300k more Central American illegals on the way

[Balog]

This is a full on invasion, fueled by Cloward Piven dreams of amnesty.

hotair.com/archives/2014/07/07/report-300000-central-american-immigrants-heading-to-u-s/

[Balog]

First large scale epidemic that gets traced back to a bussed illegal (I'm betting on multi spectrum resistant TB) and things will get interesting.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Camp_of_the_Saints

[RoadKingLarry]

I'm still of the mind that this mess has the potential to turn into a watershed event.

[wmenorr67]

I'm waiting for Governors Perry and Brewer to mobilized the National Guard and put them on the border.  Could make things very interesting.

[Hawkmoon]

I'm waiting for Governors Perry and Brewer to mobilized the National Guard and put them on the border.  Could make things very interesting.

They should have done so months ago. One big problem: What would the rules of engagement be?

Question: Why is the invasion influx concentrated on Arizona and Texas? New Mexiso sits right between them, and Ciudad Juarez is very close to the Mexican side. Why aren't we seeing/hearing reports of hordes crossing into NM?

[wmenorr67]

They should have done so months ago. One big problem: What would the rules of engagement be?

Question: Why is the invasion influx concentrated on Arizona and Texas? New Mexiso sits right between them, and Ciudad Juarez is very close to the Mexican side. Why aren't we seeing/hearing reports of hordes crossing into NM?

Two main reasons, 1) shorter border and 2) not any large towns near the border.

As for the ROE maybe if you come across armed you are considered an invading army and light their asses up.  Maybe a few dead Mexican military members on our side of the border will be the wake up call all involved need.

[Ben]

And Obama, who is "handling immigration on my own" is heading to Texas. He will not be going to the border. He will be going there to fund raise. If I were "doing it on my own" I would want to go to the border so I could collect information on what I'm dealing with.

Or maybe instead of flooding border communities with busloads of illegal aliens, we could send them to DC, San Francisco, Seattle, Portland, and all the other cities with loudmouths telling these small border communities with strapped resources to "be humanitarians". Put your money and spare bedrooms where your mouths are, yo.

[KD5NRH]

I'm waiting for Governors Perry and Brewer to mobilized the National Guard and put them on the border.  Could make things very interesting.

Screw the National Guard.  Send TXDPS and give them more of these.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/07/04/have-you-seen-the-bulletproof-texas-gunboats-equipped-with-automatic-machine-guns-that-will-battle-drug-cartels-on-the-water/

[HankB]

And Obama, who is "handling immigration on my own" is heading to Texas.

He IS handling it on his own, I think it's going pretty much as he wants it to.

Just like the rise of ISIS in the Middle East; Obama probably views them as a second chance to further his agenda, now that his Muslim Brotherhood buddies have been dealt a setback in Egypt.

[Ron]

He IS handling it on his own, I think it's going pretty much as he wants it to.

Just like the rise of ISIS in the Middle East; Obama probably views them as a second chance to further his agenda, now that his Muslim Brotherhood buddies have been dealt a setback in Egypt.

None dare call it treason

[Sergeant Bob]

Screw the National Guard.  Send TXDPS and give them more of these.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/07/04/have-you-seen-the-bulletproof-texas-gunboats-equipped-with-automatic-machine-guns-that-will-battle-drug-cartels-on-the-water/

The $558,000 vessels are equipped with bullet-proof panels, 900-horsepower engines and fully automatic machine guns that can fire 900 rounds-per-minute. In other words, these gunboats aren’t just for show.

I gotta get me one of those! fully automatic machine guns

[Nick1911]

/shrug/

I assume that the country by in large wants this.  If we didn't, we would have fixed the border problem long ago.

Instead, we're at the point where if you oppose illegal immigration, you're declared a bigot.

[KD5NRH]

I gotta get me one of those! fully automatic machine guns

M240s, specifically.  IIRC, 5 or 6 per boat, pintle mounted.  Serious firepower compared to BP agents with pistols, and these are manned by DPS troopers with, most likely, their full tactical loadout ready at hand as well.  Wouldn't be surprised if they had a few other tricks stashed away too.  I think Texas has a fair handle on what we need to be ready for at the border.

[Balog]

/shrug/

I assume that the country by in large wants this.  If we didn't, we would have fixed the border problem long ago.

