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Re: Training requirements and gun ownership.
« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2013, 03:29:08 PM »
Just like there are training requirements prior to being allowed to vote, speak, assemble, petition the .gov or exercise your religion.
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Re: Training requirements and gun ownership.
« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2013, 05:45:13 PM »
Just like there are training requirements prior to being allowed to vote, speak, assemble, petition the .gov or exercise your religion.

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Re: Training requirements and gun ownership.
« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2013, 08:10:38 PM »
I've got a novel idea.
Lets punish people for misdeeds they've actually done rather than pre-emptively restrain everyone because of what someone else might do.
If someone does something criminal and/or stupid and causes harm to another, punish them accordingly. Make it real, make it hurt and make it public.
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Re: Training requirements and gun ownership.
« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2013, 09:45:31 PM »
I've got a novel idea.
Lets punish people for misdeeds they've actually done rather than pre-emptively restrain everyone because of what someone else might do.
If someone does something criminal and/or stupid and causes harm to another, punish them accordingly. Make it real, make it hurt and make it public.

You just want to put young black men in prison  =D
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Re: Training requirements and gun ownership.
« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2013, 09:48:27 PM »
Didn't Adam Lanza take a state-mandated course from the NRA?

No.

He apparently took some NRA course, because the police listed an "NRA Certificate" among the things found when they executed a search warrant at the mother's home, but the kid was 20 years old and couldn't get a permit until he reached 21, so there was no mandate for him to take anything. And, unless there's been some additional info released that I missed, we don't know what NRA course it was that he took.
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Re: Training requirements and gun ownership.
« Reply #30 on: April 23, 2013, 10:01:38 PM »
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Re: Training requirements and gun ownership.
« Reply #31 on: April 23, 2013, 10:07:02 PM »
No.

He apparently took some NRA course, because the police listed an "NRA Certificate" among the things found when they executed a search warrant at the mother's home, but the kid was 20 years old and couldn't get a permit until he reached 21, so there was no mandate for him to take anything. And, unless there's been some additional info released that I missed, we don't know what NRA course it was that he took.

They did not identify whose certificate it was.  Since the firearms found obviously belonged to the mother, among other things, we can't assume it was the perp's certificate.

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Re: Training requirements and gun ownership.
« Reply #32 on: April 24, 2013, 09:46:53 AM »
No.

He apparently took some NRA course, because the police listed an "NRA Certificate" among the things found when they executed a search warrant at the mother's home, but the kid was 20 years old and couldn't get a permit until he reached 21, so there was no mandate for him to take anything. And, unless there's been some additional info released that I missed, we don't know what NRA course it was that he took.

In Michigan in the 1980's when I first got a hunting license, the state mandated some sort of gun safety course as a prerequisite to getting a hunting license under a certain age (16?, 15?), that conveniently was offered by the NRA. It was a good class. Grumpy old Walt Kowalski types just like my driver's ed instructors except with guns instead of cars.
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Re: Training requirements and gun ownership.
« Reply #33 on: April 24, 2013, 03:19:50 PM »
In Michigan in the 1980's when I first got a hunting license, the state mandated some sort of gun safety course as a prerequisite to getting a hunting license under a certain age (16?, 15?), that conveniently was offered by the NRA. It was a good class. Grumpy old Walt Kowalski types just like my driver's ed instructors except with guns instead of cars.

No hunting on the instructor's lawn, eh?
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Re: Training requirements and gun ownership.
« Reply #34 on: April 24, 2013, 03:43:31 PM »
I think a good way to handle the problem is to insist that you do not get a high school diploma without a gun safety course
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Re: Training requirements and gun ownership.
« Reply #35 on: April 24, 2013, 04:27:28 PM »
Would be nice if the cops got some of that so-called gun training, also  :P

I hear they just spent $4.2 million on the training budget out in LA  =D
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Re: Training requirements and gun ownership.
« Reply #36 on: April 24, 2013, 11:47:29 PM »
I think a good way to handle the problem is to insist that you do not get a high school diploma without a gun safety course


Well, yeah. In any reasonable country, every kid would learn how to shoot accurately and safely.
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Re: Training requirements and gun ownership.
« Reply #37 on: April 25, 2013, 05:34:50 AM »
I think a good way to handle the problem is to insist that you do not get a high school diploma without a gun safety course

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Re: Training requirements and gun ownership.
« Reply #38 on: April 25, 2013, 11:40:27 PM »
My guns are safe.  They are all wearing condoms.  :angel:
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