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Title: Nerd Sniping
Post by: RadioFreeSeaLab on December 14, 2007, 09:50:39 AM

http://xkcd.com/356/
Title: Re: Nerd Sniping
Post by: grampster on December 14, 2007, 09:57:28 AM
I always wondered if there would be a market for those of us who's only artistic talent was the ability to draw stick people and a face that every time I'd draw it, it looked like Fester Bestertester.

My life has new meaning, dasmi.  Thank you, thank you, thank you.....

(That cartoon, by the way, was really funny.)
Title: Re: Nerd Sniping
Post by: Werewolf on December 14, 2007, 10:14:05 AM
I'm my company's Sales Analyst.

Showed that cartoon to my Boss.

He got this strange look on his face. Started stroking his chin while mumbling - hmmmmmm...

Started drawing something on a clean white piece of paper, glanced up at me, chuckled and waved me out of his office.

Should I be worried?Huh??
Title: Re: Nerd Sniping
Post by: RadioFreeSeaLab on December 14, 2007, 10:15:43 AM
Yes.  Watch for trucks.
Title: Re: Nerd Sniping
Post by: HankB on December 14, 2007, 10:18:47 AM
In the same vein . . .
Title: Re: Nerd Sniping
Post by: Nick1911 on December 14, 2007, 10:32:29 AM
I always wondered if there would be a market for those of us who's only artistic talent was the ability to draw stick people and a face that every time I'd draw it, it looked like Fester Bestertester.

My life has new meaning, dasmi.  Thank you, thank you, thank you.....

Apparently, there is if the content is funny and not the same old crap all over again.  (See Garfield et al)

 smiley

I saw the comic when it came out.  Equally entertaining is the document that the problem came from - the GLAT.
Title: Re: Nerd Sniping
Post by: 280plus on December 14, 2007, 11:35:13 AM
Three ohms...
Title: Re: Nerd Sniping
Post by: RadioFreeSeaLab on December 14, 2007, 11:36:46 AM
FOOOOMMM!!
Title: Re: Nerd Sniping
Post by: Nick1911 on December 14, 2007, 11:38:06 AM
Three ohms...

more like 0.2 ohms

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/news/2004-10-13/google/
Title: Re: Nerd Sniping
Post by: 280plus on December 14, 2007, 11:53:12 AM
I was close...

Damn, I'm sorry I looked at that link, I think smoke came out of my brain...  cheesy
Title: Re: Nerd Sniping
Post by: Phantom Warrior on December 14, 2007, 12:15:16 PM
I saw that and yes, I would be susceptible to that.  Some one should me the "Sodorku" Foxtrot comic in Kuwait and I promptly sat down and did it...

(Think a Soduku w/ clues like "FF-F8", "sin(pi/2), and "3 * integral(x^2, x, 1, 2)"...)
Title: Re: Nerd Sniping
Post by: RevDisk on December 14, 2007, 09:14:08 PM


Is it sad that I saw that comic, got the question and then started pondering the differences between a theoretical grid with ideal 1 ohm resisters and a real grid of ultra high tolerance resistors from Riedon.  Almost picked up the phone to order a mess of 'em when I realized I needed to go home and play Overlord.
Title: Re: Nerd Sniping
Post by: wooderson on December 14, 2007, 09:29:31 PM
I vaguely remember my AP Physics teacher getting into some of that electrical engineering voodoo, but I'm pretty sure I was working on my design for the school literary magazine at the time...
Title: Re: Nerd Sniping
Post by: 280plus on December 14, 2007, 11:22:04 PM
" Uh, yes, I'd like to order an infinite number of 1 ohm resistors please. Could you throw in an infinite amount of wire and solder too? Just put it on my account. Thank you, have a nice day..."  laugh
Title: Re: Nerd Sniping
Post by: jeepmor on December 15, 2007, 03:04:18 AM
That's an awesome cartoon, working in semiconductors, you can easily argue that this would take a heavy toll on our engineer population. cheesy

When I worked for development, we had a saying about all the PhD engineers.  If you wanna motivate them, just tell em it can't be done.  Usually takes a week, maybe two.  You see some impressive and innovative solutions out of that kind of obsession.

