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Title: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on November 01, 2013, 01:58:38 PM
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/ap/ap/us/possible-shooting-reported-at-lax/nbfNH/

At least a dozen shots, supposedly.  Inside the terminal.  I assume this means it is inside the "secure" area past the TSA?

Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: BobR on November 01, 2013, 02:02:42 PM
Probably not, anything inside the doors would be counted as inside the terminal by the media.

bob
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: TechMan on November 01, 2013, 02:06:44 PM
According to http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/11/01/passengers-evacuated-from-terminal-at-los-angeles-international-airport-after/ (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/11/01/passengers-evacuated-from-terminal-at-los-angeles-international-airport-after/)
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One witness said a person with a rifle opened fire after getting through a security checkpoint.
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: Ben on November 01, 2013, 02:08:46 PM
I'm watching it on Fox Business, and they, at least, are being very careful to say only that there were shots fired in the terminal, but that there is no solid information yet as to where exactly it happened.

EDT: Well, except for what adively posted while I was typing. That's the second time i heard that it was a rifle.
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: MillCreek on November 01, 2013, 02:09:04 PM
A TSA official is reported dead.
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on November 01, 2013, 02:10:06 PM
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The Los Angeles Times reports that two or three TSA employees were hit by gunfire.

Purple Hearts all around for the Thousands Standing Around!  Let's arm them and make them real sworn LEA's while we're at it. ;/

Waiting for the spin by the Statists in favor of more authoritah.  3...2...1...
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: MillCreek on November 01, 2013, 02:14:32 PM
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/11/01/21277650-shooter-opens-fire-at-los-angeles-international-airport?lite

Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: TechMan on November 01, 2013, 02:16:35 PM
Watching live report from Foxnews.com, it does look like a AR15 - M4 Style.  They showed a wider view and it appears to be at a gate (waiting chairs, etc.)
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: Nick1911 on November 01, 2013, 02:19:12 PM
Too early to speculate on what's happened, but my heart goes out to any innocent people who were harmed.  =|
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on November 01, 2013, 02:25:50 PM
Just heard that the shooter might have been a disgruntled TSA employee.
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: charby on November 01, 2013, 02:25:59 PM
Too early to speculate on what's happened, but my heart goes out to any innocent people who were harmed.  =|

x1million  :'(
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: charby on November 01, 2013, 02:32:54 PM
Just heard that the shooter might have been a disgruntled TSA employee.

Just read that and shooter is in custody.
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: BobR on November 01, 2013, 02:44:50 PM
Just read that and shooter is in custody.

When things like this happen, I usually assume a disgruntled employee or an angry husband/boyfriend taking out his frustration on the one doing the dirty with his wife/girlfriend.

bob
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: geronimotwo on November 01, 2013, 03:01:57 PM
what!  another "gun free zone" shooting?
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: fifth_column on November 01, 2013, 03:03:19 PM
A person describing an injury:

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“I said, let me take a look, and he pulls up the pant leg and there’s a flesh wound — 3 to 4 inches — looks like it’s straight out of Hollywood, maybe a drop of blood or two,” he said.

It's amazing to me when people reference movies to stress how "realistic" something looks.
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: Phyphor on November 01, 2013, 03:05:11 PM
The libtard avalanche has begun on Twitter.

"Another shooting with an assault rifle.  Surprise, surprise. "

Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on November 01, 2013, 03:06:04 PM
what!  another "gun free zone" shooting?

With this being TSA-on-TSA violence, that means it wouldn't have happened at all if the TSA wasn't in the airports in the first place.

Maybe we can get the TSA classified as an organized criminal syndicate over this, or a gang, or domestic terrorism group.
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: zxcvbob on November 01, 2013, 03:18:51 PM
With this being TSA-on-TSA violence, that means it wouldn't have happened at all if the TSA wasn't in the airports in the first place.

Maybe we can get the TSA classified as an organized criminal syndicate over this, or a gang, or domestic terrorism group.

Where did you read that?  (not that it would surprise me)
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on November 01, 2013, 03:27:47 PM
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Los-Angeles-Airport-LAX-Shooting-230220201.html

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During a mid-day news conference, authorities did not confirm reports that the gunman was an off-duty or former TSA employee.

Drudge used to have a different story link but has since pulled it.  Speculative, but I saw it at Daily Paul, Drudge and elsewhere.  Now, this is the only one I can find.
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: Fly320s on November 01, 2013, 03:28:57 PM
A TSA official is reported dead.

