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Re: Presidential debate #2.
« Reply #50 on: October 17, 2012, 11:42:22 AM »
Quote from: drewtam on October 17, 2012, 07:14:10 AM
I watch the debates using xbox-live. So there is no running commentary from the fat heads, just straight up live stream.

Me too.  I liked the active polling it had, but it was certainly dominated by leftists.
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Re: Presidential debate #2.
« Reply #51 on: October 17, 2012, 11:44:14 AM »
I know it's RT, but there is a lot of truth packed into this segment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZJwcDbIkXw
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Re: Presidential debate #2.
« Reply #52 on: October 17, 2012, 11:49:18 AM »
Quote from: Blakenzy on October 17, 2012, 11:44:14 AM
I know it's RT, but there is a lot of truth packed into this segment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZJwcDbIkXw

This.  In particular, the bit about the Green Party candidate getting arrested outside the venue.

I'm not going to vote for her or Gary Johnson or Romney or Obama... but the minor party candidates might actually invigorate conversation in a direction away from perpetual war.

I watched John Stewart the other day and he was making fun of both candidates and the constant search for a new Middle East war.

Seems EVERYONE in America scorns Mordor on the Potomac for its warmongering and has zero trust towards the latest impending zOMGnukezors reports.
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Re: Presidential debate #2.
« Reply #53 on: October 17, 2012, 12:04:20 PM »
Yeah, I'm not sure where Romney is going to go with the Syria criticism. We do not need to get deeply involved in Syria.

I think the folks here have changed my mind on Afghan, either get Sherman or Sheridan style on Taliban areas or get out. I don't think we have the stomach for it, so get out.
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Re: Presidential debate #2.
« Reply #54 on: October 17, 2012, 12:13:06 PM »
I saw Candy defending her misstep about Bengazi on the Veiw.

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She says that she turned and told Mitt he was right and her reasoning for stepping in was that the debate was getting bogged down over that one word and needed to move on.

Yeah, sure, right.  :facepalm:
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Re: Presidential debate #2.
« Reply #55 on: October 17, 2012, 12:56:53 PM »
Quote from: drewtam on October 17, 2012, 12:04:20 PM
Yeah, I'm not sure where Romney is going to go with the Syria criticism. We do not need to get deeply involved in Syria.

I think the folks here have changed my mind on Afghan, either get Sherman or Sheridan style on Taliban areas or get out. I don't think we have the stomach for it, so get out.
I have gotten that way on Afghan also.  If all we are doing now is nation building, I think it is not worth the effort or toll on our miliary forces.  We need to retain the will and desire to use our military to kick butt when needed.  If we constantly bleed our military in minor or meaningless efforts, we will either not have them when we need them or not be willing to use them when we should. 


As far as the debate, I didn't watch it.  I alraedy know who I will vote for.  I want to elect a President, not a master debater.  I could care less whether he is good at witty comebacks and verbal fencing.  I think format needs to be changed a lot for it to be really useful. 
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« Reply #56 on: October 17, 2012, 12:59:55 PM »
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Re: Presidential debate #2.
« Reply #57 on: October 17, 2012, 02:38:49 PM »
Candy Crowley is proof that Miss Piggy exists, and that she ate a planet that later imploded. And now she should have 3 smaller miss piggies orbiting around her b
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Re: Presidential debate #2.
« Reply #58 on: October 17, 2012, 02:48:00 PM »
May the better liberal win.

Romney is liberal the way W. was liberal on matters like education and immigration, both of which are critical for our national future. 

But, again, a Romney victory buys us time, an opportunity to get involved and militant.
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Re: Presidential debate #2.
« Reply #59 on: October 17, 2012, 02:49:49 PM »
Quote from: AZRedhawk44 on October 17, 2012, 11:49:18 AM
This.  In particular, the bit about the Green Party candidate getting arrested outside the venue.

I'm not going to vote for her or Gary Johnson or Romney or Obama... but the minor party candidates might actually invigorate conversation in a direction away from perpetual war.

I watched John Stewart the other day and he was making fun of both candidates and the constant search for a new Middle East war.

Seems EVERYONE in America scorns Mordor on the Potomac for its warmongering and has zero trust towards the latest impending zOMGnukezors reports.

Too bad the perpetual war is most focused on destroying conservatism and libertarianism.  For the liberals we are the real enemy.
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Re: Presidential debate #2.
« Reply #60 on: October 17, 2012, 06:11:05 PM »
Quote from: longeyes on October 17, 2012, 02:48:00 PM
May the better liberal win.

Romney is liberal the way W. was liberal on matters like education and immigration, both of which are critical for our national future. 

But, again, a Romney victory buys us time, an opportunity to get involved and militant.

A Romney victory would mean that Obama would not be president for another four years.

In reality, that's ALL I need to know.
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Re: Presidential debate #2.
« Reply #61 on: October 17, 2012, 06:23:07 PM »
I thought this would happen. When Obama crashed and burned in the first debate, I figured they would start pressuring the moderators and the networks to help them out. And we've seen it twice now. It's not often that I see the future.
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Re: Presidential debate #2.
« Reply #62 on: October 17, 2012, 07:01:23 PM »
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A Romney victory would mean that Obama would not be president for another four years.