Title: Re: Nerd Sniping
Post by: 280plus on December 15, 2007, 03:24:42 AM
I'm still thinking about the damn thing, and I ain't even an engineer. I'll tell you what it reminds me of though. Those newish electric grid mats you put under the tile in your bathroom. Same principal if you ask me. Fortunately trucks don't go up my street very often.  cheesy
Title: Re: Nerd Sniping
Post by: LadySmith on December 15, 2007, 06:01:29 AM
It disturbs me how many of you could be "nerd sniped."

But if it ever happens, somebody please post pics.  laugh
Title: Re: Nerd Sniping
Post by: Leatherneck on December 16, 2007, 08:16:02 AM
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Three ohms...
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more like 0.2 ohms

Nope. It's an infinite grid, so the resistance is one over infinity ohms.

TC
Title: Re: Nerd Sniping
Post by: Marnoot on December 16, 2007, 08:47:20 AM
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Three ohms...
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more like 0.2 ohms

Nope. It's an infinite grid, so the resistance is one over infinity ohms.

TC

Nick 1911's link shows it to be about 0.77 ohms, after rounding Pi.
Title: Re: Nerd Sniping
Post by: DustinD on December 16, 2007, 10:35:56 AM
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Nope. It's an infinite grid, so the resistance is one over infinity ohms.
But there are not infinite (or any) one ohm paths from point A to B. The paths that you can take get progressively worse the further out you go.
Title: Re: Nerd Sniping
Post by: CAnnoneer on December 16, 2007, 03:43:56 PM
There usually is a mathematical trick to this - use the two Kirchoff's laws plus symmetry and series. Yes, generally the answer is not zero because the extra paths have progressively larger resistance, so you have to set up a series that is likely convergent.

Without spending much time figuring out the above, I bounded it to less than 1 ohm with just two iterations. Turns out I was decently close for 1min worth of work. Methinks that saves me from the truck too.
Title: Re: Nerd Sniping
Post by: 280plus on December 16, 2007, 05:21:50 PM
I would think there are an infinite number of paths from A to B, other than that, I'm a lost puppy as to how to figure out the average. I do know one other thing. Put juice to it and it will send just the right number of electrons through just the right places right away.  How cool is that?  rolleyes

 cheesy
Title: Re: Nerd Sniping
Post by: Matthew Carberry on December 16, 2007, 05:49:15 PM
I would think there are an infinite number of paths from A to B, other than that, I'm a lost puppy as to how to figure out the average. I do know one other thing. Put juice to it and it will send just the right number of electrons through just the right places right away.  How cool is that?  rolleyes

 cheesy

Are you saying electrons have intelligent design?  grin
Title: Re: Nerd Sniping
Post by: 280plus on December 17, 2007, 01:10:52 AM
YES YES!! Of COURSE they do!!  laugh
Title: Re: Nerd Sniping
Post by: Matthew Carberry on December 17, 2007, 01:14:02 AM
YES YES!! Of COURSE they do!!  laugh

Primative, anti-science savage!  rolleyes
Title: Re: Nerd Sniping
Post by: 280plus on December 17, 2007, 01:37:25 AM
Pardon me whilst I pick my knuckles up off the floor to respond to that in a like manner!
Title: Re: Nerd Sniping
Post by: Matthew Carberry on December 17, 2007, 01:39:13 AM
Pardon me whilst I pick my knuckles up off the floor to respond to that in a like manner!

i don't care about the knuckle-dragging, it's the monkey diseases you leave behind...  grin
Title: Re: Nerd Sniping
Post by: 280plus on December 17, 2007, 01:50:26 AM
My bad...  laugh
Title: Re: Nerd Sniping
Post by: zahc on December 17, 2007, 05:11:03 AM
It's a very easy problem, all you need is Kirchoff's voltage law.
Title: Re: Nerd Sniping
Post by: Werewolf on December 17, 2007, 03:06:38 PM
I would think there are an infinite number of paths from A to B, other than that, I'm a lost puppy as to how to figure out the average. I do know one other thing. Put juice to it and it will send just the right number of electrons through just the right places right away.  How cool is that?  rolleyes

 cheesy
Think integral calculus. That said it's been 30 years since I had to do anything for real with calculus so I can't help out with the methodology.  sad