doctor.
How many calories per day your body burns
This adult daily calories calculator gives an approximation of your basal metabolic rate - the number of calories per day your body burns.
If your goal is to lose weight by burning off excess body fat, aim to eat 500 fewer calories per day than your daily caloric needs, and maintain or increase your exercise activity. Do not go below 1200 calories per day unless you are on a medically supervised weight loss program or after consultation with your doctor.
Post by: mtnbkr on February 14, 2007, 03:34:09 PM
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If you work out A LOT, you can eat even more than you are now.
Not always. I can't lose weight by exercise alone, but I drop pounds rapidly by restricting calories. Unfortunately, the former is easier for me. 
Chris
Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on February 14, 2007, 03:34:44 PM
Post by: Cromlech on February 14, 2007, 03:36:23 PM
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If you work out A LOT, you can eat even more than you are now.
Not always. I can't lose weight by exercise alone, but I drop pounds rapidly by restricting calories. Unfortunately, the former is easier for me. Chris
Well not everyone is going to get the same results (your body type determines a lot) and it also depends on what exercise you do.
Weights will put on muscle, which is heavier than fat, for example.
Post by: CAnnoneer on February 14, 2007, 04:22:34 PM
Look up what the recommended caloric intake is for your physique and make sure you eat at least 80% of that. Now make also sure you burn more than that by exercise. Combine different aerobics with at least some weight-lifting (to keep all your muscles at good tone and help against bone loss). Alternate weights days with rest days to allow muscle and tendon recovery. Try to "hit" all parts of the body, not just what you consider "problem area". If you use elliptical machines, try to keep mostly in the "fat burn" regime, since "cardio" regime is likely to burn muscle, especially if you are tired.
In terms of diet, try to eat 50% veggie/fruit + 25% protein + 25% carb. Generally foods that have protein also have enough fats for the daily needs. Try to completely cut out "easy carbs", e.g. refined sugar, corn syrup, sugary juices, particularly sweet fruits etc., and concentrate on "slower-release" carbs e.g. yams, whole grains. That also prevents insulin spikes and helps avoid pre-diabetes. The more processed and refined the food, the more likely it is bad for you. Stay away from saturated fats and trans-fats.
Check out are Thurmond's nutritional system, Gunnar Peterson's core gymnastics, "Ultrametabolism" for toxicity/inflamation/synthetics explanations, and Dr Phil's books (yeah, I know) for the psychological underpinnings of obesity.
Post by: Vodka7 on February 14, 2007, 05:58:07 PM
Ross has a huge following in the amateur MMA and boxing circles (he trains pro boxers professionally), so a lot of his stuff is tailored to high intensity workouts, but Never Gymless would be a great place to start. Sure, you may not be doing triple-clap pushups or clap pullups like Ross does, but anyone can do the beginner regime from Never Gymless. (The basic idea is to mix old fashioned bodyweight exercises in with short distance running. It's more of a cardio building plan than a weight loss plan, but it shows a lot of exercises you can use to mix it up so you don't get bored and/or plateau with just situps.)
He's also got a pretty laid back approach to food--although he gets a little preachy on the benefits of organically grown grass fed etc etc meat, the basic message is "quit eating all that crap and find healthier alternatives you can still enjoy." Also, like a lot of MMA/boxing trainers, he recommends having a "cheat day." You eat like a saint for six days out of the week, and on the seventh, go ahead and eat half a pizza by yourself if that makes you happy. It's focused towards making changes that you feel comfortable sticking with, and rewarding you for the hard work you've been doing during the week.
I mean, I still smoke and drink, so it's not like the book turned me into a saint, but it did get me to eventually replace almost all the white flour products in my life with whole wheat alternatives (whole wheat pasta is still an abomination IMO), and I can't remember the last time I had chicken that wasn't skinless and grilled. And when I do eat fast food, I get a McChicken or two with ketchup instead of mayo and a diet coke instead of the Big Mac with fries meal. (After Supersize Me a dietician did a survey of all the then-current fast food lineups and the McChicken was the least-bad for you for the serving size. And you can't beat that it's still on the dollar menu!)
So, make some slow changes to your diet would be my advice. Don't go around radically removing 80% of what you eat. Replace what you can, and try halving the servings on stuff you can't live without. If you're hungry, grab a yogurt or some tuna and whole wheat crackers (did someone say Triscuits?)
Post by: Lee on February 14, 2007, 05:58:42 PM
Post by: Monkeyleg on February 14, 2007, 06:02:28 PM
Here's an even weirder part of this story: last spring I went to the doctor, and I weighed in at 173. That really concerned me, as my weight has always been in the 175 to 180 range.