Just one?
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on November 01, 2013, 03:30:15 PM
Another one claiming shooter was TSA agent... headline says it.

http://kfor.com/2013/11/01/los-angeles-airport-evacuated-for-reported-shooting/

Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on November 01, 2013, 03:34:25 PM
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/1/possible-shooting-reported-lax/

Washington Times says that despite earlier reports, shooter is not an off-duty TSA employee.

Note the wording though, that there is no denial that the shooter is not a former TSA employee.


Also:

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One witness was taking a nap, when he was awakened by the sound of gunfire and panicked people, CNN reported.

“I heard a popping sound and everybody was diving for cover,” said the man, Robert Perez, to CNN. “The TSA said there was a shooting in the terminal and to evacuate the building.”

Mr. Perez said he saw about 100 people fleeing down the stairs.

EFAD.
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: Gowen on November 01, 2013, 04:47:12 PM
Isn't this the same place where they were getting dry ice bombs?
Title: WTF? Timing is WAY too soon for this story.
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on November 01, 2013, 04:56:04 PM
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/nbc-news-pete-williams-lax-shooter-paul-anthony-ciancia-had-strong-anti-government-views/

NBC's Peter Williams evidently has ALREADY done enough research on Paul Ciancia to determine he's a right wing anti-government type.


ETA: Surprised the shooter's name isn't Jimmy Schiflett. ;/
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on November 01, 2013, 04:58:53 PM
Moar EFAD:

http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=41900.0
Title: Re: WTF? Timing is WAY too soon for this story.
Post by: Jamisjockey on November 01, 2013, 05:05:22 PM
Wouldn't be the first time.  We've pretty much heard that every shooter was a tea party republican nut. Until they aren't.
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: Jamisjockey on November 01, 2013, 05:07:36 PM
Topix merged
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on November 01, 2013, 05:12:20 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/01/us/lax-gunfire/


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Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: freakazoid on November 01, 2013, 05:30:41 PM
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He added that no database indicates that Ciancia was on a watch list and the shooters home has not been searched.

Does the news have a list of everybody that is on these databases or something?
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on November 01, 2013, 06:06:34 PM
Does the news have a list of everybody that is on these databases or something?

They probably compiled the list in the first place.
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: lupinus on November 01, 2013, 06:10:02 PM
Does the news have a list of everybody that is on these databases or something?
Only the right ones
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: lee n. field on November 01, 2013, 07:25:52 PM
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He added that no database indicates that Ciancia was on a watch list and the shooters home has not been searched.
Does the news have a list of everybody that is on these databases or something?

Note to self: encrypted file systems, offsite backup.
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: Tallpine on November 01, 2013, 08:18:38 PM
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A man carrying a note that said he wanted to "kill TSA" pulled a semi-automatic rifle from a bag and shot his way past a security checkpoint at Los Angeles International Airport on Friday, cutting down one Transportation Security Administration officer and wounding at least three others, authorities said.


Been wondering when this sort of thing would happen.
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: freakazoid on November 01, 2013, 10:35:51 PM
Wonder if the shooter had a bad experience with the TSA at some point.
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: geronimotwo on November 02, 2013, 04:13:35 AM
^^the tsa agent smiled a bit too much during his strip search?


the talking heads are reporting that even those who have had no exposure to guns "knew" that it was a "big" gun by the sound.   :facepalm:    seriously, you might as well say my source is an idiot but i'm quoting them anyway.

Isn't this the same place where they were getting dry ice bombs?

it would be interesting if video surfaced of him watching the response from that day. 
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: Jamisjockey on November 02, 2013, 08:21:05 AM
Nooz reported he was texting his family long, rambling texts right before the incident.  My money is on him being diagnosed mentally ill.
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on November 02, 2013, 08:40:43 AM
Nooz reported he was texting his family long, rambling texts right before the incident.  My money is on him being diagnosed mentally ill.


thats a very good bet
interesting that roomates said he seemed fine.  some folks are very aware that somethings wrong and conceal it from other folks well
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: Tallpine on November 02, 2013, 11:39:05 AM
Wonder if the shooter had a bad experience with the TSA at some point.

Only if he had ever flown in the last ten years.


