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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: K Frame on August 10, 2019, 09:17:02 AM
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ABC News is reporting that he committed suicide in his prison cell Friday night.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/jeffrey-epstein-accused-sex-trafficker-dies-suicide-officials/story?id=64881684
Interesting...
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Just saw that on Fox News.
He knew too much.
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He was on suicide watch, too.
Guess someone figured out he knew too much about them . . .
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Good. Hell has been waiting for him. It’s not going to matter, all of the evidence has been gathered.
He was a Mossad asset, which became a liability.
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I'm pissed, I wanted him to face all of his accusers and everyone involved to be brought to justice.
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The Clintons were ask for comment
Hilary: hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha inhale hahahahahahahahahahahaha inhale hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Bill: I did not have sexual relations with that...... oooooh, look at that over there, bend over girl. Who's your daddy?
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If you think about it, it is hard to believe that he was allowed to be in any situation where harm could come to him from others or himself.
We will probably never know what happened to him but we don't have to willingly believe lies.
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So everyone knows the Clintons have offed another inconvenience, but we're going to pretend we still live under the rule of law, right?
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I'm not one much for conspiracy theories, but this one I'm not so sure about. This guy ran in incredibly ratified circles with some of the most powerful people in the country... People with a LOT to both protect and hide.
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I'm not one much for conspiracy theories, but this one I'm not so sure about. This guy ran in incredibly ratified circles with some of the most powerful people in the country... People with a LOT to both protect and hide.
Exactly. Epstein may have actually killed himself without outside help, but I bet someone highly encouraged (read that as threatened) him to do it.
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I'm not one much for conspiracy theories, but this one I'm not so sure about. This guy ran in incredibly ratified circles with some of the most powerful people in the country... People with a LOT to both protect and hide.
Yeah, I've never really bought into the Clinton's offing people theories. Even in this case, I wouldn't really buy it was the Clinton's. This is however really unbelievable that someone so high profile under suicide watch was able to kill himself. There are definitely questions that need real answers.
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I'm not one much for conspiracy theories, but this one I'm not so sure about. This guy ran in incredibly ratified circles with some of the most powerful people in the country... People with a LOT to both protect and hide.
See my post above. It’s almost certain that he was running a Mossad honeypot operation. His partner,Ghislaine maxwell, was the daughter of a known Mossad operative.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maxwell
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Yeah, I've never really bought into the Clinton's offing people theories. Even in this case, I wouldn't really buy it was the Clinton's. This is however really unbelievable that someone so high profile under suicide watch was able to kill himself. There are definitely questions that need real answers.
It wasn’t the Clinton’s.
The Clintons are small, almost insignificant potatoes in this scenario, unless the Clinton foundation is actually found to have been trafficking children.
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It wasn’t the Clinton’s.
The Clintons are small, almost insignificant potatoes in this scenario, unless the Clinton foundation is actually found to have been trafficking children.
I mentioned this in another thread yesterday, but Ghislaine Maxwell looks surprisingly like a woman in a composite sketch associated with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
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I've said all along that the scumbag would never see trial. My bet is that this will now all quietly fade in to obscurity.
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I've said all along that the scumbag would never see trial. My bet is that this will now all quietly fade in to obscurity.
Maybe two days on the news cycle that he died and then off like a light switch, there won't be much of a fade here. IMO.
bob
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In my somewhat limited knowledge of correctional risk management, it was my understanding that for Federal prisoners on suicide precautions, they are generally placed in a suicide smock that cannot be torn into strips or rolled/folded into a noose; placed into a cell with no fixtures that can support a noose; and are either checked every 15 minutes or continuously video monitored. So it will be interesting to hear how Mr. Epstein pulled this off, and how many of these precautions were used.
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In my somewhat limited knowledge of correctional risk management, it was my understanding that for Federal prisoners on suicide precautions, they are generally placed in a suicide smock that cannot be torn into strips or rolled/folded into a noose; placed into a cell with no fixtures that can support a noose; and are either checked every 15 minutes or continuously video monitored. So it will be interesting to hear how Mr. Epstein pulled this off, and how many of these precautions were used.
Ex prison chaplain "Bayou Renaissance Man" comments on that, here: https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2019/08/suicide-ygtbsm.html (https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2019/08/suicide-ygtbsm.html)
So, according to news reports, Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide last night . . . while on suicide watch in prison.
Yeah. Right.
Folks, I served as a prison chaplain. I was trained in exactly the same way as a corrections officer, alongside them in the same training institution, because there would be times when I'd have to function as one. I know more than a little about suicide watches, and I've been exposed to my fair share of them. You can read a little about them in this Slate article, but there's a lot more to them than that.
Basically, on suicide watch, everything and anything that can be used for self-harm is taken away from the inmate, even his clothes. No belt. No shoelaces. No razor. Only thin, brittle plastic eating utensils are provided, that can't be sharpened enough to cut human flesh, and aren't strong enough to be used as stabbing weapons. The inmate may be issued an anti-suicide smock and an anti-suicide blanket. The list is endless. If the risk is considered serious enough, the inmate may be placed in a straitjacket, and/or may be under very frequent (every 15 minutes) visitation by a correction officer or nurse, or even permanent guard (i.e. someone in the room with him/her at all times). Suffice it to say, if the suicide watch is properly and effectively administered, it's no longer possible for the inmate to commit suicide, even if he/she wants to.
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He was on suicide watch, too.
Does that mean they sold tickets? Will it be on Youtube? Pay-per-view?
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Good. Hell has been waiting for him. It’s not going to matter, all of the evidence has been gathered.
He was a Mossad asset, which became a liability.
The evidence has been gathered, but now it will never see the light of day. Powerful people will remain protected.
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What RoadKing and the Hawk said.
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I'd be interested in knowing how many prisoners (or what percentage) have committed suicide on suicide watch. I'll bet the number is very low. This will all be swept under the rug. Nothing to see here.
