Spotify, Joe Rogan, Neil Young

[Bogie]

And they were trashing Van Morrison last year too...
 
https://youtu.be/dNt4NIQ7FTA
 
https://youtu.be/yUOWS7arfw4

[Ben]

Y'all need to get better at 1) never ever believe the story as presented, especially if it flatters your biases and 2) follow the money.

Neil Young is trying to launch his own streaming service because he's not happy about the tiny commissions Spotify pay him. And Spotify is obviously his biggest competitor. And if you want to launch your own streaming platform, it's bad marketing to stay on Spotify because people will just keep listening to you on Spotify and not pay for another subscription to listen to something that they are already paying to listen to on Spotify. He has to exit Spotify, just like Disney pulled all their content from Netflix when they launched Disney+. This is entirely about him trying to exit Spotify in a way that 0) results in media attention, good or bad doesn't matter, which has succeeded thanks to drones propagating the story, including here 1) doesn't make him look simply jealous of more successful acts like JRE which he probably is 2) doesn't make him look greedy for thinking he merits higher commissions than everyone else, instead he has a self-righteous smokescreen to exit Spotify while covering up to real reason for leaving (greed/capitalism) 3) makes Spotify look bad to some people for hosting and making money off misinformation 4) will help him extract some Spotify content providers to his platform while hopefully avoiding them questioning why they should go on his platform, for which the real reason it exists at all is so that Niel Young can scrape their commissions instead of Spotify.

It's a perfectly strategic move; has nothing to do with any sincere belief.

Got any links? All I found with "Neil Young launching streaming service" was a Wall Street Journal article from three years ago, and then that he has now made a deal for his own channel on Sirius post the spotify split.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=neil+young+launching+streaming+service&atb=v1-1&ia=web

[kgbsquirrel]

Y'all need to get better at 1) never ever believe the story as presented, especially if it flatters your biases and 2) follow the money.

Neil Young is trying to launch his own streaming service because he's not happy about the tiny commissions Spotify pay him. And Spotify is obviously his biggest competitor. And if you want to launch your own streaming platform, it's bad marketing to stay on Spotify because people will just keep listening to you on Spotify and not pay for another subscription to listen to something that they are already paying to listen to on Spotify. He has to exit Spotify, just like Disney pulled all their content from Netflix when they launched Disney+. This is entirely about him trying to exit Spotify in a way that 0) results in media attention, good or bad doesn't matter, which has succeeded thanks to drones propagating the story, including here 1) doesn't make him look simply jealous of more successful acts like JRE which he probably is 2) doesn't make him look greedy for thinking he merits higher commissions than everyone else, instead he has a self-righteous smokescreen to exit Spotify while covering up to real reason for leaving (greed/capitalism) 3) makes Spotify look bad to some people for hosting and making money off misinformation 4) will help him extract some Spotify content providers to his platform while hopefully avoiding them questioning why they should go on his platform, for which the real reason it exists at all is so that Niel Young can scrape their commissions instead of Spotify.

It's a perfectly strategic move; has nothing to do with any sincere belief.

Well there it is.  Good post.

[BlueStarLizzard]

Got any links? All I found with "Neil Young launching streaming service" was a Wall Street Journal article from three years ago, and then that he has now made a deal for his own channel on Sirius post the spotify split.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=neil+young+launching+streaming+service&atb=v1-1&ia=web

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I looked as well, but it's going to be hard to find with the current news headlines clogging search engines.

I honestly don't think it's far fetched that this is more to do with getting content back than making some point.

[Ben]

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I looked as well, but it's going to be hard to find with the current news headlines clogging search engines.

I honestly don't think it's far fetched that this is more to do with getting content back than making some point.

Well, I guess my issue is - no offense to zahc - that he is arguing the motive, not the act. The act is attempted censorship. Whether the motive is misguided politics or the motive is making money (I would argue that money is the worse motive) is somewhat irrelevant. He attempted to censor someone, which harms both that person and the public, and is an attack on a basic right.

Even if he was pulling  a Smollett, he caused other people to jump on his bandwagon and promote even more censorship. It's not legally criminal, but it's certainly morally criminal. Especially for an "artist" that built his name on free speech.

[Andiron]

Young is a nobody,  I don't see any attempt by him at yet another streaming service panning out.