Are all the terminals at LAX similar?  The one(s) that I have been through, unless you are one of those platinum gold super priviledged flyer folks, you have to go down a long zig zagging underground tunnel to get to the security check.  It's like going into a dungeon prison ("abandon all hope...") and ALL of the TSA agents were fat and black.

I guess he could have shot his way through the upper floor security, but they have a bunch of folks screening out all the peasant flyers before you can even get in the line  =|
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: Jamisjockey on November 02, 2013, 05:54:50 PM
thats a very good bet
interesting that roomates said he seemed fine.  some folks are very aware that somethings wrong and conceal it from other folks well

On meds.  Then off meds.  Then pew pew pew the voices told me to do it.
Only if he had ever flown in the last ten years.


Are all the terminals at LAX similar?  The one(s) that I have been through, unless you are one of those platinum gold super priviledged flyer folks, you have to go down a long zig zagging underground tunnel to get to the security check.  It's like going into a dungeon prison ("abandon all hope...") and ALL of the TSA agents were fat and black.

I guess he could have shot his way through the upper floor security, but they have a bunch of folks screening out all the peasant flyers before you can even get in the line  =|

It's been a while, but I'm pretty sure they are not all the same.  The terminal he attacked had pretty much no setback from the street.  Nooz says a dozen steps from the doors to the security line.
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: Tallpine on November 02, 2013, 08:30:21 PM
On meds.  Then off meds.  Then pew pew pew the voices told me to do it.
It's been a while, but I'm pretty sure they are not all the same.  The terminal he attacked had pretty much no setback from the street.  Nooz says a dozen steps from the doors to the security line.

I don't think any of them have more than a wide sidewalk setback from the street area.

I don't remember the nightmare terminal number where I was, but it served Delta (  =( ) I think.
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: p12 on November 03, 2013, 06:56:25 AM
From linked article at Fox News below.

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Ciancia, 23, remained hospitalized Saturday after being hit four times and wounded in the mouth and leg. The FBI said he was unresponsive and they had not been able to interview him.

The announcement of charges came after authorities say they have found a note handwritten by Ciancia in which he describes his intent to kill TSA employees and “pigs,” a law enforcement official told The Associated Press. The handwritten note found in Ciancia's duffel bag and signed by him stated that he had "made the conscious decision to try to kill" multiple TSA employees and that he wanted to stir fear in them, FBI agent in charge David L. Bowdich said.

"Black, white, yellow, brown, I don't discriminate," the note read, according to a law enforcement official who spoke to the Associated Press.

The suspect's screed reportedly also mentioned "fiat currency" and "NWO," possible references to the New World Order, a conspiracy theory that foresees a totalitarian one-world government.

A law enforcement official who was not authorized to discuss the investigation publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity, said the note referred to how the gunman believed his constitutional rights were being violated by TSA searches and that he was a “pissed-off patriot” upset at former Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano.

Emphasis added.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/11/03/suspect-in-lax-shooting-apparently-had-suicidal-thoughts/ (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/11/03/suspect-in-lax-shooting-apparently-had-suicidal-thoughts/)

How convenient.  [tinfoil]
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: Ben on November 03, 2013, 09:30:38 AM
Ugh.

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/lax-shooting-not-a-random-event-110113
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: freakazoid on November 03, 2013, 01:28:16 PM
Ugh.

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/lax-shooting-not-a-random-event-110113

The amount of idiocy in the article makes my head hurt, and reading through some of the comments didn't help things either.
 [barf]
Title: Re: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on November 03, 2013, 01:34:03 PM
at least he said he was leaving
hold him to it

damn phone
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on November 03, 2013, 05:49:48 PM
Ugh.

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/lax-shooting-not-a-random-event-110113

Why did I read that?

What a maroon.
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: TommyGunn on November 03, 2013, 06:10:25 PM
Ugh.

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/lax-shooting-not-a-random-event-110113
:facepalm:
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: lupinus on November 03, 2013, 07:26:27 PM
Ugh.

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/lax-shooting-not-a-random-event-110113
the stupid hurts.

And it particularly hurts when I can't respond on the article with just how stupid it was.
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 03, 2013, 08:27:36 PM
He says he's leaving. I hope he means, leaving the country.
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: Bigjake on November 03, 2013, 09:49:12 PM
My opinion on Bad Things happening to TSA minions would get me TJIC'd.