:old:
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I'd be interested in knowing how many prisoners (or what percentage) have committed suicide on suicide watch. I'll bet the number is very low. This will all be swept under the rug. Nothing to see here.
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In the mental health arena we will keep people at risk of harming themselves or others on a 1:1 watch 24/7 until it is deemed they no longer need it. If they have passive thoughts of self harm then they can be under 24/7 video surveillance with prescribed physical checks. If it is so bad they have to be put in restraints then they get a 1:1 and checks every 15 minutes.
I have no idea how the penal system does this but I do know there are people on suicide watch in jail that kill themselves on occasion.
I do know that in the Blackfoot Tribal jail and in Great Falls they are stripped and placed in a Bam Bam suit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-suicide_smock).
bob
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According to this they had taken him off suicide watch.
A person familiar with the matter told The Associated Press that Epstein had been taken off suicide watch. The person wasn't authorized to discuss the matter publicly and spoke to AP on condition of anonymity. It wasn't immediately clear when he was taken off suicide watch.
Source: Epstein taken off suicide watch before death
https://www.wave3.com/2019/08/10/jeffrey-epstein-found-dead-jail-cell-reports-say/
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Inmates can't be kept on suicide watch (which is a form of restrictive housing) indefinitely without cause- it would violate their rights. :facepalm:
They must be periodically evaluated by mental health staff, and if they are deemed to be no longer a danger to themselves (i.e. they know how to answer the right questions) they are removed from suicide watch.
Suicide watches may also require having a security officer specifically assigned to just that inmate to either observe them constantly or perhaps every 15 minutes or less. If the facility is short-staffed, this can be a burden.
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I'm not surprised this happened. But I bet he was.
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I bet he was told to do this or else his family would suffer for it.
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I bet he was told to do this or else his family would suffer for it.
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That is exactly how it works.
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I bet he was told to do this or else his family would suffer for it.
If true, and I believe it is, then that means his lawyer passed the message to him. Nice people, lawyers.
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Epstein was on the other type of suicide watch. It was the type where they watch the inmate to make sure they commit suicide.
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Anyone blame Trump yet?
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:rofl:
Someone made a short-lived edit to Wikipedia’s ‘suicide watch’ page Saturday
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/08/10/someone-made-a-short-lived-edit-to-wikipedias-suicide-watch-page-saturday/
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Anyone blame Trump yet?
And right after I ask I find
The panic on the right trying to pin this on the Clintons is hilarious and unbelievably telling.
Trump is the President.
Bill Barr is his boy.
This is under their watch.
— andy lassner (@andylassner) August 10, 2019
‘Ellen’ producer thinks it’s ridiculous some are trying to ‘pin’ Epstein’s death on the Clintons when Trump & Barr are the ones in charge
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019/08/10/ellen-producer-thinks-its-ridiculous-some-are-trying-to-pin-epsteins-death-on-the-clintons-when-trump-barr-are-the-ones-in-charge/
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And more
Tom Elliott @tomselliott
Replying to @tomselliott
"Can we say this again? So this facility is run by the Department of Justice, meaning William Barr’s Department of Justice?” — Reid
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11:15 AM - Aug 10, 2019
Tom Elliott @tomselliott
Replying to @tomselliott
"Donald Trump’s name comes up whenever Jeffrey Epstein’s name comes up and other people, too. He’s no longer a threat to those people because he can’t talk about them anymore.” — Reid
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11:17 AM - Aug 10, 2019
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Maybe it was the Russians
Which means Trump too of course.
Joe Scarborough
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@JoeNBC
A guy who had information that would have destroyed rich and powerful men’s lives ends up dead in his jail cell. How predictably...Russian.
50.2K
9:41 AM - Aug 10, 2019
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/08/10/you-disgust-me-joe-scarborough-should-delete-his-vile-epstein-tweet-and-then-go-ahead-and-just-delete-his-account-too/
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Anyone blame Trump yet?
Not convinced he’s off the hook yet.
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I think I have to go with Lawdog's theory on this one.
http://thelawdogfiles.blogspot.com/2019/08/cock-up-before-conspiracy.html?m=1
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do it or else your family suffers?
did that guy have a family?, that he cared about?
anyway Steven Molyeneux
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT6UCTU9eQU
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"lets go to the video tape"
oh....wait...nevermind....nothing to see here.
it doesn't matter.
if clinton/demons/guards/inner demons/demoncrats etc did it.
the cold hard fact is that the people who claim you don't need a gun because .gov can keep you safe
can't keep a defendant monitored by guards/sworn officers/cameras, in an international, high visibility, important pedophile trafficking case safe
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do it or else your family suffers?
did that guy have a family?, that he cared about?
anyway Steven Molyeneux
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT6UCTU9eQU
Ah, Molyeneux, I enjoy his content. Thanks for posting, gonna listen to that tomorrow on my side gig.
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And right after I ask I find
‘Ellen’ producer thinks it’s ridiculous some are trying to ‘pin’ Epstein’s death on the Clintons when Trump & Barr are the ones in charge
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019/08/10/ellen-producer-thinks-its-ridiculous-some-are-trying-to-pin-epsteins-death-on-the-clintons-when-trump-barr-are-the-ones-in-charge/
Nice try, but wasn't he in a New York City municipal lockup, and charged under state law? He had already finished serving his sentence reward for his federal conviction.
Confirmed: Metropolitan Correctional Center.
So it wasn't on Trump's watch, it was on Hizzoner de Blasio's watch. And, when I last checked, de Blasio was a Democrat.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7344181/Billionaire-Jeffrey-Epstein-dies-suicide-inside-Manhattan-jail-cell.html
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And right after I ask I find
‘Ellen’ producer thinks it’s ridiculous some are trying to ‘pin’ Epstein’s death on the Clintons when Trump & Barr are the ones in charge
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019/08/10/ellen-producer-thinks-its-ridiculous-some-are-trying-to-pin-epsteins-death-on-the-clintons-when-trump-barr-are-the-ones-in-charge/
Ellen is right. The best part of all of this is that the whole country expected Epstein to die, and expected the Clintons to be involved with his death. Kek
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I think I have to go with Lawdog's theory on this one.
http://thelawdogfiles.blogspot.com/2019/08/cock-up-before-conspiracy.html?m=1
I have no doubt that he committed suicide. I think he was encouraged to “do the right thing”.
