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A Double Barrel Shotgun Will Keep You Safer...
« on: January 24, 2013, 06:08:21 PM »
...than an "assault weapon". Or so says expert Joe Biden. So if it's a hurricane instead of an earthquake, what do you use then?

http://thehill.com/video/administration/279161-biden-better-to-use-a-shotgun-than-an-assault-weapon-during-an-earthquake-
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Re: A Double Barrel Shotgun Will Keep You Safer...
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2013, 06:10:51 PM »
Well, then, he should order the Secret Service to get rid of all guns except double-barreled shotguns. Lead by example.

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Re: A Double Barrel Shotgun Will Keep You Safer...
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2013, 06:13:39 PM »
Earthquake = SxS shottie
Volcano = O/U shottie
Hurricanes = Hawkins rifle
Tornadoes = thuddy-thuddy
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Re: A Double Barrel Shotgun Will Keep You Safer...
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2013, 06:31:38 PM »
Is this the Biden "town hall" thingee?
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Re: A Double Barrel Shotgun Will Keep You Safer...
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2013, 06:32:10 PM »
Well, then, he should order the Secret Service to get rid of all guns except double-barreled shotguns. Lead by example.


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Re: A Double Barrel Shotgun Will Keep You Safer...
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2013, 06:38:03 PM »
Well, then, he should order the Secret Service to get rid of all guns except double-barreled shotguns. Lead by example.


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Re: A Double Barrel Shotgun Will Keep You Safer...
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2013, 07:24:13 PM »
Is this the Biden "town hall" thingee?

Yes.
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Re: A Double Barrel Shotgun Will Keep You Safer...
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2013, 07:30:20 PM »
Can we just ban Biden?

I think we'd all be much safer, or at least less confused by his logic and reasoning skills.
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Re: A Double Barrel Shotgun Will Keep You Safer...
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2013, 09:33:33 PM »
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Can we just ban Biden?

I think we'd all be much safer, or at least less confused by his logic and reasoning skills.

QFT.

Although this is pretty handy for home defense!

http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/shotguns/ksg/

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Re: A Double Barrel Shotgun Will Keep You Safer...
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2013, 12:23:57 AM »
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Re: A Double Barrel Shotgun Will Keep You Safer...
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2013, 01:07:21 AM »
I played the same video game that Biden has and could argue that a 'n00b t00b' is easier to make hits with than a shotgun. So Joe, why don't you push for legalizing RPGs and rocket launchers?
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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2013, 01:46:51 AM »
The VP has defended himself after an earthquake? How else could he be an expert on this subject?

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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2013, 07:06:53 AM »
The VP has defended himself after an earthquake? How else could he be an expert on this subject?

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Yes he has.  Just like he was near the Lancaster school shooting.  ;/
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Re: A Double Barrel Shotgun Will Keep You Safer...
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2013, 07:38:15 AM »
Based on Biden's recommendation alone, I may just have to sell my coach gun & get an AR.....and I don't even like AR's......  :facepalm:
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Re: A Double Barrel Shotgun Will Keep You Safer...
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2013, 07:50:23 AM »
Wonder why they are going after those scary looking guns instead of the more effective, easy to use, high capacity* double barrel shotgun?

*I predict that once some homicidal looney is forced to use a shotgun for his killing spree because of magazine limitations, that the media will go bonkers when they learn that one shotgun shell has hundreds of "bullets" in it.
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Re: A Double Barrel Shotgun Will Keep You Safer...
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2013, 12:06:26 PM »
Biden doesn't realize it, but he has something of a point.

I had a discussion with a budding-anti niece about AR's and 30 round magazines. She was going on about how quickly AR's can kill. I explained to her that one pull of the trigger on an AR15 launches a 55 grain .22" diameter projectile that hasabout 1300 foot-pounds of muzzle energy, while one pull of the trigger of a shotgun loaded with 00 buck releases 9 55 grain .33" diameter projectiles that have about 1600 foot-pounds of muzzle energy. An AR15 with a 30 round mag is going to release 30 of these projectiles, while a shotgun with a seven shell tube is going to release 63 of these projectiles. On that basis of that, I asked, which should be banned? She didn't have a good response.

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Re: A Double Barrel Shotgun Will Keep You Safer...
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2013, 12:25:38 PM »
Biden doesn't realize it, but he has something of a point.

I had a discussion with a budding-anti niece about AR's and 30 round magazines. She was going on about how quickly AR's can kill. I explained to her that one pull of the trigger on an AR15 launches a 55 grain .22" diameter projectile that hasabout 1300 foot-pounds of muzzle energy, while one pull of the trigger of a shotgun loaded with 00 buck releases 9 55 grain .33" diameter projectiles that have about 1600 foot-pounds of muzzle energy. An AR15 with a 30 round mag is going to release 30 of these projectiles, while a shotgun with a seven shell tube is going to release 63 of these projectiles. On that basis of that, I asked, which should be banned? She didn't have a good response.

I keep a loaded 12 gauge at home for defense ~~ but it ain't no "Biden" double-barrel.  It's a Mossberg 500 with a side-saddle.  I also have an AR.  I wouldn't feel poorly defended with the AR loaded & ready. 
I would, however, not really care for the Biden double barrel as I'd like a tad more firepower even in 12 gauge before reloading.  I've always found pumps & semis easier to load than the break-open type shotguns.
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Re: A Double Barrel Shotgun Will Keep You Safer...
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2013, 12:53:53 PM »
The Second Amendment is not about hurricanes and earthquakes.

Shotguns are great--no doubt most of us have one assigned for HD--but they are close-quarters weapons.
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Re: A Double Barrel Shotgun Will Keep You Safer...
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2013, 02:09:22 PM »
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He's probably just going on some vague memories from his childhood.  Grandpa and his shotgun.

Is he even aware that they aren't nearly as popular or available now, pumps being both much cheaper and more capacious?
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« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2013, 02:17:06 PM »
Is he even aware that they aren't nearly as popular or available now, pumps being both much cheaper and more capacious?

That is the truth, I've been looking for a nice Italian or Spainish made 20 sxs for under a grand for a long time.
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Re: A Double Barrel Shotgun Will Keep You Safer...
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2013, 02:20:08 PM »
That is the truth, I've been looking for a nice Italian or Spainish made 20 sxs for under a grand for a long time.

I've got a AYA Matador 20 gauge.

(Can't have it.  Legacy gun -- was my Grandpa's.  It's also a bit unreliable -- liable to touch off both barrels with one trigger pull.  Pretty though.)
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« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2013, 02:32:30 PM »
I've got a AYA Matador 20 gauge.

(Can't have it.  Legacy gun -- was my Grandpa's.  It's also a bit unreliable -- liable to touch off both barrels with one trigger pull.  Pretty though.)

I was thinking something closer to a Grulla Armas. :)
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Re: A Double Barrel Shotgun Will Keep You Safer...
« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2013, 02:45:37 PM »
I think it has become abundantly clear that in the view of those who presume to rule over us, were are only fit to own weapons from the mid 19th century, if anything at all. That is "common sense" for them.
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Re: A Double Barrel Shotgun Will Keep You Safer...
« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2013, 06:04:57 PM »
I think it has become abundantly clear that in the view of those who presume to rule over us, were are only fit to own weapons from the mid 19th century, if anything at all. That is "common sense" for them.


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