Ohio inching closer to Constitutional Carry

[Andiron]

https://fox8.com/news/ohio-house-closer-to-passing-bill-getting-rid-of-concealed-carry-permits/

I'm cautiously optimistic this time.  Our governor is the worst flavor of RINO,  but I'd wager he signs this to save his ass during reelection.  Just a gut feeling.

[T.O.M.]

Agreed.  He's going to sign it to go after the conservative end of the Rs, and hope the rest of his term will get enough D votes to carry the election.

[JN01]

https://fox8.com/news/ohio-house-closer-to-passing-bill-getting-rid-of-concealed-carry-permits/

I'm cautiously optimistic this time.  Our governor is the worst flavor of RINO,  but I'd wager he signs this to save his ass during reelection.  Just a gut feeling.

IF they get it passed before the election.  The Ohio Legislatures MO is to hold everything until the last week of the term (December) which would allow DeWine to veto without consequence and with no time left to override the veto.

[Lennyjoe]

House passed it and it’s on the Governors desk for signature

[Perd Hapley]

Great news.

[WLJ]

House passed it and it’s on the Governors desk for signature

Hate to be a pessimist on this but it's probably in the bathroom to be used

[JN01]

Cool. Hope DeWine signs it.  Still have people we visit in Ohio from time to time, so I would like to see the duty to notify LE provision go away.

[Perd Hapley]

According to these guys, Nebraska and Indiana may still go Con-carry this year.

https://youtu.be/6nSLKp9Nknc

Don't know why they so often fail to cite sources.

[Ron]

According to these guys, Nebraska and Indiana may still go Con-carry this year.

https://youtu.be/6nSLKp9Nknc

Don't know why they so often fail to cite sources.

The Indiana law for constitutional carry was gutted.
https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2022/02/24/constitutional-carry-in-doubt-after-indiana-committee-guts-legislation-n55822

[Perd Hapley]

The Indiana law for constitutional carry was gutted.
https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2022/02/24/constitutional-carry-in-doubt-after-indiana-committee-guts-legislation-n55822

WATCH - THE - VIDEO

Your source is a week old. That video came out today. Here is more:
https://www.whas11.com/article/news/local/indiana/constitutional-carry-bill-gets-new-life-in-senate-committee-permit-gun-license-indiana-law/531-6d239bea-325f-4bb5-8ce4-ecbe51ec7c9d

[Ron]

WATCH - THE - VIDEO

Your source is a week old. That video came out today. Here is more:
https://www.whas11.com/article/news/local/indiana/constitutional-carry-bill-gets-new-life-in-senate-committee-permit-gun-license-indiana-law/531-6d239bea-325f-4bb5-8ce4-ecbe51ec7c9d

Sweet, thanks for the link! You would think living in Indiana I would hear of these things quicker. Unfortunately NW Indiana is really a suburb of Chicago.

[Ron]

Constitutional no permit carry passed and going to Indiana governor!

 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/indiana-lawmakers-pass-bill-to-eliminate-permits-to-carry-handguns-for-hoosiers-18-and-older/ar-AAUOUVd?ocid=uxbndlbing

[Ben]

CNN is very unhappy about all you guys joining the CC club. 

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/05/us/permitless-carry-laws-advance-in-states/index.html

[Ben]

It appears that today's marching orders from the illuminati to the MSM are to negatively cover this story. It was interesting to read that an Alabama State rep who introduced their version of CC was also a deputy sheriff and was fired by his sheriff after he introduced the bill.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/597227-states-move-to-roll-back-firearm-permits-over-police

[MechAg94]

It appears that today's marching orders from the illuminati to the MSM are to negatively cover this story. It was interesting to read that an Alabama State rep who introduced their version of CC was also a deputy sheriff and was fired by his sheriff after he introduced the bill.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/597227-states-move-to-roll-back-firearm-permits-over-police

From that article:

“It is going to promote lawlessness. I think that there will be people who carry weapons concealed for the purpose of being vigilantes. I think that it is not very well thought out for very high populated counties such as Hamilton County,” Ohio's Hamilton County Sheriff Charmaine McGuffey said in an interview. “To vote for people to be able to concealed carry without a license, without any training, without any documentation, it makes it exponentially harder for law enforcement to prevent gun crimes.”