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Nice try, but wasn't he in a New York City municipal lockup, and charged under state law? He had already finished serving his sentence reward for his federal conviction.
Confirmed: Metropolitan Correctional Center.
So it wasn't on Trump's watch, it was on Hizzoner de Blasio's watch. And, when I last checked, de Blasio was a Democrat.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7344181/Billionaire-Jeffrey-Epstein-dies-suicide-inside-Manhattan-jail-cell.html
The MCC is a Federal facility.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Correctional_Center,_New_York
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Oh and I see the theory of him being pressured to do it rather than someone actually helping him do it as most plausible.
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While this repeats that he was not on suicide watch it does state that the guards are still required to check every 30 minutes and that they did not do the required checks. But it doesn't say how long of a gap there was in checking on him and of course there's also the question of WHY didn't they do the required checks. But whatever the answer to that is the fact (supposedly) they didn't will no doubt put another layer of tin foil on the matter.
Epstein hanged himself while in solitary confinement. Three law enforcement sources confirmed the suicide to ABC News. NBC reported he was not on suicide watch.
“At the MCC, two jail guards are required to make separate checks on all prisoners every 30 minutes, but that procedure was not followed overnight, according to the source. In addition, every 15 minutes guards are required to make another check on prisoners who are on suicide watch,” Reuters reports.
Reuters: Prison Guards Skipped Mandatory Checks Before Jeffrey Epstein’s Death
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/08/10/report-prison-guards-skipped-mandatory-checks-before-jeffrey-epsteins-death/
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I love all the public speculation about what really happened.
Nobody seems to believe the official account.
The fake news and lying government have lost the trust of all sides.
My favorite is he was renditioned to Gitmo to be tried in a secret military court for espionage and treason.
edited to add: We Wish!
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The unhinged found another hinge to fall off of.
The can of Jeffrey Epstein’s worms has been opened. And they will be crawling all over some very powerful people. Have a nice vacation Mr. President.
— Rob Reiner (@robreiner) August 10, 2019
Bill Barr’s DOJ took him off suicide watch. The same Barr who works for Trump. The same Barr who had to recuse in Epstein case in Florida. Tge sane Barr who refuses to recuse himself in NY & who’s father hired Epstein even though unqualified to teach KIDS.
— Patricia Arquette (@PattyArquette) August 10, 2019
Hollywood Floats Jeffrey Epstein Suicide Conspiracies: ‘We’re Russia Now’
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/08/11/hollywood-floats-jeffrey-epstein-suicide-conspiracies-were-russia-now/
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While this repeats that he was not on suicide watch it does state that the guards are still required to check every 30 minutes and that they did not do the required checks. But it doesn't say how long of a gap there was in checking on him and of course there's also the question of WHY didn't they do the required checks. But whatever the answer to that is the fact (supposedly) they didn't will no doubt put another layer of tin foil on the matter.
Reuters: Prison Guards Skipped Mandatory Checks Before Jeffrey Epstein’s Death
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/08/10/report-prison-guards-skipped-mandatory-checks-before-jeffrey-epsteins-death/
Because they were paid to or told to skip it.
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The MCC is a Federal facility.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Correctional_Center,_New_York
I sit corrected.
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I was super busy this weekend, so am only catching up on news now. As I read the stories, you almost have to be wearing tinfoil to NOT think he was either murdered or forced to kill himself.
I see now that there was also a cellmate that they "inexplicably" removed some hours before Epstein was found dead.
Interesting to me is how the "right-wingers are a bunch of conspiracy nuts" left are finding ways to put this all on Trump and Barr. How is that any different than pointing fingers at the Clintons? Though it seems fingers have to be pointed at someone, or some group of someones. Interesting that cause of death has not yet been released.
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Bogie posted a fun conspiracy theory on FB.
The jist is the FBI faked the death so they could get him into WITSEC and away from the armies of assassins. Also now that he's "dead" they can search his properties for more evidence without all the court challenges.
Epstein lives on, in seclusion, singing his heart out to the feds.
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Bogie posted a fun conspiracy theory on FB.
The jist is the FBI faked the death so they could get him into WITSEC and away from the armies of assassins. Also now that he's "dead" they can search his properties for more evidence without all the court challenges.
Epstein lives on, in seclusion, singing his heart out to the feds.
Bogie may have posted that in jest, but I also read an article where someone was seriously postulating something similar. Also that he had a body double whom he had groomed for years for just such an "emergency". ;/
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there's also the question of WHY didn't they do the required checks
A government employee being lazy and shirking their duties? That part doesn't require a conspiracy theory for an explanation.
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I think I have to go with Lawdog's theory on this one.
http://thelawdogfiles.blogspot.com/2019/08/cock-up-before-conspiracy.html?m=1
This doesn't mean he wasn't forced into killing himself with threats, and given an opportunity to do so.
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Ellen is right. The best part of all of this is that the whole country expected Epstein to die, and expected the Clintons to be involved with his death. Kek
Yup. It's hilarious! Everyone knew he was going to die before the trial.
And it's like... they actually did it!!! :rofl:
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This doesn't mean he wasn't forced into killing himself with threats, and given an opportunity to do so.
I'm willing to give Lawdog's theory consideration depending on the autopsy results. I'm working under the assumption that he was still in "suicide resistant" clothing and in a suicide resistant room. I didn't see any mention of pools of blood from a slit artery as of yet. Laying unresponsive with no blood and no apparent means for strangulation leaves limited options for death without outside help, even if it only involved slipping him a pill or something.
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Oh look!