On one of my last doctor visits, he pointed out to me that I had lumps on my thyroid. Don't know if that affects anything or not.
I've had the same diet regimen for over 25 years: no breakfast, usually no lunch, and then 1.5 to 2 pounds of food for dinner at around 8 pm.
I guess this getting old stuff changes everything.
Post by: Cromlech on February 15, 2007, 12:49:14 AM
Post by: MechAg94 on February 15, 2007, 04:57:10 AM
Post by: Chris on February 15, 2007, 05:20:03 AM
Post by: cordex on February 15, 2007, 05:47:18 AM
If you're looking to get some more exercise, come on by and shovel my driveway. Can't say what it'll do for your gut, but it'll tighten up your back like nothing else.
I won't even charge a gym fee.
Post by: Nightfall on February 15, 2007, 08:23:46 AM
On one of my last doctor visits, he pointed out to me that I had lumps on my thyroid. Don't know if that affects anything or not.
I've got a hyperactive thyroid, which is what makes my metabolism so fast and keeps me down in the 130's unless I eat a lot and workout almost everyday. Conversely, if your thyroid is being less active, all of a sudden you can be putting on pounds while eatin' the same stuff. Your doctor can take some blood and check to see if that's the case, if you're worried.
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 15, 2007, 08:41:21 AM
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Post by: Matthew Carberry on February 15, 2007, 09:30:42 AM
You might try smoking cigarettes. Ever smoked before?
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Oooh, keeps you thin AND looking sophisticated.
Post by: Monkeyleg on February 15, 2007, 12:41:02 PM
Nightfall, I'm going to do as you suggest. This weight gain was pretty sudden.
As for shovelling snow, that seems to be all I'm doing lately.
When my wife or I cook, the meals are pretty healthy. It's when I hit the frozen foods that I suspect the calories are climbing. Maybe I'll do something radical, like read the labels.
Post by: Lee on February 15, 2007, 01:45:33 PM
That really might be a big part of the problem. Your metabolism used to be higher and it kept up with that super load of calories in the evening. Not anymore buddy, your metabolism will increase (and your blood glucose levels will stabilize) if you spread your caloric intake over the whole day - you'll burn more calories and not convett the surplus glucose to fat.
Post by: Dave Markowitz on February 16, 2007, 07:56:00 AM
Post by: AJ Dual on February 16, 2007, 04:07:16 PM
TMaybe I'll do something radical, like read the labels.
That's not a bad place to start.
If you put a gun to my head, and said that I had to choose between gorging on a pound of bacon and a pound of sugar, I'd take the bacon.
Cane sugar, high-fructose corn syrup, bleached white flour and potatoes are probably killing far more Americans than trans-fats, or even just "regular fat" ever will.
Your insulin response also has a lot to do with triglycerides and the HDL/LDL cholesterol ratio too.
I'm not saying to go full-bore Atkins, especially the "induction phase" which people abuse to get the fastest results and causes that diet plan's bad rap, but refined carbohydrates are bad ju ju.
And the whole "low fat" craze makes it worse, because to replace the fat in these foods, the manufacturers often just add more corn syrup or starches to try and replace the fullness and texture of the missing fat.
Even when you look at "healthy" foods, like whole wheat or whole grain bread, reading the label is amazing, most of them have high fructose corn syrup as the second ingredient.
Also, the other posters are right on the money about exercise not doing much to get rid of one's gut. I just learned this myself, but there's an organ called the omentum in one's abdomen. It's a fatty organ that sits around the intestines, under the stomach muscles. It grows as the body deposits fat, and also secretes hormones involved in digestion/metabolisim, and the more you eat, the more it grows. And since it's under the muscles, no amount of sit-ups will shrink it.
Post by: Waitone on February 16, 2007, 04:11:17 PM
--Develop more muscles which burn more calories than fat. Biggest muscles in the body are below the belt. Develop butt and leg muscles. In other words walk a few miles a day. It's good for the head and metabolism. When you walk, hump it. Don't waste your time strolling.
Decrease caloric intake
--Swear off carbohydrates which is code for cold cereal (by and large) and junk foods.
--Swear off dairy fat of all kinds. No cheese or yogurt
--Unfortunately beer heavy on carbs.
Drink lots of water
Fiber is your friend
Throw out the scales.
--Judge you success by how much better you feel and how far/fast you can walk. Your cloths will get bigger without much effort. When you begin building muscle mass your weight will actually increase. Then when your higher metabolism kicks in you'll begin burning fat and will then lose weight.