I get the impression that he wants restrictions to prevent normal law abiding citizens from doing the same thing the criminals are already doing.  I am sure his idea of a "vigilante" is anyone who defends themselves. 

“There are communities across the country that are already really struggling with the crisis of gun violence,” said Shannon Watts, founder of Moms Demand Action, a gun safety organization. “Law enforcement are saying lawmakers are just ignoring their concerns.”

Yes, and instead of addressing that "gun violence" by going after the hard core criminals, you are worrying about what the non-criminals are doing. 

“Poor decisionmaking happens, and unfortunately, if you’re carrying a weapon and you make a poor decision in a very elevated and high stress situation, the repercussions and ramifications of that are tremendous,” McGuffey said. “People in the general public don’t understand generally how poorly most people shoot.”

Read this as if he is talking about his own cops and it amounts to the same thing.

[230RN]

Welll said, MechAg94 !

[RoadKingLarry]

I get the impression that he wants restrictions to prevent normal law abiding citizens from doing the same thing the criminals are already doing.  I am sure his idea of a "vigilante" is anyone who defends themselves.

In the mind of the left, a dead rape victim is morally superior to the survivor that defended herself with lethal force.

[Perd Hapley]

Congratulations, Alabama

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/alabama-gov-ivey-signs-constitutional-carry-bill-repeals-permit-carry-concealed-pistol

[Ben]

Great news for them. In the meantime, in Nebraska:

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/03/10/state-sen-megan-hunt-isnt-anti-second-amendment-but-its-authors-were-misogynistic-slave-owners/

Senator Megan Hunt 😷
@NebraskaMegan
Owning a gun isn’t a "God-given right." It’s a slave-owning, misogynistic founding father-given right.

I’m not against 2a, but be real - the Constitution was written by people!

Today I’m filibustering a bill that would allow concealed carry without training or a permit. #NELeg

[MechAg94]

From that twitchy link.

(1) The right to self-defense is natural and inalienable. The right to keep and bear arms is a necessary and logical outflow of this, giving "teeth" to the underlying natural right, which on its own is a dead letter.

(2) This is self-evident *within her argument itself.* Slave owners relentlessly sought to DISARM slaves, because armed slaves could better defend their natural rights. Armed slaves would mean the effective end of slavery.

(2)(a) The problem wasn't that slave owners had a right to arms - the recognition of this right predates the African slave trade. The problem was the legal framework that stripped some people of this right so that they could be better oppressed.

(3) The misogyny part is weird. Women have never been exempt from the 2A right. It is, in fact, of greater importance for us, as we generally find ourselves smaller and physically weaker than our attackers. Without arms, our natural right to self-defense is comparatively weaker.

To summarize:

The right to keep and bear arms predates the Founding. It is protected by the Constitution, but not created by it. Its restriction or selective application benefits racists, misogynists, and tyrants. Its full protection benefits the weak, disfavored, and oppressed.

[T.O.M.]

Rumor is Dewine may veto the bill, to pander to Dem voters.  Apparently he believes that he can carry enough R voters that he can afford to piss of the gun people here if he gets enough Dem votes in return.

[Perd Hapley]

From that twitchy link.

Great stuff!

[Lennyjoe]

DeWine signed it.

Ohio Governor DeWine Signs BFA-Supported Permitless Carry Bill

At approximately 4:50 p.m. on Monday, March 14, 2022, Gov. Mike DeWine signed Senate Bill 215, which will make it legal to carry a concealed handgun without a license in Ohio 91 days after signing.

[Ben]

So are you Ohio guys breaking out the rubber boots so that all the blood running in the streets doesn't soak your socks? 

Welcome to the club though!

[WLJ]