The "camera malfunctioned" and there is no video of his death!
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/report-camera-malfunction-in-epsteins-prison-cell-prevented-recording-of-his-alleged-suicide/
:rofl:
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(https://i.imgflip.com/1v11rt.jpg)
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Oh look!
The "camera malfunctioned" and there is no video of his death!
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/report-camera-malfunction-in-epsteins-prison-cell-prevented-recording-of-his-alleged-suicide/
:rofl:
Well, CLEARLY you're just a nut for thinking that anything untoward happened involving nefarious former Secretaries of States and Presidents who have already had an astounding number of friends, acquaintances, and employees die in strange circumstances.
It's not like I'm seeing a mirror of corrupt Rome at all!
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I may joke about this being tin-foil stuff but seriously I'm taking it all with a grain of salt at this point.
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Well, CLEARLY you're just a nut for thinking that anything untoward happened involving nefarious former Secretaries of States and Presidents who have already had an astounding number of friends, acquaintances, and employees die in strange circumstances.
It's not like I'm seeing a mirror of corrupt Rome at all!
I wonder what it would take to get one to turn on the other.
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I'm willing to give Lawdog's theory consideration depending on the autopsy results. I'm working under the assumption that he was still in "suicide resistant" clothing and in a suicide resistant room. I didn't see any mention of pools of blood from a slit artery as of yet. Laying unresponsive with no blood and no apparent means for strangulation leaves limited options for death without outside help, even if it only involved slipping him a pill or something.
I thought the reports were that he hanged himself -- in a cell that was supposed to be hanging-proof.
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I thought the reports were that he hanged himself -- in a cell that was supposed to be hanging-proof.
I only saw that his first attempt was possibly hanging (or that the ex-cop he was housed with attempted to strangle him). On the actual death, the story I saw this morning only said, "Still awaiting autopsy results".
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I love all the public speculation about what really happened.
Nobody seems to believe the official account.
The fake news and lying government have lost the trust of all sides.
My favorite is he was renditioned to Gitmo to be tried in a secret military court for espionage and treason.
edited to add: We Wish!
The post on the News subreddit about this has about 34000 replies...I haven't looked at them all obviously, but the majority seems to be awfully suspicious.
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I only saw that his first attempt was possibly hanging (or that the ex-cop he was housed with attempted to strangle him). On the actual death, the story I saw this morning only said, "Still awaiting autopsy results".
From the pictures I've seen, the ex-cop guy would have broken Epstein in half if he'd wanted to.
I'll hold off speculating on Epstein's death, but people have been expecting him to either be suicided or to suicide himself from the very beginning.
People on both sides of the aisle are wrinkling eyebrows at this (mostly because they think Epstein could have implicated more of their political opponents than their own guys) so maybe enough of a stink will be raised to bring up some truth. But probably not.
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I wonder if Epstein had life insurance. And by "life insurance," I mean a butt-load of video, audio, and photographic evidence squirreled away somewhere safe.
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Funny thing is even Rush was inviting conspiracy theories and saying that investigations are where these things go to get pushed under the rug.
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Kind of thread veer, but man, this has got to suck:
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/08/12/what-the-heck-jeffrey-epstein-didnt-do-anything-to-deserve-this-kind-of-treatment/
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Not confirmed, but this story says he used a bed sheet to hang himself, securing it to the top bunk, which would be what - like 5' high? Seems like involuntary self-preservation instincts would kick in and make you want to stand up and stop choking.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/federal-agents-search-jeffrey-epsteins-home-in-virgin-islands
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You can tie a cord around a door knob, tie the other around your neck and sit down and lean forward. It works.
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You can tie a cord around a door knob, tie the other around your neck and sit down and lean forward. It works.
No kidding, just ask David Carradine.......oh wait.
bob
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Kind of thread veer, but man, this has got to suck:
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/08/12/what-the-heck-jeffrey-epstein-didnt-do-anything-to-deserve-this-kind-of-treatment/
He needs to change his twitter handle to @NOTTHATEpsteinJeffrey
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Bogie may have posted that in jest, but I also read an article where someone was seriously postulating something similar. Also that he had a body double whom he had groomed for years for just such an "emergency". ;/
I had to hear it all day. Only a gullible fool, you see, would believe some wild story about Epstein actually being dead. That would be crazy.
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I had to hear it all day. Only a gullible fool, you see, would believe some wild story about Epstein actually being dead. That would be crazy.
It's enough for me to not believe the official narrative.
What the truth is I have no way of knowing.
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This tweet sort of sums up my opinion on the whole Epstein affair:
When talking about an “Epstein conspiracy”- the possibility of foul play in his demise is a small part of it-
The *much bigger conspiracy* is how a pedo befriended the global elite, got a billion $ out of nowhere and had quasi-immunity from DOJ while trafficking underage girls
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I think we can consider it hearsay at this point without more corroboration, but still...
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/08/13/whoa-what-bystanders-reportedly-heard-coming-from-jeffrey-epsteins-cell-the-morning-he-died-adds-to-conspiraciesa/
We wouldn't have so many conspiracy theories floating around if the camera to the cell would have been active.
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Where the heck is Ghislaine Maxwell?
How come she isn't under arrest?
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She can't be arrested if everything is to be quietly swept under the rug.
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It's enough for me to not believe the official narrative.
What the truth is I have no way of knowing.
Sure, skepticism is warranted. It's just that, to some people, murder by suicide is passé. It's so obvious it's what they want you to believe. So the truth must be something even hinkier. Obviously.
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Yeah, this whole thing has the unreality of a Hollywood thriller movie script...but TBH, I can't see him actually committing suicide.
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https://www.foxnews.com/us/epstein-guards-falsifying-logs
Could just be laziness on the guards' part. Could be something else.
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https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/janelytvynenko/fdny-review-jeffrey-epstein-4chan-post
Interesting post on 4chan on the Epstein death before the death was officially announced. The person posting was clearly a paramedic responding to the jail; I used to write chart notes just like that on my cardiac arrest calls.