That said,  I don't have a lot of sympathy for willing participants of what the TSA does.
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on November 03, 2013, 10:24:47 PM
My opinion on Bad Things happening to TSA minions would get me TJIC'd.

That said,  I don't have a lot of sympathy for willing participants of what the TSA does.

+ censored. >:D
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: Doggy Daddy on November 04, 2013, 07:50:26 AM
Why did I read that?

What a maroon.

Right column, down one page.  See the maroon.


http://www.esquire.com/archives/blogs/politics/by_author/68/15;1 (http://www.esquire.com/archives/blogs/politics/by_author/68/15;1)
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: brimic on November 04, 2013, 02:25:58 PM
My opinion on Bad Things happening to TSA minions would get me TJIC'd.

That said,  I don't have a lot of sympathy for willing participants of what the TSA does.

Maybe there will be a new policy or procedure where TSA agents will be required to wear Level III body armor while on the job  >:D
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on November 04, 2013, 02:55:34 PM
Maybe there will be a new policy or procedure where TSA agents will be required to wear Level III body armor while on the job  >:D

Do they make that in size XXXXXXL?

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fericpetersautos.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F11%2FTSA-3-300x183.jpg&hash=c28ee6854d4dbcb353f116a4e0e255612c9df097)

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.anonymoushints.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F11%2Ftsa-screening.jpg&hash=e1e4a89f14e0a3881fe2fe4b6899c02a197ac74d)
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: Bigjake on November 04, 2013, 07:07:41 PM
Maybe there will be a new policy or procedure where TSA agents will be required to wear Level III body armor while on the job  >:D

Hell, the crappy flacks/SAPIs the USMC is phasing out would do nicely.  The schadenfreude of seeing TSA goons subjected those heavy bastards would be delicious.
Title: Re:
Post by: Fitz on November 04, 2013, 08:18:59 PM
Hell, the crappy flacks/SAPIs the USMC is phasing out would do nicely.  The schadenfreude of seeing TSA goons subjected those heavy bastards would be delicious.

This

IBA with side sapi now that we have the IOTV
Title: Re:
Post by: dogmush on November 04, 2013, 11:08:17 PM
This

IBA with side sapi now that we have the IOTV

Oh hell yeah. Gotta keep our protectors safe. Don't forget groin and throat protectors.
Title: Update: Mini-AR rifle
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 11, 2013, 12:37:34 AM
Shooter armed with Ruger mini AR-14 rifle: apparently a concealable assault rifle.

http://therealrevo.com/blog/?p=107148


 :rofl:    =(
Title: Re: Update: Mini-AR rifle
Post by: Fly320s on November 11, 2013, 08:26:51 AM
Shooter armed with Ruger mini AR-14 rifle: apparently a concealable assault rifle.

http://therealrevo.com/blog/?p=107148


 :rofl:    =(

But it was black!
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on November 11, 2013, 10:11:39 AM
This site says it was a S&W MP 15.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/11/03/suspect-in-lax-shooting-apparently-had-suicidal-thoughts/

Looks more like the tactical mini-14, to me.
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: brimic on November 11, 2013, 02:12:16 PM
What!?!
No Bushmaster???
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: TechMan on November 11, 2013, 02:29:06 PM
What!?!
No Bushmaster???

That is so passé.
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: AmbulanceDriver on November 11, 2013, 06:44:33 PM
I find it interesting that this story seems to have almost fallen off the radar........
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on November 11, 2013, 08:37:54 PM
I find it interesting that this story seems to have almost fallen off the radar........


Um... the victim was an employee of one of the most hated government institutions in existence.
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: Hawkmoon on November 11, 2013, 09:50:38 PM
the talking heads are reporting that even those who have had no exposure to guns "knew" that it was a "big" gun by the sound.  

So it was a .22 Magnum Rimfire, then?
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: Hawkmoon on November 11, 2013, 09:53:00 PM
What!?!
No Bushmaster???

It's been done. Google "Sandy Hook."

Bushmaster is SOOOOOOO yesterday ...
Title: Re: Shots fired at LAX Terminal
Post by: Hawkmoon on November 11, 2013, 09:55:19 PM
I find it interesting that this story seems to have almost fallen off the radar........

So has the Navy Yard shooting.

Why? Because there weren't any children massacred. Insufficient Sympathy Quotient (ISQ) when the only victims are all adults.