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Re: Ohio inching closer to Constitutional Carry
« Reply #50 on: March 16, 2022, 08:57:56 AM »
And probably rent-seeking from whomever benefits from permit fees.

That was one of the reasons some cited here why they kept dragging their feet on CC
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Re: Ohio inching closer to Constitutional Carry
« Reply #51 on: March 16, 2022, 09:04:55 AM »
And probably rent-seeking from whomever benefits from permit fees.

I used to have an FL non-resident, and yeah, I recall they make (or were making) a boatload of dough on those.
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Re: Ohio inching closer to Constitutional Carry
« Reply #52 on: March 16, 2022, 09:10:35 AM »
Does this apply only for Ohio residents, or would it apply to me if I travel there?

I'm pretty sure Idaho has constitutional carry, but only for Idaho citizens.
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Re: Ohio inching closer to Constitutional Carry
« Reply #53 on: March 16, 2022, 09:17:35 AM »
Does this apply only for Ohio residents, or would it apply to me if I travel there?

I'm pretty sure Idaho has constitutional carry, but only for Idaho citizens.

Any US citizen over 18 can carry in Iderho.

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State law also allows any resident of Idaho or a current member of the armed forces of the United States to carry a concealed handgun without a license to carry, provided the person is over 18 years old and not disqualified from being issued a license to carry concealed weapons under state law. An amendment to state law that takes effect on July 1, 2020 changes the reference in the above law from “a resident of Idaho” to “any citizen of the United States.” 

https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-gun-laws/idaho/

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Re: Ohio inching closer to Constitutional Carry
« Reply #54 on: March 16, 2022, 09:34:28 AM »
But what about Ohio?
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Re: Ohio inching closer to Constitutional Carry
« Reply #55 on: March 16, 2022, 10:07:53 AM »
I don’t see anything that says citizen of the state of Ohio in the bill text.

https://search-prod.lis.state.oh.us/solarapi/v1/general_assembly_134/bills/sb215/EN/05/sb215_05_EN?format=pdf

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Re: Ohio inching closer to Constitutional Carry
« Reply #56 on: March 16, 2022, 05:53:35 PM »
Pretty sure I read that one must have resided in the state of Ohio for a minimum of 45 days to be legal.

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Re: Ohio inching closer to Constitutional Carry
« Reply #57 on: March 16, 2022, 06:26:51 PM »
Rumor is that a bunch of elected Sheriff's a d police chiefs are indicating an intention to arrest anyone carrying without a permit for illegal CCW.  They are saying it is up to the prosecutor to determine if the person was legally possessing the firearm, and therfore legally carrying.  And they are also hoping liberal prosecutors will indict the cases a d force judges to dismiss them.  It may be a mess for a while.
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Re: Ohio inching closer to Constitutional Carry
« Reply #58 on: March 16, 2022, 06:52:10 PM »
Rumor is that a bunch of elected Sheriff's a d police chiefs are indicating an intention to arrest anyone carrying without a permit for illegal CCW.  They are saying it is up to the prosecutor to determine if the person was legally possessing the firearm, and therfore legally carrying.  And they are also hoping liberal prosecutors will indict the cases a d force judges to dismiss them.  It may be a mess for a while.

Can they get away with that under state law? It seems lawsuit worthy for the victims.
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Re: Ohio inching closer to Constitutional Carry
« Reply #59 on: March 16, 2022, 09:33:33 PM »
Can they get away with that under state law? It seems lawsuit worthy for the victims.

I haven't read the final version of the Con Carry law yet. I've heard it described as saying basically if you are legally in possession, you can legally carry.  Rumor is these anti gun cops are going to play the angle of  "Absent a permit, I don't know if they are legal.  That's  a prosecutor/court decision.  So hook em up and let the courts sort things out."  Depending on the wording of the statutes, they might be able to get away with this for a while.  Which is why I'll keep my permit (and the reciprocity with other states).
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Re: Ohio inching closer to Constitutional Carry
« Reply #60 on: March 21, 2022, 09:01:48 PM »
Indiana is now the 24th state to recognize the constitutional right to carry!

The governor actually signed the bill, but it would have become law whether he signed it or not. The only way to stop it would have been for him to veto the bill. 
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Re: Ohio inching closer to Constitutional Carry
« Reply #61 on: March 21, 2022, 11:32:55 PM »
I like what Holcombe's signature signals - that red-state politicritters who want to keep their jobs get out of the way of free carry.
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Re: Ohio inching closer to Constitutional Carry
« Reply #62 on: March 21, 2022, 11:40:54 PM »
Indiana is now the 24th state to recognize the constitutional right to carry!

The governor actually signed the bill, but it would have become law whether he signed it or not. The only way to stop it would have been for him to veto the bill.