Instead, we're at the point where if you oppose illegal immigration, you're declared a bigot.

I don't think that's a true assumption, as it's based on the premise that the majority are aware of the problem. They have some vague notions of fairness and starving children and some dude down at Home Depot who wants to work hard at the jobs Americans won't do. Even in the border states a lot of folks are unaware of the severity of the problem.

[charby]

I don't think that's a true assumption, as it's based on the premise that the majority are aware of the problem. They have some vague notions of fairness and starving children and some dude down at Home Depot who wants to work hard at the jobs Americans won't do. Even in the border states a lot of folks are unaware of the severity of the problem.

I think people are aware of the situation, but we are also a nation of immigrants many who's ancestors came over without some sort of legal means of entry, i.e. pre Ellis Island days.

People also know that these illegals are coming from a very shitty environment and can sympathize with their plight to come to the US.

What would you do if you were born in one the Latin American countries and had the same education level as these illegals?

[onions!]

There's also the knowledge that you(I) can't do a thing to stop it.
I vote.So what.
I grouse with my friends.So what.
I read stuff on the internet.So what.

Then there's the someone else's problem aspect.The Southern border is a long ways away.My town has a LOT of Hispanics but the criminals that make the news are either a)teenagers of un-reported ethnicity or b)black.With the usual middle aged white pedophiles thrown in for good measure.If more Latino crime happened here or was reported then it'd get more traction.NIMBY.

[Balog]

I think people are aware of the situation, but we are also a nation of immigrants many who's ancestors came over without some sort of legal means of entry, i.e. pre Ellis Island days.

People also know that these illegals are coming from a very shitty environment and can sympathize with their plight to come to the US.

What would you do if you were born in one the Latin American countries and had the same education level as these illegals?

If you were an illiterate black teen from Detroit with no other options, would you take to armed robbery? Do you think the circumstances that drove you to it would matter to your victims?

People will protect their families, even in zero sum situations where that means others do without. Better that we should stay a first world nation than that the whole world gets dragged down to the level of the banana republics.

[wmenorr67]

There's also the knowledge that you(I) can't do a thing to stop it.
I vote.So what.
I grouse with my friends.So what.
I read stuff on the internet.So what.

Then there's the someone else's problem aspect.The Southern border is a long ways away.My town has a LOT of Hispanics but the criminals that make the news are either a)teenagers of un-reported ethnicity or b)black.With the usual middle aged white pedophiles thrown in for good measure.If more Latino crime happened here or was reported then it'd get more traction.NIMBY.

Around here when a news agency fails to mention the suspects race the first couple of times it is mentioned I automatically assume they are "black."  Any other time they immediately say if they were white, Hispanic or Asian and at least half the time the "Hispanic" is Native American.

[freakazoid]

If you were an illiterate black teen from Detroit with no other options, would you take to armed robbery? Do you think the circumstances that drove you to it would matter to your victims?

I don't think you can really compare armed robbery to people illigally entering a country to escape some shithole to protect them and their family.

[Balog]

I don't think you can really compare armed robbery to people illigally entering a country to escape some shithole to protect them and their family.

Why? What if they're robbing you to get bread for their family?

[brimic]

Why? What if they're robbing you to get bread for their family?

In essence they are, they are just using our federal government to do the robbing for them.

[onions!]

"Why? What if they're robbing you to get bread for their family?"

In essence they are, they are just using our federal government to do the robbing for them.

I'd rather have them prying at my doors to steal from me directly.At least then I'd have a chance to defend myself.

[charby]

If you were an illiterate black teen from Detroit with no other options, would you take to armed robbery? Do you think the circumstances that drove you to it would matter to your victims?

People will protect their families, even in zero sum situations where that means others do without. Better that we should stay a first world nation than that the whole world gets dragged down to the level of the banana republics.

Did you get upset when the Bosnian Refugees came here? Did you get upset with the Ugandans? How about the Hmongs?

[Balog]

Did you get upset when the Bosnian Refugees came here? Did you get upset with the Ugandans? How about the Hmongs?

Were tens of millions of them coming into the country illegally?

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

Around here when a news agency fails to mention the suspects race the first couple of times it is mentioned I automatically assume they are "black."  Any other time they immediately say if they were white, Hispanic or Asian and at least half the time the "Hispanic" is Native American.

Much truth!!!


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