In reality, that's ALL I need to know.

I've finally conceded that that is good enough for me.

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Re: Presidential debate #2.
« Reply #63 on: October 17, 2012, 07:08:00 PM »
Quote from: longeyes on October 17, 2012, 02:48:00 PM
May the better liberal win.

Romney is liberal the way W. was liberal on matters like education and immigration, both of which are critical for our national future. 

But, again, a Romney victory buys us time, an opportunity to get involved and militant.

That is about all I hope for: more time for my kids to grow up and be better able to handle teh coming mess.
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Re: Presidential debate #2.
« Reply #64 on: October 17, 2012, 07:16:51 PM »
i love obamas claim planned parenthood does mammograms


and some of the believers are still defending it even after planned parenthood owned up
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Re: Presidential debate #2.
« Reply #65 on: October 17, 2012, 09:14:01 PM »

Friend of mine, Citizen Scribe, wrote a thing:

The "Assault Weapons" Question

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1) The bill I signed in Massachusetts was not an assault weapons ban. It was a bill that corrected some problems with existing legislation, and which had been reviewed by people on both sides of the issue. It didn't 'ban' anything new.

2) I will not entertain any specious legislation calculated to disarm law-abiding citizens based on fallacious terminology designed to frighten the public about personal arms, whose ownership and use is Constitutionally protected and enshrined in the Second Amendment.

As the failure of the 1994 ban demonstrated, restricting weapons from law-abiding citizens does nothing to reduce crime, and if the objective is to reduce crime, we need to work on the causes of crime, not the tools of self defense and family protection.

The more recent Heller and McDonald decisions make it clear that gun bans are a move in the wrong direction.

3) Further, my administration will not engage in any under-the-radar, false flag operations formulated to incite outrage among the public to facilitate further disarming America using the rationale that somehow our Second Amendment is "killing babies in Mexico."

The very term, 'Assault Weapon,' is dishonest, being a concoction of an anti-gun activist. If we are to have an honest discussion of firearms and their appropriate uses, let us at least use real words and accurate terminology.



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Re: Presidential debate #2.
« Reply #66 on: October 17, 2012, 10:37:57 PM »
Considering that Obama loses points every time he debates, how many here think that the Monday debate will actually happen? I'm sure Obama can find a dog to wag somewhere....
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Re: Presidential debate #2.
« Reply #67 on: October 17, 2012, 11:26:17 PM »
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I'm sure Obama can find a dog to wag somewhere....

Here ya go: http://www.salon.com/2012/10/16/white_house_ponders_strike_over_libya_attack/
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Re: Presidential debate #2.
« Reply #68 on: October 18, 2012, 07:53:09 AM »
Quote from: Monkeyleg on October 17, 2012, 11:26:17 PM
Here ya go: http://www.salon.com/2012/10/16/white_house_ponders_strike_over_libya_attack/

I'm betting the strike happens on November 2. Close enough to the election that it dominates the news cycle, but won't interfere with football on Sunday/Monday.
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Re: Presidential debate #2.
« Reply #69 on: October 18, 2012, 10:00:01 AM »
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I'm betting the strike happens on November 2. Close enough to the election that it dominates the news cycle, but won't interfere with football on Sunday/Monday.

Fridays are for releasing news that administrations want to bury, as nobody watches the news on weekends. If they want coverage, they'd have to hit Libya on Wednesday the 30th at the latest.
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Re: Presidential debate #2.
« Reply #70 on: October 18, 2012, 01:30:36 PM »
Quote from: Hawkmoon on October 17, 2012, 06:11:05 PM
A Romney victory would mean that Obama would not be president for another four years.

In reality, that's ALL I need to know.

As I said, he buys us time, nothing more.  No guarantees that the time we buy won't be foolishly expended.  If Romney thinks that more education spending at the Fed level and expanded immigration is going to make this a better country he is on the wrong side of reality.  That doesn't mean I won't vote for him based on the hard reality of what you mention.
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Re: Presidential debate #2.
« Reply #71 on: October 18, 2012, 01:50:12 PM »
No guarantees, but with Romney we have at least a resonable chance of getting decent SCOTUS appointments, even if its no better than a coin flip.

The chances of Obama nominating a good justice are about the same as my winning  $100,000,000 in a lottery.
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Re: Presidential debate #2.
« Reply #72 on: October 18, 2012, 01:56:59 PM »
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No guarantees, but with Romney we have at least a resonable chance of getting decent SCOTUS appointments, even if its no better than a coin flip.

The chances of Obama nominating a good justice are about the same as my winning  $100,000,000 in a lottery.

This argument smells like FAIL.
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Re: Presidential debate #2.
« Reply #73 on: October 18, 2012, 02:10:18 PM »
Quote from: AZRedhawk44 on October 18, 2012, 01:56:59 PM
This argument smells like FAIL.

Roberts, Bush, McCain, etc...
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Re: Presidential debate #2.
« Reply #74 on: October 18, 2012, 03:43:27 PM »

Yeah.

I'm tired of all these wussy, mediocre, wishy-washy, in-name-only, wanna-be "conservatives."

I wanna vote for someone who has some stinkin' convictions.

That's why I'm voting for the communist.
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