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If real :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Daily Mail: There was a portrait of Bill Clinton wearing a blue dress and red high heels in Jeffrey Epstein’s mansion
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/08/14/daily-mail-there-was-a-portrait-of-bill-clinton-wearing-a-blue-dress-and-red-high-heels-in-jeffrey-epsteins-mansion/
https://twitter.com/dmartosko/status/1161702930254315521?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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Yeah, this whole thing has the unreality of a Hollywood thriller movie script...but TBH, I can't see him actually committing suicide. [/i]
No one can. The cameras malfunctioned. >:D
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If real :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Daily Mail: There was a portrait of Bill Clinton wearing a blue dress and red high heels in Jeffrey Epstein’s mansion
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/08/14/daily-mail-there-was-a-portrait-of-bill-clinton-wearing-a-blue-dress-and-red-high-heels-in-jeffrey-epsteins-mansion/
https://twitter.com/dmartosko/status/1161702930254315521?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
I'd crack up if it was real, but it looks pretty shopped to me. Plus it suffers from "Bigfoot photo" focus.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EB87arcXsAEKvoa?format=jpg&name=small)
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I'd crack up if it was real, but it looks pretty shopped to me. Plus it suffers from "Bigfoot photo" focus.
(https://i.redd.it/fvdiorw82hg31.png)
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They have found broken neck bones. Apparently this can occur in older people who kill themselves this way, but is uncommon. I'm unfamiliar with the bones mentioned, so maybe they were small enough that they broke when (if) his previous cellmate tried to strangle him and the breaks went unnoticed until the autopsy. The autopsy is still ongoing.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/jeffrey-epsteins-autopsy-reveals-several-broken-neck-bones-cause-of-death-pending-report
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https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/janelytvynenko/fdny-review-jeffrey-epstein-4chan-post
Interesting post on 4chan on the Epstein death before the death was officially announced. The person posting was clearly a paramedic responding to the jail; I used to write chart notes just like that on my cardiac arrest calls.
Can confirm...
When I woke up and read the news that epstein died, I went right to /pol/ and the post was in a massive thread about the event. It doeasn't surprise me, Anon is everywhere.
I'm not sure why it's a big deal, other than someone broke the news before the media spin machine could get to it and spoonfeed it to the masses.
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Does noone see this as bad optics?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/08/13/michael-baden-jeffrey-epstein-autopsy/
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[tinfoil]
Almost just for the grins, I'm going to espouse the "still alive, spirited away" theory. See? A grin: :D
It struck me as odd that in one picture (or video) showing the medical response team putting him in the ambulance, they had screened off the event from public view in advance. Could have been just a file image falsely representing the actual event, though... you know how the press is, and I can't find it again.
I'm ready to bet that "his" body will be cremated. :D
Terry, :D , 230RN
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/13/nyregion/jeffrey-epstein-jail-officers.html
Both guards were "asleep". At this point, whoever is responsible is just flaunting their power and influence - "yeah, we had him killed, everyone knows it, and you can't do a bloody thing about it...peasant".
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/13/nyregion/jeffrey-epstein-jail-officers.html
Both guards were "asleep". At this point, whoever is responsible is just flaunting their power and influence - "yeah, we had him killed, everyone knows it, and you can't do a bloody thing about it...peasant".
The scary part is that you are almost certainly right.
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The scary part is that you are almost certainly right.
There is a cut scene in one of the Hitman games where your handler runs into a guy from what is basically Illuminati while on a train. One of his lines from their conversation applies here: We won a long time ago. This...this is just maintenance.
Epstein's dead (presumably), and the conspiracy is largely maintained. Also consider the fact that the rich and depraved get VERY light sentences for sex crimes much of the time...it has to be something far worse than teenage prostitutes, or even pre-teens. We're likely talking human hunting and/or human sacrifices here.
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Pretty good video on the situation, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN0E3MX470U
I'd be interested in knowing how many prisoners (or what percentage) have committed suicide on suicide watch. I'll bet the number is very low. This will all be swept under the rug. Nothing to see here.
:old:
At the prison he was in, literally zero until now...
Anyone blame Trump yet?
The left has been trying really hard to counter blame...
Anybody else notice how the closer to the truth the right is, the more the left shrieks?
Things that make you go Hmmm....
Look at the person who did his autopsy, Michael Baden.
And the government had been taking it's sweet time getting around to taking a look at the island... https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2019/08/14/virgin-islands-sen-evidence-epstein-estate-may-be-lost/?fbclid=IwAR3aU5BM6zKwxpRU-RtXJAA0WtCUVjai7oWDbQZrcCvD8k-ORBm9f0QebqQ
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I was wondering when someone would bring up the Goering suicide.
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I was wondering when someone would bring up the Goering suicide.
Please tell...
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Pretty good video on the situation, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN0E3MX470U
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It was brought up in that <ahem> videorant.
During the Nuremberg Trials, Hermann Goering committed suicide with a cyanide pill (the "suicide pill" supposedly used by spies, etc.). It is surmised that a covert Nazi sympathizer slipped him the pill so Goering would not have to undergo punishment by hanging. It was unlikely that he brought the pill into his prison cell with him.
This story outlines the situation, but I'm not sure the timelines fit, so cum granis salis:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/feb/08/usa.secondworldwar
Many other references to the Goering suicide abound both on the net and in the real world. It's just that that video is the first time I've seen a reference to the Goering suicide on APS.
Terry, 230RN
REF (Wiki Goering details):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_G%C3%B6ring
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That Bill in a blue dress is real.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/jeffrey-epstein-bill-clinton-painting-monica-lewinsky-blue-dress
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It was brought up in that <ahem> videorant.
During the Nuremberg Trials, Hermann Goering committed suicide with a cyanide pill (the "suicide pill" supposedly used by spies, etc.). It is surmised that a covert Nazi sympathizer slipped him the pill so Goering would not have to undergo punishment by hanging. It was unlikely that he brought the pill into prison with him.