[WLJ]

[MillCreek]

[Hawkmoon]

Oh, look -- another 60s flower child thinks she's still relevant:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/joni-mitchell-neil-young-spotify-protest/

:yawn:

Joni Mitchell was "big-ish" in my era, but she wasn't nearly as popular or as well-known as Joan Baez or Judy Collins. Haven't heard anything about her or thought about her for (probably literally) decades.

[lee n. field]

:yawn:

Joni Mitchell was "big-ish" in my era, but she wasn't nearly as popular or as well-known as Joan Baez or Judy Collins. Haven't heard anything about her or though about her for (probably literally) decades.

A name that pops up, every once in a while.  With not much mental content attached to it in my case.

Sic transit gloria mundi.

[JN01]

Neil Young- vocal talent equal to Bob Dylan, Janis Joplin, Johnny Cash, and just about any rapper. 

[gunsmith]

  that crowd of old hippies are a strange lot, I am good friends with an ex GF of Dylan, and a close friend of the late Tom Petty.
 All her friends are robotic supporters of whatever the woke voices are saying that day.
   They all virtue signal the same thing in order to show they belong to the in crowd.
 I thought it was awesome that Joe Rogan prevailed, even though I never listen/watch his stuff.

[bedlamite]

[Perd Hapley]

I thought it was awesome that Joe Rogan prevailed, even though I never listen/watch his stuff.

Same here. It's not over yet, though. Those who resist the woke often give in, if the fascists keep pressing the issue.

[Andiron]

Oh, look -- another 60s flower child thinks she's still relevant:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/joni-mitchell-neil-young-spotify-protest/

Now she can go help that other retard promote his new streaming service 

[RocketMan]

Same here. It's not over yet, though. Those who resist the woke often give in, if the fascists keep pressing the issue.

From what I've read, there are quite a few woke facists leaving Spotify.  Whether it will be enough to move Spotify management, I don't know.

[gunsmith]

 it could be that Young wanted to start his own streaming service, but i doubt it - maybe his wife wants to, she's probably more ambitious along business lines than he is.
 Neil Young is a true believer of woke propaganda.... I saw a video while looking up his music a few yrs back, at a concert he was ranting like a crazy homeless guy about some woke cause Du Jour, most of those dinosaur "rockstars" are - they became wealthy and drugged in their late teens and early 20's and never were told "no" and everyone tells them they're a genius.
  We here ( for instance ) are constantly challenged on our assertions and learn from the questions and rebuttals -   dinosaur "rockstars" never had to

[Ben]

I guess Joe Rogan "semi-apologized" to the public? It wasn't that bad from the "kneel down" perspective. He said he would try to have two different viewpoints when doing controversial subjects. I suppose that's fine.

Spotify though, is apparently going to start a twitter-like "misinformation database" and post warnings for podcasts relating non-Fauci approved information.

[Ben]

These people are morons. "You have a first amendment right except for A,B,C,D,E..." And talk about pushing misinformation - their chart only says "unvaccinated" and "vaccinated". No mention, once again, of natural immunity, which is certainly not included in their "unvaccinated" numbers.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1488192209086255121

[Ben]

Oh, and: People who listen to Joe Rogen aren't enlightened like we journalists are, so they are unable to make informed decisions...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1487860822684704778

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2022/01/31/brian-stelters-reliable-source-informs-him-that-joe-rogans-loyal-fans-arent-as-enlightened-as-his-critics-video/

[Bogie]

If they were smart, they'd never question authority.

[bedlamite]

[Ben]

From "The View":

"I mean I don't know that he can be reformed," ABC’s "The View" co-host Joy Behar said.

Meanwhile, on that show, they just a few days ago denied the holocaust.

So far, it has been mostly people I never heard of or people that I thought were dead leaving Spotify. I read this morning though, that Taylor Swift, Madonna, and a few other bigger names are looking to leave because Rogan's apology wasn't good enough. Another reason not to bend your knee and apologize to these asswipes.

[K Frame]

Neil and Joanie aren't exactly clean, as it is now coming out...

https://www.foxnews.com/media/neil-young-joni-mitchell-history-spotify-joe-rogan

[Perd Hapley]

Rogan should know by now that when you're called out by the Woke, apologizing is deadly. Even if you've done something that's actually wrong, apologizing to the fascists just legitimizes them. The latter is nearly always worse than what you're being criticized for.

And, no, I haven't Godwinned anything. https://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=66072.new#new