On the down side, he did veto a bill prohibiting trannies from competing on girls teams.  His logic was that there was no evidence that it was a problem in Indiana, so there was no need for a law prohibiting it.

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Re: Ohio inching closer to Constitutional Carry
« Reply #63 on: March 22, 2022, 09:08:21 AM »
The deep state guys love their perversion.
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Re: Ohio inching closer to Constitutional Carry
« Reply #64 on: March 22, 2022, 10:50:04 AM »
https://www.buckeyefirearms.org/answers-common-questions-about-ohio%E2%80%99s-new-permitless-carry-law

Can non-residents carry concealed without a license?
Yes. While the rules for carrying a concealed handgun remain the same with or without a license, there will be no residency requirement when this law goes into effect. Someone who is otherwise a “qualifying” adult may carry with or without a license whether they reside in Ohio or another state.

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Re: Ohio inching closer to Constitutional Carry
« Reply #65 on: March 22, 2022, 04:44:38 PM »
According to this, North Dakota is the only free-carry state that restricts free carry to state residents.

https://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/Permitless_Carry_States.pdf

If handgunlaw.us is correct, in any free-carry state but ND, one need only be a law-abiding U.S. citizen, over 21.
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Re: Ohio inching closer to Constitutional Carry
« Reply #66 on: March 22, 2022, 04:48:35 PM »
Indiana is now the 24th state to recognize the constitutional right to carry!

The governor actually signed the bill, but it would have become law whether he signed it or not. The only way to stop it would have been for him to veto the bill.

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Re: Ohio inching closer to Constitutional Carry
« Reply #67 on: March 22, 2022, 11:04:58 PM »


Obviously, this map still has the Hoosiers all sad and blue.  =( It is the most up-to-date map of free-carry states I found on the online.

Anyway, I notice that Illinois is now almost completely surrounded by the mad deathscape of free states. Louisiana is encircled, so that a retreat across the sea is its only escape from the howling, homicidal wastes of Texas, Mississippi, etc. The east and west coasts are completely cut off now. No doubt the bi-coastal types are having to brave the honking of Canadian geese truckers, to get across the continent in slavery safety. Just kidding - they're flying over us, as they always do.
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Re: Ohio inching closer to Constitutional Carry
« Reply #68 on: March 22, 2022, 11:41:10 PM »
I'm thinking we might get one or two more but that's about it.
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Re: Ohio inching closer to Constitutional Carry
« Reply #69 on: March 23, 2022, 08:53:04 AM »
I'm thinking we might get one or two more but that's about it.

The Western half of the country is done. CO and NM will never do it, and of course the coast is a lost cause. I think there's still a chance for bordering NE. I'm still surprised at all the Southern states that have blocked it.
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Re: Ohio inching closer to Constitutional Carry
« Reply #70 on: March 23, 2022, 09:41:27 AM »
The progress in this area is mindblowing!   :cool:

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Re: Ohio inching closer to Constitutional Carry
« Reply #71 on: March 23, 2022, 09:46:25 AM »
The Western half of the country is done. CO and NM will never do it, and of course the coast is a lost cause. I think there's still a chance for bordering NE. I'm still surprised at all the Southern states that have blocked it.

The gun culture down here is full of *expletive deleted*ing idiots who believe you should be legally restricted from carrying until the government approves.

Also same idiots who say *expletive deleted*it like “my guns are registered with the police department” or “I have this but it’s not registered”. Stupid f*expletive deleted*tards are unaware that we don’t have registration laws at all.

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Re: Ohio inching closer to Constitutional Carry
« Reply #72 on: March 29, 2022, 09:50:35 PM »
Looks like Constitutional Carry is back on the menu boys

BREAKING: Florida Governor Ron DeSantis Calls Special Legislative Session That Will Include Constitutional Carry
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/breaking-florida-governor-ron-desantis-calls-special-legislative-session-that-will-include-constitutional-carry/
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Re: Ohio inching closer to Constitutional Carry
« Reply #73 on: March 29, 2022, 10:18:45 PM »
The Western half of the country is done. CO and NM will never do it, and of course the coast is a lost cause. I think there's still a chance for bordering NE. I'm still surprised at all the Southern states that have blocked it.

probably correct sir, NV is super-duper corrupt/stupid. ... better than Cali but getting worse and worse everyday.
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Re: Ohio inching closer to Constitutional Carry
« Reply #74 on: April 01, 2022, 04:18:04 PM »
Georgia Senate Passes Constitutional Carry Bill, Governor Kemp Promises to Sign It
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/georgia-senate-passes-constitutional-carry-bill-governor-kemp-promises-to-sign-it/
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