This story outlines the situation, but I'm not sure the timelines fit, so cum granis salis:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/feb/08/usa.secondworldwar
Many other references to the Goering suicide abound both on the net and in the real world. It's just that that video is the first time I've seen a reference to the Goering suicide on APS.
Terry, 230RN
REF (Wiki Goering details):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_G%C3%B6ring
More recent...
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There is a cut scene in one of the Hitman games where your handler runs into a guy from what is basically Illuminati while on a train. One of his lines from their conversation applies here: Epstein's dead (presumably), and the conspiracy is largely maintained. Also consider the fact that the rich and depraved get VERY light sentences for sex crimes much of the time...it has to be something far worse than teenage prostitutes, or even pre-teens. We're likely talking human hunting and/or human sacrifices here.
powers and principalities, man, powers and principalities.
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They have found broken neck bones. Apparently this can occur in older people who kill themselves this way, but is uncommon. I'm unfamiliar with the bones mentioned, so maybe they were small enough that they broke when (if) his previous cellmate tried to strangle him and the breaks went unnoticed until the autopsy. The autopsy is still ongoing.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/jeffrey-epsteins-autopsy-reveals-several-broken-neck-bones-cause-of-death-pending-report
Prediction. One of the guards claims to have strangled him for what he did, he later turns up dead... [tinfoil]
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Welp, official autopsy report says suicide. Tied bed sheets to top bunk, then supposedly leaned forward with enough force to break the neck bones.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/16/nyregion/jeffrey-epstein-autopsy-results.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share
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I think the autopsy findings and the fracture of the hyoid bone are consistent with this scenario. A c-2 vertebral fracture would be more difficult to explain away, since this is the classic hangman's fracture caused by the long drop hanging method.
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https://www.dailywire.com/news/50937/epstein-accuser-says-she-massaged-simpsons-creator-paul-bois
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Walmart announcement :rofl:
https://t.co/R0ckJMYl5Q
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Walmart announcement :rofl:
https://t.co/R0ckJMYl5Q
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
And she was so nice and helpful too.
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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Breaking: MCC surveillance footage from outside of Jeffrey Epstein's cell after his first suicide attempt is missing. https://t.co/K8nfVjYlXI
— Stephen Brown (@PPVSRB) December 18, 2019
And then
“Assistant U.S. Attorney Jason Swergold, during a hearing in White Plains District Court, admitted nobody can find the footage of the outside of the cell the multimillionaire shared with accused quadruple murderer Nick Tartaglione” #Epstein #jeffreyEpsteinhttps://t.co/Egoh9nV3gp
— Josh Scheinblum (@joshshiney) December 19, 2019
I thought he was alone in his cell?
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/12/19/no-freaking-way-surveillance-video-from-jeffrey-epsteins-first-suicide-attempt-reported-missing/
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And then
I thought he was alone in his cell?
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/12/19/no-freaking-way-surveillance-video-from-jeffrey-epsteins-first-suicide-attempt-reported-missing/
He was alone in his cell during his successful "suicide".
He was in the cell with a mob assassin for his first "suicide" "attempt".
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So, I'm not a forensic pathologist, but I did stay in a holiday in express once. https://www.foxnews.com/us/60-minutes-obtains-graphic-photos-of-jeffrey-epstein-shortly-after-his-death (https://www.foxnews.com/us/60-minutes-obtains-graphic-photos-of-jeffrey-epstein-shortly-after-his-death)
So, you strangle yourself by leaning forward off a bed. Real defined area of bruise on the front of your throat. So how exactly does pressure get applied to make bruises on the back of your neck?
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So, you strangle yourself by leaning forward off a bed. Real defined area of bruise on the front of your throat. So how exactly does pressure get applied to make bruises on the back of your neck?
Possibly through constriction of the slip knot?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGsvY31HYco
MYTH BUSTED: Crowder Recreates Epstein Cell in Real Life! | Louder with Crowder
Steven Crowder attempted the recreate the suicide (safely). My memory might be fuzzy, but I thought they found it was remotely possible, but extremely difficult to accomplish.
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I'm adding more tin-foil to my hat
The U.S. Attorney’s Office in Manhattan told a judge Thursday that jail officials preserved video of the wrong jail cell and that a backup system also failed to capture footage because of technical issues.
Video in apparent Epstein suicide attempt is lost, US says
https://www.wave3.com/2020/01/09/video-apparent-epstein-suicide-attempt-is-lost-us-says/
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Ghislane Maxwell found guilty on five of six counts: https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/29/us/ghislaine-maxwell-trial-wednesday/index.html
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Well, that's nice.
Big deal.
Wasn't there supposed to be some radical revelation of evidence? Names being named, and so on?
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She didn't kill herself
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She didn't kill herself
Shot herself in the back of the head... 12 times...with a musket.
Then hung herself.
Then jumped off a 40 story building.
Then set herself on fire.
The cameras were down for repair that night.
The guard was out for an extended lunch break.
No foul play is suspected.
End of case.
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Shot herself in the back of the head... 12 times...with a musket.
Then hung herself.
Then jumped off a 40 story building.
Then set herself on fire.
The cameras were down for repair that night.
The guard was out for an extended lunch break.
No foul play is suspected.
End of case.
So what you are saying is she died of Covid-19.
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So what you are saying is she died of Covid-19.
Horse dewormer overdose
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I still figure the plan is Supermax prison, we forget her, she goes crazy in solitary. She knows too much because she knows whatever her father knew. And he was pretty connected.
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And dare I say it...
Oh, hell... y'all know me.
You've seen her pictures. Even the "casual" ones.
Those are stripper tits. She had work done. Fairly serious work.
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After Conviction For Sex Crimes, Ghislaine Maxwell Announces New Job At CNN https://t.co/7NIic9BZcO
— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) December 29, 2021
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Queen Elizabeth revokes Prince Andrew's military titles, royal patronages amid Epstein scandal
https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/cm/queen-elizabeth-revokes-prince-andrews-172251261.html
"With The Queen's approval and agreement, The Duke of York’s military affiliations and Royal patronages have been returned to The Queen," the palace said in a statement. "The Duke of York will continue not to undertake any public duties and is defending this case as a private citizen."
On Wednesday, a federal judge in New York rejected Prince Andrew's claim that a 2009 settlement agreement between Giuffre and Jeffrey Epstein exempted him from civil litigation.
This is an interesting development.
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Even more interesting, Maxwell apparently has given up fighting to keep the Joe Doe names sealed.
https://www.mediaite.com/news/whos-sweating-now-ghislaine-maxwell-ends-fight-to-keep-john-doe-names-sealed/
She didn't kill herself.
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Back when I was in LE, one of the ways to tamp down prostitution/street walkers/attendant crimes, we would put out female detectives to pretend to be prostitutes. They were watched over and recorded so they didn't initiate any solicitation. The local media gleefully published all of the names of the men who were arrested for solicitation. The purpose was to tamp down demand, thus slowing down some of the violent crimes that occurred as a result of prostitution. Of course, this was when the media was not particularly corrupt and affiliated with the Democrat Party and protecting the "upper crust".
We did have a local prosecutor, and very close friend of mine, who became a judge. He had shut down a house of prostitution in a high class neighborhood, sullying the names of many of the hoi poloi. The hoi poloi waited for an opportune time and set him up and he wound up being run off the bench. That led to his later suicide attempt which failed but really screwed him up physically and mentally, and he died a few short years later. Don't underestimate the power of the wealthy.
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Queen Elizabeth revokes Prince Andrew's military titles, royal patronages amid Epstein scandal
https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/cm/queen-elizabeth-revokes-prince-andrews-172251261.html
This is an interesting development.
Indeed. Andrew is widely regarded as the Queen's favorite child. This has to hurt her Majesty tremendously.
And with Harry having removed himself from the ranks of the "working royals," the Queen is running short on relatives among whom to redistribute all those titles and patronages.
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Apparently she's seeking a retrial because of
The retrial request comes after a juror in the case told media that he used his own experience of being sexually abused to influence jurors reaching a verdict.
Ghislaine Maxwell seeks retrial in sex abuse case
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60064474
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Queen Elizabeth revokes Prince Andrew's military titles, royal patronages amid Epstein scandal
https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/cm/queen-elizabeth-revokes-prince-andrews-172251261.html
This is an interesting development.
Well she is certainly better informed than us about what the hell is actually happening in the world.
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Well she is certainly better informed than us about what the hell is actually happening in the world.
Yeah. This makes him sound guilty as %$^.
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^^^A major difference between the English and American civil lawsuit system is that the Americans use depositions in discovery and the English/Welsh court systems use written statements instead. I bet Prince Andrew is not looking forward to being grilled live and on video about his knowledge and actions in this case.
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More on Prince Andrew
Prince Andrew has settled a civil sexual assault case brought against him in the US by Virginia Giuffre, court documents show.
Ms Giuffre had been suing the Duke of York, claiming he sexually assaulted her on three occasions when she was 17, allegations he has repeatedly denied.
A letter filed to the US district court on Tuesday said the duke and Ms Giuffre had reached an out-of-court settlement.
Prince Andrew settles US civil sex assault case
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-60393843
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There is a good chance Pizzagate will be back in the news again this year.
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Just being Pro-Active.
John Durham didn't kill himself.
Michael Sussmann didn't kill himself.
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Epstein associate Jean Luc Brunel found hanged in his Paris prison cell, rumor control has it that security cameras were inoperable.
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Epstein associate Jean Luc Brunel found hanged in his Paris prison cell, rumor control has it that security cameras were inoperable.
What a coincidence!
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I would really like to know the names of the politicians Epstein was blackmailing with sex. I don't think its ever going to happen though.
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I would really like to know the names of the politicians Epstein was blackmailing with sex.
Most of them.
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I really hope Epstein or Maxwell had a dead-man switch on their blackmail data.
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I really hope Epstein or Maxwell had a dead-man switch on their blackmail data.
Heard it's safely stored on Hillary's server.
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It was on Weiners laptop so the gov has it locked up.
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Epstein associate Jean Luc Brunel found hanged in his Paris prison cell, rumor control has it that security cameras were inoperable.
He prob'ly knew where all the used condoms were buried ...
:-X permanently.
Woody
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Epstein associate Jean Luc Brunel found hanged in his Paris prison cell, rumor control has it that security cameras were inoperable.
If the lights suddenly go out in your house for no reason Hillary is near
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From what I read, the gov sent folks to raid Epsteins house. He had a closet full DVDs labeled with the names of prominent figures. They supposedly left those in place. Later, they all mysteriously "disappeared." Imagine that.
https://theweek.com/speedreads/851513/does-jeffrey-epstein-have-blackmail-tapes
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I still like my theory that Epstein was the useful idiot in front. Maxwell is the real principal.
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She's on suicide watch.
Safe to say everyone else has had her on "suicide" watch for a while
Ghislaine Maxwell, ex-lover of Jeffrey Epstein, placed on suicide watch ahead of sentencing
https://www.foxnews.com/us/ghislaine-maxwell-jeffrey-epstein-suicide-watch
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Why can't someone FOIA The List?
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Why can't someone FOIA The List?
Because they will return a blank page saying they could not find any files related to request. I am guessing here but I think that may have already been done a few times.
bob
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She's on suicide watch.
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20 years or until the security cameras go down while the guards take a break, which ever comes first.
Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein cohort, hit with 20 years for sex-trafficking teen girls
https://www.foxnews.com/us/ghislaine-maxwell-jeffrey-epstein-confidante-hit-20-sex-trafficking-teen-girls
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https://babylonbee.com/news/ghislaine-maxwell-sentenced-to-prison-in-spite-of-years-of-faithful-service-to-nations-leaders
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20 years or until the security cameras go down while the guards take a break, which ever comes first.
Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein cohort, hit with 20 years for sex-trafficking teen girls
https://www.foxnews.com/us/ghislaine-maxwell-jeffrey-epstein-confidante-hit-20-sex-trafficking-teen-girls
Now they need to release her full list of "clients".
Not gonna happen but it damn well should.
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I'm figuring that somewhere there is a close friend/friends who has that list... and if/when she croaks, if they aren't able to get that name out of her, it will be disseminated widespread...
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Now they need to release her full list of "clients".
Not gonna happen but it damn well should.
Just goes to show that with stuff like this, the elite R and D power brokers are all part of the same team.
Re: what Bogie said, I also hope there is a dead man switch somewhere in the ether that will activate after her upcoming death.
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I'm figuring that somewhere there is a close friend/friends who has that list... and if/when she croaks, if they aren't able to get that name out of her, it will be disseminated widespread...
It won't mean a thing if it doesn't come directly from Ghislaine Maxwell.
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Elon posted this
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Love is finishing each other's sentences.
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Love is finishing each other's sentences.
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Dropping this here
I'm not attesting to the truthfulness of it
The grisly scene where a top Bill Clinton adviser was found hanged from a tree with a gunshot wound to his chest has finally been revealed nine months after he died.
'I could see what at first appeared to be a man sitting near a tree, as my eyes focused better, I could see a rope of some type going from the tree limb to the male."
Lawson said it was clear that Middleton was dead.
'I could see that he had a gunshot wound to the chest and that he had a knot tied in an extension cord that was around his neck and it was attached to the limb directly above him.
The deputy said a search of Middleton's vehicle turned up three boxes of buckshot and a gun case – but no weapon.
Ruled a suicide
Middleton was a special advisor to Bill Clinton in the 1990s and signed Jeffrey Epstein into the White House on seven of the 17 times the late pedophile visited.
Middleton also flew on Epstein's jet, nicknamed the 'Lolita Express'. More recently he had been working for his family's HVAC business in Little Rock.
EXCLUSIVE: Arkansas cops rule suicide in death of Clinton aide linked to Jeffrey Epstein - who was found shot and tied to a tree with an electrical cord around his neck - despite no sign of weapon
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11759771/Mystery-Bill-Clinton-advisor-dead-gunshot-wound-no-gun.html
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I'm sure he shot himself in the chest and the hid the weapon before hanging himself. Sure, I buy it.
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He probably used one of those ghost guns we've been hearing about.
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And another friend of the Clintons "commits suicide"
Billionaire financier, 78, is found dead inside Fifth Avenue office: Investor - who was friends with Clintons - died from self-inflicted gunshot wound - as family say 'our hearts are broken'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11787061/NYC-billionaire-financier-Thomas-H-Lee-78-dead-self-inflicted-gunshot-wound.html
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Which is more dangerous?
Being a friend of the Clintons, or being a friend of Putin?
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Which is more dangerous?
Being a friend of the Clintons, or being a friend of Putin?
Your question makes one wonder what would happen if Putin and the Clintons became "friends". Who would suicide first?
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If I had a tin foil hat :P
All five men were on a twin-engine Beech BE20 that was heading to Columbus, Ohio on Wednesday when it crashed a few miles south of the Bill and Hillary Clinton National Airport, authorities said.
Arkansas firm identifies executives dead from plane crash
https://www.foxnews.com/us/arkansas-firm-identifies-executives-dead-plane-crash
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If I had a tin foil hat :P
Arkansas firm identifies executives dead from plane crash
https://www.foxnews.com/us/arkansas-firm-identifies-executives-dead-plane-crash
I'm guessing at least one of them didn't buy the suicide story.
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Click Here For An Updated Number Of Epstein Island Pedophiles That Have Been Arrested
https://babylonbee.com/news/click-here-for-an-updated-number-of-epstein-island-pedophiles-that-have-been-arrested
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“Jeffrey Epstein discovered that Bill Gates had an affair with a Russian bridge player and later appeared to use his knowledge to threaten one of the world’s richest men, according to people familiar with the matter.”https://t.co/HHZAtJpILp
— Jerry Dunleavy 🇺🇸 (@JerryDunleavy) May 21, 2023
Maybe Melinda Gates' suddenly up and divorcing Bill last year was prompted by her finding out about this thing? She's repeatedly said that his relationship with Epstein is the primary reason behind the divorce.
— Haggai2x19 (@haggai2x19) May 21, 2023
Wonder if Epstein had a Dead Man Switch on the info?
Just WOW: Jeffrey Epstein allegedly blackmailed Bill Gates over affair with a Russian bridge player
https://twitchy.com/justmindy-313239/2023/05/21/jeffrey-epstein-allegedly-blackmailed-bill-gates-over-an-affair-with-a-russian-bridge-player-and-heads-are-spinning/
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DOJ rules Jeffery Epstein death a suicide.
No comment
DoJ said 'no evidence' found to contradict original ruling that he acted alone
Jeffrey Epstein's death WAS suicide with no outside involvement, DoJ rules: Lazy staff who didn't check cell or remove 'excess' blankets are blamed for conspiracy theories surrounding pedophile's hanging death
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12238859/Jeffrey-Epsteins-death-suicide-no-outside-involvement-DoJ-rules.html
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This is my “oh I’m so shocked” face.
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In their defense, people made sure there was no other evidence remaining or found to say anything else.
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My pet theory is that he was blackmailed into killing himself.
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The whole Epstein/pedophile thing is just an internecine conflict among our evil rulers IMHO.
Nobody really cares about the victims.
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If they did, his clients would be prosecuted.
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My pet theory is that he was blackmailed into killing himself.
I have heard people say it would be pretty easy to move a killer into a nearby cell and open the cells at the right time (assuming the right people were paid off).